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  • #46
    True......

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    • #47
      Originally posted by PickedOffTwice View Post
      That would be hella unfair to Mangini as I am one of the few people who think that he did a pretty good job this year.
      He traded away Winslow/Edwards purged our roster and brought in a bunch of Jets and had us to the worst point we've ever been to since coming back.

      There are reasons why he doesn't deserve to be coaching next year, just because he managed to beat pittsburgh once doesn't make him a good coach.

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      • #48
        I had no problem with trading Winslow and Braylon (I loved both moves) but Mangini has been awful.


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        • #49
          Originally posted by DeepThreat View Post
          I had no problem with trading Winslow and Braylon (I loved both moves) but Mangini has been awful.
          You loved getting rid of Winslow and Edwards for...

          Massaquoi, Trusnik, Stuckie, 3rd round pick.

          Yeah, me too....
          Last edited by PoopSandwich; 12-19-2009, 01:17 PM.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by j05son View Post
            That's not all...The Miami Dolphins team plane is currently at Burke Airport. There's 2 rumors circulating that Parcells is interviewing or that Parcells is helping Lerner with the interview (the latter being more likely).



            Mangini has actually been getting a lot of support from his players lately.
            Just the other day Corey Williams was yelling "We want Holmgren! We want Holmgren!"

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            • #51
              I'm still unsure of what Holmgren's appeal is as a GM.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by WinslowBodden View Post
                You loved getting rid of Winslow and Edwards for...

                Massaquoi, Trusinski, Stuckie, 3rd round pick.

                Yeah, me too....
                Massaquoi is the truth!

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                • #53
                  The Browns traded damaged goods in Winslow for a guy who has looks very promising in Massaquoi who still has his entire career in front of him and doesn't have a geriatric knee, plus a 5th rounder this year. I'll take that.

                  The Browns traded Braylon Edwards to the Jets for what will undoubtedly be a 3rd and a 5th round pick, Jason Trusnik, and Chansi Stuckey. Braylon Edwards has been an abortion for the Jets and it would not surprise me to see the Jets let Edwards walk after this year. I'll take that.

                  The Browns traded down from 5, where there was no one for this team to pick, to obtain Alex Mack, who is a stud, David Veikune who is effectively having a red shirt year, Coye Francies, James Davis, Abram Elam, Kenyon Coleman, and Bret Ratliff. The Jets got Mark Sanchez and his colored wrist bands. I can live with that too.

                  This team was **** when Mangini got here. It's hardly surprising that trading whatever semblance of talent this team had and getting a ton of draft picks and rookies would still have the team as ****, but **** with a slightly brighter future.

                  Amazingly, the team has been playing inspired football lately. The problem is they just don't have the talent to win right now.

                  I have no problem with keeping Eric Mangini as the head coach whatsoever if that is the way they choose to go. He just needs talent to win and someone to pick it for him.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by WinslowBodden View Post
                    Yeah it'll be interesting to see how we transition into a 4-3 as well as who stays and who goes.

                    I'm anxious to see Corey Williams get a legit shot in the 4-3.
                    He already had one as a Green Bay Packer. 14 sacks in 2 seasons.

                    I think transitioning to the 4-3 would allow the team to draft and pick up free agents easier. I guess I just have to question the personel decisions because its taking so long for the Browns to make the transition to having a descent 3-4 defensive team. Meanwhile teams like the Cowboys, Dolphins, and Packers have shortened that transition period to 1-2 seasons.

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                    • #55
                      Browns traded Braylon Edwards to the Jets on basically a one year stint for 3rd and 5th round picks, Chansi Stuckey, and Jason Trusnik. Edwards is a free agent after the year and I bet the Jets don't resign him (the Browns certainly wouldn't have). Better than getting nothing and hanging onto him for the whole year.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by keylime_5 View Post
                        Browns traded Braylon Edwards to the Jets on basically a one year stint for 3rd and 5th round picks, Chansi Stuckey, and Jason Trusnik. Edwards is a free agent after the year and I bet the Jets don't resign him (the Browns certainly wouldn't have). Better than getting nothing and hanging onto him for the whole year.
                        Yeah but I would have rather rolled into this season trying to build on what we had rather than absolute destroying everything. Edwards and Winslow could have been awesome if they had a legit third target on the team (Maybe had we gone after Coles or drafted Crabtree?) I just don't like the approach Mangini took when he got here, and I think if he was willing to trade Edwards he should have done it before or during the draft while his stock was higher.

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                        • #57
                          Seahawks announce Mike Holmgren has declined the senior leadership position with team

                          http://twitter.com/dannyoneil/status/6847403097

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by cvv84 View Post
                            Seahawks announce Mike Holmgren has declined the senior leadership position with team

                            http://twitter.com/dannyoneil/status/6847403097
                            I think he wanted Tuna type control over everything there and the organization just didnt want to give it to him. Supposedly it wasnt a money issue.

                            All over town today you would think every problem with the Seahawks is directly related to Holmgren not being there. I'm sure it has nothing to do with their terrible defense, crappy O-line and lack of playmakers.

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                            • #59
                              Holmgren is going to run the Cleveland Browns, per Adam Schefter

                              http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/6905831736


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                              • #60
                                PFT is also confirming -

                                http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ns-the-browns/

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