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  • #16
    Originally posted by Bob Sanders Dreadlock View Post
    Not exactly someone deserving of their own thread with such big misses.
    QFT.

    This is a message board, after all. It's serious business. If you don't hit everyone of your predictions right, then you might as well just stop posting. That **** just ain't allowed to go down. If you ask me, I think if you miss 80%, then you should be banned. Don't wanna water down our message board community with those wastes of internets.

    Honestly though Dreadlock, did you look up his past threads or did you just latch onto them in your memory until the day you could call him out? I can't keep up with half of these, and they're all usually off the mark to some degree. It's actually impressive to get a few of these shots in the dark right (because they're all risky guesses - no one's coming out saying, "The Colts will make the Playoffs!" or some safe guess like that.), let alone your 50% number.

    C'mon man. Take a chill pill and layoff. You have an issue with some of the "Truths" (which is just SWDC's own little title for us when we make our prediction threads - not always supposed to be taken literally, but whatever), cool. Argue against them like you're doing with SJax. But don't attack PF28. That's just weak.
    Still Team The Ke$ha!!!

    [@TDWinstead]
    Originally posted by MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
    Damn Ke$ha is sexy.

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    • #17
      Anyway, back to the topic.


      I don't think there's any problem with giving Steven Jackson love, or even someone calling him a Top 5 fantasy back. Guys like CJ2K, AD, MoJo Drew, and Ray Rice (who may even be slightly over-rated *braces himself*) are probably the Top 4. But between SJax, Gore, and DeAngelo Williams, I don't see why it's wrong to put SJax ahead of them. Supporting cast wise, Williams isn't exactly in a great spot. Good OL, but no passing game means crowding in the box. Not to mention he'll have carries taken away by JStew. SJax won't be having carries taken away. I wouldn't exactly say SanFran's QB situation is intimidating towards defenses, although the OL should be better with their rookie additions (although, they are rookies - they could suck just like Bradford). Gore has injury concerns as well, and his backups are better and guys like Coffee could take carries and Anthony Dixon could take goalline carries.

      Jackson is the most talented of the three, and while his supporting cast is the worst, it was probably worst last season - yet he outproduced both of these guys with that worse OL and with guys like Keith Null at QB.

      I'll save my "run-blocking" rant for later, even though SJax is a prime example as to why I think it's an over-played card by fans. That and I think the Rams OL has more talent than people think with Jason Smith, Jacob Bell, Jason Brown, and now Rodger Saffold. But nevermind...
      Still Team The Ke$ha!!!

      [@TDWinstead]
      Originally posted by MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
      Damn Ke$ha is sexy.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by TitanHope View Post
        I'll save my "run-blocking" rant for later, even though SJax is a prime example as to why I think it's an over-played card by fans. That and I think the Rams OL has more talent than people think with Jason Smith, Jacob Bell, Jason Brown, and now Rodger Saffold. But nevermind...
        Feel free to share on the run-blocking thing.....I honestly think a great RB couldn't exist without at least an average o-line with the only main exception Barry Sanders, but his skill set helped him compensate.

        Someone like Jackson or LT early in his career are good examples of backs who crack 1000 yards even with lousy lines, but typically they need more carries to do it and take a hell of a beating in the process.

        Meanwhile, there are all kinds of examples of running backs who had no business rushing for 1000+ but got great help from o-lines. Pretty much any RB the Broncos used during Shanny's tenure can attest to that. Portis was probably the most talented of the bunch, but he did cool off quite a bit when he moved to Washington.

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        • #19
          Rumors abound that fox is 100% likely to be fired anyway.

          Besides, the defensive line isn't as simple as Peppers is being replaced by Everette Brown. Basically there's 4 positions and there'll be 7 guys rotating in and out based on package. It's not ideal, but the team was competitive last year with a similar system. 3 losses last year can be attributed to nothing else but Delhomme's failure as a passer, and I don't mean games that might have been won, I mean games that were being controlled by Carolina and were thrown away with turnovers.

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          • #20
            Totally agree on Portis. I've been saying since his first year in Washington that running him like Gibbs was would only end in a prematurely ended career as a starter. The dude in only 28 and we're talking about him having very little left in the tank. Maybe being back in the ZBS will help.

            I do love the Raider prediction, I just don't think it'll come true. I do think Oakland will get better, but I actually think San Diego will get better too. Oakland will finish second in that division, but the Chargers will still be the cream of that crop.

            If the Raiders had gotten McNabb, on the other hand...
            Last edited by Paranoidmoonduck; 07-22-2010, 07:46 PM.

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            • #21
              My opinion is that RB success is contingent on a few things (in order): 1) Their talent, 2) The talent of the opposing DEF, 3) How they fit the OL's blocking scheme/OL's talent, 4) Passing variable.


