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  • #16
    Leinart is no more of a bust than Aaron Rodger

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    • #17
      Originally posted by fenikz View Post
      Leinart is no more of a bust than Aaron Rodger
      I agree and neither was Couch whose career was ruined by injuries or VY and his 19-11 career record. Who knows what Russell could be if the dysfunctional Oakland Raiders didn't draft him, I doubt any young QB could succeed there.
      And proud of it!!!

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      • #18
        I still like Smith and really, given their parts, I would love to see the 49ers open up and implement a lot more spread(there are tiny elements right now). I mean Smith is going to be more comfortable, Crabtree should be, Davis will be fine and it might take a bit of pressure off a line that isn't all that talented and that has struggled at times. Right now the 49ers would be the pro team that is probably best suited to trying the spread, it really is only a matter of time, especially given the success that New England and now Denver have had with their quasi-spread offenses.

        Leinart is no more of a bust than Aaron Rodger
        I'm a big Leinart fan, but that isn't true, Rodger's hadn't played at all, Leinart played and wasn't bad or good. I still think he ends up being good, you just can't have his skills and ability to read at the college level and not have it translate at all, he always looked fine to me out there and now gets the time he should to learn.


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        • #19
          I am amzaed at some of the people who continue to hold on to prized prospects even after they have failed miserably. Young is a bust, Russell is a bust, Couch is a bust, and OMG so is Alex Smith.

          Move on, they are done and at the very least they maybe able to slavage their career and become a Trent Dilfer, and even though Dilfer won the Super Bowl he was a massive bust. Let it go, they all have had their chance, 3 years and some and they still look like scared rookies with no clue on how to effectively win in the NFL. GAME OVER for these scrubs, they will never be Ryan, Flacco, Palmer, Manning, Eli, McNabb, Rivers, Rogers, Rothlisberger, Cutty, etc, and they were all picked in the same draft slots which ta duh! MEANS THEY ARE BUSTS!!!!!

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          • #20
            best qb in the league besides drew

            alex is my boy

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            • #21
              He obviously wasn't very good before but he looks to have matured. I hope he keeps it up for the rest of the year (and beyond). We'll see though.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by MarioPalmer View Post
                I am amzaed at some of the people who continue to hold on to prized prospects even after they have failed miserably. Young is a bust, Russell is a bust, Couch is a bust, and OMG so is Alex Smith.

                Move on, they are done and at the very least they maybe able to slavage their career and become a Trent Dilfer, and even though Dilfer won the Super Bowl he was a massive bust. Let it go, they all have had their chance, 3 years and some and they still look like scared rookies with no clue on how to effectively win in the NFL. GAME OVER for these scrubs, they will never be Ryan, Flacco, Palmer, Manning, Eli, McNabb, Rivers, Rogers, Rothlisberger, Cutty, etc, and they were all picked in the same draft slots which ta duh! MEANS THEY ARE BUSTS!!!!!
                It's the trend now, but historically QBs need time to develop. Aikman needed time, so did Elway, Staubach, Bradshaw, and Steve Young.

                Alex Smith may become something, but I doubt he'll ever be a star. And you just have mad hate for VY, let's see what he does the remainder of the season.
                Couch is out of the league so yes he qualifies as a bust.
                Leinart IMO does not and merely had the bad misfortune of being unable to outplay Kurt Warner for #1. If both QBs are on the Cards roster in 2010, I fully expect Leinart to be named the starter..

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by MarioPalmer View Post
                  I am amzaed at some of the people who continue to hold on to prized prospects even after they have failed miserably. Young is a bust, Russell is a bust, Couch is a bust, and OMG so is Alex Smith.

                  Move on, they are done and at the very least they maybe able to slavage their career and become a Trent Dilfer, and even though Dilfer won the Super Bowl he was a massive bust. Let it go, they all have had their chance, 3 years and some and they still look like scared rookies with no clue on how to effectively win in the NFL. GAME OVER for these scrubs, they will never be Ryan, Flacco, Palmer, Manning, Eli, McNabb, Rivers, Rogers, Rothlisberger, Cutty, etc, and they were all picked in the same draft slots which ta duh! MEANS THEY ARE BUSTS!!!!!
                  Rodgers also needed time to develop. I'm not counting Smith out just yet. He's in a great position to prove himself this year. Does that mean that he will play up to where he was drafted? Probably won't. But I'm not going to count him out on being an effective starting QB in this league.

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                  • #24
                    I for one havent seen Alex Smith 'fail miserably.' He had a bad first season as a rookie, had a better second season with some really nice wins, and was hurt in his third season and had a bad relationship with his head coach. He still has plenty of career life to get stable and develop.


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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by niel89 View Post
                      I for one havent seen Alex Smith 'fail miserably.' He had a bad first season as a rookie, had a better second season with some really nice wins, and was hurt in his third season and had a bad relationship with his head coach. He still has plenty of career life to get stable and develop.
                      I was about to say the same thing. I don't think Smith should be written off after one terribad season as a rookie, massive improvement in his second year, and then an injury. He is still only 25

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                      • #26
                        There's a lot of QBs who don't come out till they're 24 for him to be this developed and this experienced at 25 is a good thing for him.

                        If he becomes a Free Agent next year I'm sure there's going to be a rather sizeable market for a guy with experience in multiple systems, has started around 2 full seasons in 4 years can evade pass rushes and has no issues making any throw. Not to mention is becoming an effective QB.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BlindSite View Post
                          There's a lot of QBs who don't come out till they're 24 for him to be this developed and this experienced at 25 is a good thing for him.

                          If he becomes a Free Agent next year I'm sure there's going to be a rather sizeable market for a guy with experience in multiple systems, has started around 2 full seasons in 4 years can evade pass rushes and has no issues making any throw. Not to mention is becoming an effective QB.
                          He reworked his deal, he becomes a FA after the 2010 season. And the 49ers like what they see- if he continues his improved play they may not let Smith get to that point.Here's what Singletary had to say about him

                          Singletary also gave the single biggest endorsement of Smith since he's been in the league.

                          "It looks like he is developing very quickly into that quarterback that can be a special quarterback," Singletary said. "We are excited about that."
                          http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/...aycalling.html

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by MarioPalmer View Post
                            I am amzaed at some of the people who continue to hold on to prized prospects even after they have failed miserably. Young is a bust, Russell is a bust, Couch is a bust, and OMG so is Alex Smith.

                            Move on, they are done and at the very least they maybe able to slavage their career and become a Trent Dilfer, and even though Dilfer won the Super Bowl he was a massive bust. Let it go, they all have had their chance, 3 years and some and they still look like scared rookies with no clue on how to effectively win in the NFL. GAME OVER for these scrubs, they will never be Ryan, Flacco, Palmer, Manning, Eli, McNabb, Rivers, Rogers, Rothlisberger, Cutty, etc, and they were all picked in the same draft slots which ta duh! MEANS THEY ARE BUSTS!!!!!
                            Couch was not a bust. He, like David Carr and Smith (until now) was a result of the system he was placed in.

                            Smith is more in the situation Drew Brees was in than any of those other players. It's not that he's not getting it or improving, it's that Nolan threw him under the bus to try to save his job.

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