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  • #31
    Champ is good for 20 INTs the next three years if healty.
    my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
    <TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
    <+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
    <+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
    Originally posted by Hermstheman83
    What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Splat420 View Post


      Norv has also never had a team like San Diego. I believe both the Redskins and Raiders were coming off 4-12 seasons when he took over. Plus, he built the offensive system that is currently used in San Diego, and Ted Cottrell helped create the defensive system that Wade used in Buffalo and then later used in San Diego. With Dielman and Shaun Phillips locked up, all this team needs is a good safety and another wide receiver, and it's time to kick it into high gear.

      Oh and my predictions:
      San Diego (12-4): They have a tougher schedule and their new starters on defense (Cooper, Wilhelm, and the rookie safety) will struggle early on.

      Denver (10-6): It depends on whether they can get a good pass rusher, and whether they can get a line that is better at protecting Cutler. They are always dangerous though and their addition of Graham and Henry has already improved the team.

      KC (8-8): Adding Donnie Edwards only marginally helped them. The guy is great in coverage but too much of ankle biter when it comes to tackles and stopping the run. Look for teams to run right at him and knock him over. KC is also getting old on both sides of the ball.

      Oakland (7-9): If they can improve their offense, then they will be the surprise of the league because their defense is incredible and very underrated.

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      • #33
        1.San Diego 12-4
        2.Denver 10-6
        3.Kansas city 9-7
        4.Oakland 6-10

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        • #34
          I think Denver is easily the team to beat. They've made the most headway in improving their roster. Adding Bly, Henry, Graham will all improve the team in their own separate ways. Also, in my personal opinion, Jay Cutler is on the precipice of a Rivers of '06, Palmer of '05, type ascension. Walker will get another year off that ACL injury. I also had the utmost confidence in Mike Shannahan, whom I think is a top-3 NFL Head Coach.

          San Diego I see them slipping a bit. They won't be bad, per say. They just won't be nearly as good. The coaching staff is a major downgrade. I also don't think it's reasonable to expect LaDainian Tomlinson to perform like he did last year, carrying the team on his back again. Historical precedent is against it.

          Kansas City is a team I am worried about. They seem to be using band-aids to stop a leak on a Dam. Eventually, all the serviceable veterans won't save the team from the depths of the league. Carl Peterson seems content to sign a few veteran free agents, keeping the team at a constant mediocre, but ticket selling, level. If I were an NFL GM, and I was running the team. I would blow up the roster, and go through a legitimate rebuilding period. The team has age problems at far too many positions. I was talking to one of my friends who is a Chiefs fan. He is disinterested in the draft this year, because the team has so many needs, with no solution in sight.

          Oakland is a team, that if they get a veteran QB, get the best out of their O-Line's misused talent, they could make the play-offs. I have been a proponent of them trading for Matt Schaub, as opposed to drafting Jamarcus Russell. The problem is, I don't trust Al Davis one bit, to turn around that team. Nor do I trust Lane Kiffin to be 'the guy' who gains enough say in organizational matters to make an impact, and be more than just a puppet leader. That defense, I cannot rave about it enough. It is fabulous. What a shame they're offense is as bad as they are good.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by JK17 View Post
            LJ is good but with 410+ carries on his wheels, how effective will he be next year?
            Ok this is getting really old in four years LJ has had 892 carries LT has had 2050 in six years and people want to say LJ is done? The guy will be 27 next year not 37 he is far from done the guy is in his prime.

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            • #36
              Broncos 10-6
              Chargers 9-7
              Chiefs 7-9
              Raiders 6-10


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              • #37
                Originally posted by Splat420 View Post
                Ok this is getting really old in four years LJ has had 892 carries LT has had 2050 in six years and people want to say LJ is done? The guy will be 27 next year not 37 he is far from done the guy is in his prime.
                I didn't say he wasn't in his prime, I said he just had 410+ carries last year. You don't think accumulating nearly half of your career carries in one year will somewhat hurt a player? Who knows how he will respond to it, I didn't say it was necesarily bad, but it could be trouble. That line continues to get worse to, and when you look at LJ's YPC its good, but its getting much worse as that line gets older, and not as strong.

