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  • #31
    Originally posted by Bengalsrocket View Post
    Well you said "Ryan Grant after his first season" - 2008 wasn't Grant's first season :P
    Huh? After his first season would be 2008. He played exceptionally well in 2007, his first season. Afterwards, he's been subpar. During the same time that Grant has been subpar, Forte has been subpar.

    Anyway, confusing but I think you get my point now. :P

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    • #32
      Originally posted by S T R I N G View Post
      Huh? After his first season would be 2008. He played exceptionally well in 2007, his first season. Afterwards, he's been subpar. During the same time that Grant has been subpar, Forte has been subpar.

      Anyway, confusing but I think you get my point now. :P
      Yes, I get what you are you saying now. Just to clarify though, there is two different ways to read what you said, and since I can't read tone through text I guess I chose to read it one way, albeit arbitrarily.

      I'd like to add though, that I don't think Forte was sub par (That's 2 words by the way, not correcting you to be a jerk, just pointing out for future use) his rookie year. Considering the lack of talent around him, I think 1,200+ yards rushing and 400+ yards receiving is pretty decent for a rookie.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
        just imagine what he'd do with an actual offense around him.
        The only thing our offense does not have is a QB and a good gameplan.



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        • #34
          Originally posted by DoughBoy View Post
          The only thing our offense does not have is a QB and a good gameplan.
          Not a fan of Carrie Collins? What about your franchise QB in Young?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by DoughBoy View Post
            The only thing our offense does not have is a QB and a good gameplan.
            yeah, thats pretty much what I mean. I still think Kerry is good enough at qb, you just need more creativity on offense.

            You have a solid set of TEs, a good up and coming WR in Britt, one of the best olines in the league, and a duel threat in CJ.

            I just feel the offense can be used in a lot more ways, but its not.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Bengalsrocket View Post
              Yes, I get what you are you saying now. Just to clarify though, there is two different ways to read what you said, and since I can't read tone through text I guess I chose to read it one way, albeit arbitrarily.

              I'd like to add though, that I don't think Forte was sub par (That's 2 words by the way, not correcting you to be a jerk, just pointing out for future use) his rookie year. Considering the lack of talent around him, I think 1,200+ yards rushing and 400+ yards receiving is pretty decent for a rookie.
              I thought the exact same thing as you rocket...

              Forte's starting year was on par with... well. the other 3 running backs last year in johnson and slaton. on a poor offensive team... without that good of a passing threat...
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              • #37
                Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                yeah, thats pretty much what I mean. I still think Kerry is good enough at qb, you just need more creativity on offense.

                You have a solid set of TEs, a good up and coming WR in Britt, one of the best olines in the league, and a duel threat in CJ.

                I just feel the offense can be used in a lot more ways, but its not.
                Carrie is horrible! I hated him soo much when he was our QB. Mind you, he did have his moments, but I couldn't wait until he left. They need to develop Young faster. Both Matt L and Young are on the bench behind their respective veteran QBs.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Bengalsrocket View Post
                  Yes, I get what you are you saying now. Just to clarify though, there is two different ways to read what you said, and since I can't read tone through text I guess I chose to read it one way, albeit arbitrarily.

                  I'd like to add though, that I don't think Forte was sub par (That's 2 words by the way, not correcting you to be a jerk, just pointing out for future use) his rookie year. Considering the lack of talent around him, I think 1,200+ yards rushing and 400+ yards receiving is pretty decent for a rookie.
                  Actually, subpar can be one word.
                  http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/subpar

                  Forte was simply not efficient at getting those yards. Grant was the same way. Big yardage numbers but it took them both a ton of carries to get them.
                  Last edited by S T R I N G; 10-20-2009, 01:03 PM.

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                  • #39
                    I saw Fisher on NFL network when they were undefeated last year, and Rich Eisen asked the question "So what do you with Vince Young now?" or something like that, and Fisher responded with something along the lines of, "What if Vince and Collins were on the field? How would a defense handle that?".

                    Anyways, I thought it was an interesting idea. It doesn't necessarily have to be "wildcat", which seems to have a negative connotation on it now, but maybe just some ordinary formations that feature Vince in unusual spots to throw the defense off.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by S T R I N G View Post
                      Actually, subpar is one word.
                      http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/subpar

                      Forte was simply not efficient at getting those yards. Grant was the same way. Big yardage numbers but it took them both a ton of carries to get them.
                      3.4 ypc = 10 yards per 3 down.

                      I'll take that...
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by S T R I N G View Post
                        Actually, subpar is one word.
                        http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/subpar
                        Doh. Touche salesman.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Bengalsrocket View Post
                          Doh. Touche salesman.
                          It can be both ways. :P

                          subpar or sub par

                          One of those things...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Boss+Manning=Banning View Post
                            Carrie is horrible! I hated him soo much when he was our QB. Mind you, he did have his moments, but I couldn't wait until he left. They need to develop Young faster. Both Matt L and Young are on the bench behind their respective veteran QBs.
                            I didn't think he was THAT bad. I liked him as a bus driver.

                            he can't win you games, but he can ride that bus. good stopgap qb.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by S T R I N G View Post
                              What is going on with running games in the NFL this season? It seems like there are very few teams who are getting it done on the ground.

                              There have been a ton of guys who can't get their YPC over 4. Who do you guys think are some of the biggest disappointments?

                              Brandon Jacobs - 3.6
                              Knowshon Moreno - 3.8
                              Michael Turner - 3.5
                              Kevin Smith - 3.2
                              Ryan Grant - 3.8
                              Larry Johnson - 2.7
                              Matt Forte - 3.4
                              Julius Jones - 3.9
                              Steve Slaton - 3.0
                              Jamal Lewis - 3.5
                              Jerome Harrison - 3.7
                              Joseph Addai - 3.4
                              Willie Parker - 3.1
                              Glen Coffee - 2.6

                              And the list goes on...

                              Some guys that stand out to me are Forte, Turner, and Jacobs. These guys were supposed to tear it up this year but they've been downright awful.
                              I thought the running games of many teams were down this year. It's probably because defenses are getting faster with time.

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                              • #45
                                This happens every year. The running game becomes the focal point as the weather gets colder and the defenses become hobbled with injuries.

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