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  • #61
    1. Saints 11-5
    2. Panthers 9-7
    3. Falcons 9-7
    4. Bucs 7-9
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Bradentonian View Post
      Gruden really likes McCown and the buzz last year before his injury was that he had a great chance to beat out Simms and start
      The buzz last year was that Gradkowski was the saviour.......

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Shiver View Post
        I like Gradkowski more than I like Simms. Gradkowksi did admirably with pretty poor supporting cast help, he did much more than Simms did in his playing time.
        You can't honestly believe that...

        Gradkowski doesn't have as strong an arm and he's never going to be a starter in the league. His mental processes while decent aren't up to the level of Simms. Look at what simms did against carolina before he got a busted spleen. He played out of his skin. Simms is a promising young QB, he just hasn't had the support from his offensive line and the bounce of the ball as far as luck goes with injuries. Simms is going to be a viable starter for years to come, next year will be the first of many, I bet the house on it.

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        • #64
          If you gave Bruce 5 tries to hit a wide open Galloway deep down the field, he would miss all 5. That is why he cannot be our starting QB again.

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          • #65
            Panthers 11-5
            Saints 10-6
            Falcons 7-9
            Bucs 6-10


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            • #66
              Originally posted by BlindSite View Post
              You can't honestly believe that...

              Gradkowski doesn't have as strong an arm and he's never going to be a starter in the league. His mental processes while decent aren't up to the level of Simms. Look at what simms did against carolina before he got a busted spleen. He played out of his skin. Simms is a promising young QB, he just hasn't had the support from his offensive line and the bounce of the ball as far as luck goes with injuries. Simms is going to be a viable starter for years to come, next year will be the first of many, I bet the house on it.
              I misrepresented my feelings, shoddy phrasing on my part. What I was attempting to get across was that Gradkowski clearly outplayed Simms in '06. I don't think you or Bucs fans are acknowledging just how poor Simms played last year. He was dreadful. He played alright in '05, nothing worth raving about, but solid. I doubt Simms sees the field unless Garcia gets hurt. If Simms were to actually beat out Garcia I would be stunned.
              Last edited by Shiver; 03-12-2007, 11:30 PM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Shiver View Post
                I misrepresented my feelings, shoddy phrasing on my part. What I was attempting to get across was that Gradkowski clearly outplayed Simms in '06. I don't think you or Bucs fans are acknowledging just how poor Simms played last year. He was dreadful. He played alright in '05, nothing worth raving about, but solid. I doubt Simms sees the field unless Garcia gets hurt. If Simms were to actually beat out Garcia I would be stunned.
                As long as the competition between Simms and Garcia is a fair competition, I don't care who starts. As long as the best man wins.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Shiver View Post
                  I misrepresented my feelings, shoddy phrasing on my part. What I was attempting to get across was that Gradkowski clearly outplayed Simms in '06. I don't think you or Bucs fans are acknowledging just how poor Simms played last year. He was dreadful. He played alright in '05, nothing worth raving about, but solid. I doubt Simms sees the field unless Garcia gets hurt. If Simms were to actually beat out Garcia I would be stunned.
                  Tim Rattay outperformed all of them, but you are right, Simms was dreadful last year, but I think he will come back to form this year. Like BlindSite, I'll bet the house on it. I really respect Simms more than ever after last season, because he showed his warrior toughness against the Panthers when he had an injured spleen and kept playing even though he could hardly put together a sentence in the huddle. He proceeded to drive us down the field and throw a TD pass, the same day he got his spleen removed!! Other than that, he had 2 very bad games behind a woeful offensive line, especially because Kenyatta Walker was still the starter at RT back then. If Kenyatta was blocking Mike Vick's backside, he would have some awful games too, and he would feel the pressure pretty bad.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by 24cadillac24 View Post
                    As long as the competition between Simms and Garcia is a fair competition, I don't care who starts. As long as the best man wins.
                    Well said, but I hope it's Simms because he's younger.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Shiver View Post
                      I misrepresented my feelings, shoddy phrasing on my part. What I was attempting to get across was that Gradkowski clearly outplayed Simms in '06. I don't think you or Bucs fans are acknowledging just how poor Simms played last year. He was dreadful. He played alright in '05, nothing worth raving about, but solid. I doubt Simms sees the field unless Garcia gets hurt. If Simms were to actually beat out Garcia I would be stunned.
                      Against baltimore and atlanta yes he was pretty average, but that's two very good pass rushes coming his way. Against Carolina he was playing well, the stats don't show what he did on the field.

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                      • #71
                        I guess if Simms can beat out Garcia, that will prove something to me. I doubt it will happen, but stranger things have.
                        Last edited by Shiver; 03-13-2007, 01:45 AM.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by etk View Post
                          Simms will be back to his 05 form
                          Unfortunately, expressing it as certainty doesn't make it true.

                          Frankly, I'd put all the teams around level right now, maybe with the Bucs a little behind. All the teams have some great players, but also significant holes. I also think that a lot of the Saints players were playing above their ability last year, and that they may be exposed in 2007. The Panthers still have a great nucleus of players, but a few questions marks. The Falcons also have a huge amount of quality on paper, and could succeed if Petrino's new staff creates a condusive environment. The Bucs finally have a decent O-line, but their defence is falling apart.

                          I could see any of the four teams coming first, and any of the teams coming last. It should be an exciting year.
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