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  • #16
    Originally posted by DoughBoy View Post
    Triple option!!!1!!!!1!!!
    That's what my school runs lol :P

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    • #17
      I think David Lee deserves some, if not alot of the credit for the Wildcat being successful in Miami. They brought him in from Arkansas to implement that into their system and he's done an excellent job.





      Originally posted by Scott Wright
      I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Bengalsrocket View Post
        Can someone help me out here because I'm an X's and O's idiot. But isn't the point of the wildcat that you huddle up with your normal QB in the huddle so that the defense is unassuming?

        When Vince Young is in the huddle, opposing defenses know that he's going to line up at QB and that he has the ability to run with the ball and throw it.

        When Miami runs the wildcat, defenses believe that Pennington (or Henne now?) is going to line up in the QB spot, so they call their defensive play based on that, when in reality he is actually going to line up at WR.

        I thought the whole point was that the defense breaks the huddle then doesn't know how to respond to the new situation they've been approached by with the HB in the QB position and the QB in a WR position.

        If I'm even close to correct here, my next question is: how would Tennessee run the wildcat? Would they make VY line up as a receiver? Then who would they have taking the snaps?
        1) vince can run normal packages as well as the wildcat so the defenses wont have a clue either way and the best part is they wouldnt have to run any rinky dink "q.b." lines up at w.r. trash.

        2) miami is actually taking henne or whomever is at q.b. out of the game...saying you know we're running this, try to stop it....making it less of a gimmick/tricky package.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by slightlyabroncosfan View Post
          I think it's dumb when people say use an actual QB for the wildcat, because at that point it defeats the purpose. Vince should be used in a more spread out, college style offense for a while. Quick, easy throws, and if that isn't open he can take off.
          1) an actual q.b. disguises what is going on without the rinky dink "q.b. lined up at w.r." trash....puttin a more effective blocker or legitimate reciever on the field...how does that "defeat the purpose"?

          2) vince needs to get readjusted to the q.b. position all together... a concentrated and heavy dose of this package sprinkled with more and more normal packages seems like it would work.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by roscoesdad27 View Post
            1) an actual q.b. disguises what is going on without the rinky dink "q.b. lined up at w.r." trash....puttin a more effective blocker or legitimate reciever on the field...how does that "defeat the purpose"?

            2) vince needs to get readjusted to the q.b. position all together... a concentrated and heavy dose of this package sprinkled with more and more normal packages seems like it would work.
            When a QB is at WR, the defense has to adjust to it outside of the huddle. When they see Vince Young come on the field, they know what's coming.


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            • #21
              Jeff Fisher's too old school. I just don't see it happening.
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              • #22
                The whole advantage of the WC is that you have that extra blocker who neutralizes the defenses advantage, plus the misdirection can lead to big cutback lanes. This is not new, Atlanta used it with Vick in 2006, so did Tennessee. As BBD mentioned: Miami just uses it more than other teams.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
                  I think David Lee deserves some, if not alot of the credit for the Wildcat being successful in Miami. They brought him in from Arkansas to implement that into their system and he's done an excellent job.
                  Dan Henning ran direct snaps to the RB with success in the NFL before going to Miami

                  Lee deserves credit for making it a viable offense long term and introducing a passing element but it likely wouldnt have ever been considered without Henning there

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                  • #24
                    Just because Vince can scramble doesn't mean he's a good "wildcat" option.

                    The wildcat is successful where the guy can take it up the gut, take it outside, or possibly pass it. Vince isn't a threat up the middle. He's a finesse runner. He's quick, but not insanely fast. His style is best suited to dropping back to pass and then possibly running.

                    Besides, what is the "wildcat" in relation to a scrambling QB, anyway? If VY were playing, he'd be taking the direct snap anyway because he's a QB, and he'll inevitably run some times. Occasionally a designed run would be called. Isn't this already a "wildcat"?

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                    • #25
                      The wildcat with young at qb essentially turns into the zone-read....which he ran at texas.
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                      • #26
                        I dont think Vince would be effective running the wildcat, you want someone back there that has the treat of throwing the ball.

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                        • #27
                          *boom tish*

                          Seriously though, you want someone that is a very dangerous runner even if the defense knows he's running (like, say, a running back, or a very very fast runner at QB), who has the talent to make a simple read every now and then and pass it out (which, imo, most RBs could do - it's not like Ronnie Brown is overly special, it's the fact his coaches are pushing it). The slight possibility it is a pass only adds to the already dangerous runner's advantage.

                          The formation and fact the team is even running it also adds to the possibility a trick play is coming.

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                          • #28
                            It wouldn't be all that different from the Titans putting Young in and letting him take off now and again. The Wildcat isn't this magic entity some people seem to think it is. It would basically be spread option.

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