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                • #38
                  i think it will be denver with out the homerism aside....the offence is only going to get better and with bates our D should finally be as good as advertised.....we will draft a Defencive player most likely DE.....but bly, henry, graham will only help out....and I have read reports about DJ williams how he played less then 70% of the snaps...and bates said having one of the most talented lbs not stay on the feild was dumb...so i expect him to play more which should help.....i can only see us getting better...and playing for darrent will help also

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by JK17 View Post
                    I didn't say he wasn't in his prime, I said he just had 410+ carries last year. You don't think accumulating nearly half of your career carries in one year will somewhat hurt a player? Who knows how he will respond to it, I didn't say it was necesarily bad, but it could be trouble. That line continues to get worse to, and when you look at LJ's YPC its good, but its getting much worse as that line gets older, and not as strong.
                    Do I think 410 carries will hurt him sure but IMO not for a few more years LJ wants to be the best ever will he be no but the guy is going to bring it for a few more years. If you watched the Chiefs all year you would know that LJ made a lot of yards on his own making something out of nothing we picked up a starter at LT if we draft a RT we will be fine on the line.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Shiver View Post
                      San Diego I see them slipping a bit. They won't be bad, per say. They just won't be nearly as good. The coaching staff is a major downgrade. I also don't think it's reasonable to expect LaDainian Tomlinson to perform like he did last year, carrying the team on his back again. Historical precedent is against it.

                      Personally, I don't see the coaching staff as a huge downgrade. Most people who don't follow the Chargers (idk how close you follow them, so im not trying to come off insulting here) don't realize that Marty was mainly a mediator between Wade and Cameron. In the playoff game, he didn't have his headset on for the majority of the game, with Cameron running the offense and Wade running the defense. By getting rid of Marty all you lose is the actualy overseer of the two. The hiring of Turner is essentially replacing Cam, with a better version of him, as Cam is essentially Norv Jr. To deal with the departure of Wade, which I feel was the biggest offseason loss, You have Cotrell, to keep continuity on the 3-4, and Rivera, to strenghten the defense overall. I see it as an even, if not almost beneficial swap for the Chargers, who can now expect an even more potent offesne with Rivers' full development, and a defense taht should remain on par.

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                      • #41
                        1. Denver 12-4
                        2. Chargers 11-5
                        3. Kansas 8-8
                        4. Oakland 4-12

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                        • #42
                          1. chargers 12-4
                          2. denver 9-7
                          3. Kansas 8-8
                          4. Oakland 6-10

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                          • #43
                            The Raiders will not win 5 games.

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                            • #44
                              The Raiders could have easily won 4 games this year [they pretty much gift wrapped home losses to Houston and Cleveland] and almost upset the Chargers in San Diego. They are better than 2-14.

                              Anyways....

                              San Diego - [11-5] You don't think they will be motivated after last year? Come on....Norv Turner isn't that bad of a coach....is he?!?

                              Denver - [10-6] Lots of big name acquisitions, but how will the egos mesh?

                              Oakland - [6-10] Take a big step forward and the defense is developing into a dominant unit. Unfortunately the offense is still in the bottom 10 of the league.

                              KC - [6-10] LJ runs enough for them to continue to be successful at Arrowhead, but they are on the way down. The rebuilding process starts in 2008.

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                              Originally posted by Scott Wright
                              Mr. Dukes comes from the Michael Irvin "talk loud and maybe people will think I know what I am talking about" school of football analysis.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Shiver View Post
                                San Diego I see them slipping a bit. They won't be bad, per say. They just won't be nearly as good. The coaching staff is a major downgrade. I also don't think it's reasonable to expect LaDainian Tomlinson to perform like he did last year, carrying the team on his back again. Historical precedent is against it.
                                I don't think that LT has to carry this team as much you seem to believe. In fact, one of the main reasons he had such a good year was because he had an improving oline and because Rivers was his QB as opposed to Brees. With Rivers there the 8-9 fronts that was in 2005 decreased greatly. With Dielman resigned and Rivers only getting better due to more reps with Vincent Jackson and Malcolm Floyd as well as our new receiver, I can see him having a much better year. Which in turn will open up more holes for LT.

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