              So when guys come in going, "If the OL could run-block better like so-and-so's OL, he'd be just as good!" I always roll my eyes. I think RB success is mostly weighted on his own abilities. The rest are just slight-to-moderate boosters and impedements. That's why there are talented RB's who have great seasons behind terrible OL's. Would they have better seasons behind better OL's? Yes, but that's pointing out the obvious. But to me that's making excuses for a RB. CJ2k exploded behind the Titans' OL, so they get all kinds of credit for being good. Yet LenDale White struggled to maintain 4 YPC behind all of the same variable. So that's why I think it's primarily dependent on the RB. You're not gonna put an average RB behind the best OL in the league and make him a Pro Bowler.

              Also, I just don't think people can gauge run-blocking very well. It's usually other factors they base it off of like the OL pass-blocking abilities, the success of the RB, the team's overall record, etc. I don't think it's difficult for an OL to run-block like it is for one to pass-block either. There are guys who are great at it, but I don't think there are many OL's who can't run-block. You know?

              Shanny's ZBS is the exception to the rule. I think those are just matching up the right RB to that scheme. But if the RB doesn't fit, then he won't do well in that scheme. So again, it depends on the RB. He may be average, but he has a talent that allows him to cut and go which excels in that scheme. That's why I think scheme matters just as much, if not more, than the OL talent. Not to mention, if you give a RB enough carries, he'll get to 1,000+ yards. I don't really like the "He was a 1,000-yard back" staple much anyways. It's just not a incredible goal to me. Just above average in my view.


              I dunno. Typing that all out just sounds redundant. That true for anyone else?
              Still Team The Ke$ha!!!

              [@TDWinstead]
              Originally posted by MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
              Damn Ke$ha is sexy.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Paranoidmoonduck View Post
                Totally agree on Portis. I've been saying since his first year in Washington that running like Gibbs was would only end in a prematurely ended career as a starter. The dude in only 28 and we're talking about him having very little left in the tank. Maybe being back inthe ZBS will help.

                I do love the Raider prediction, I just don't think it'll come true. I do think Oakland will get better, but I actually think San Diego will get better too. Oakland will finish second in that division, but the Chargers will still be the cream of that crop.

                If the Raiders had gotten McNabb, on the other hand...
                SD's schedule is very easy to start with this year, I think you'd have to be looking at a lot of injuries to see the Raiders overtake them. Depending on Campbell it wouldn't surprise me to see them 8-8 or even vying for a wild card spot though.

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                • #23
                  Good work by the Fresh Prince here, even though I don't agree with San Diego falling apart.

                  But you have to tip your cap to a man with a pair big enough to pick the Raidaz to win that division. They did win a few nice games late last year against good teams. And they did have horrible QB play, which will be much better with the pedestrian (as opposed to pathetic) Jason Campbell.

                  But to dismiss the Chargers here in July I find is silly because A) McNeil and Jackson both do not want to holdout. We've seen tons of guys unhappy with their situations in spring and summertimes, only to be back with their teams and all forgotten by September.

                  Also, Vincent Jackson is not Andre Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald here catching 100 balls a year. He's also not a burner.

                  PF is correct about the overrated Packers defense.
                  Brett Farve killed this defense twice last year, not sacked once and not picked off once.
                  Roethlisberger set a Steelers all-time record with 520 yards passing.
                  And you all witnessed Kurt Warner going 22/23 between the hashmarks in slicing this defense like a Ginsu.
                  Last I checked, the team is bringing back the exact same OLBs, as well as CBs who we hope will heal up and play better.

                  Interesting stat highlighting this defense and offense: Last year, the Packers were undefeated in games in which they allowed fewer than 30 points.
                  One more gloomy note: Turnovers. Last year, this defense lived on turnovers. That could be a problem because you can't rely on them week-in, week-out. Against good offenses, they didn't get them and as a result, got lit up like the 4th of July skies.

                  The only decent offenses that the Packers shut down were Dallas and Baltimore, which I find ironic because that's who PF picks in the Super Bowl.

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                  • #24
                    Packers are Peter King's Favourites? Hell yea! U will end with about .500 and miss it! Peter King is never fails (or always fails?)

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                    • #25
                      Prince you are the most pessimistic person on this forum. Our defense definitely had its trouble when it mattered most but it was the 1st year in the new system. Hell I thought our defense would be much much worse then it was.The stats do lie but most games we did pretty well IMO. The games we got raped everyone agreed who watched the game that Dom Capers got away from what was working so well. Sending pressure. Our secondary was paper thin almost the entire year. We definitely could have used some help at CB through free agency or the draft. But here is to hoping Pat Lee, Brandon Underwood, Josh Bell or someone can step up. We also will no longer have to deal with Kampman playing out of position anymore, hardly making an impact. Not to mention impact players at OLB in a 3-4 are what really matter. Im not saying we will be any better but we have alot of young guys and a year under our belt so theres hope for improvement.

                      Plus who needs a defense when our offense will be amazing. Our O-line definitely is shaky but Rodgers has proven how good he can be without one. When they actually block he is almost unstoppable. Being called superbowl contenders is a bit early but I definitely think there is hope that we could be that team. There is just a lot of ifs.

                      Actually we did intercept Farve just got called back on some ********. It wasn't important tho it just allowed the Vikings to get a TD and go up 7 before halftime.
                      2:20 watch..

                      Sick Sig By BoneKrusher

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Bob Sanders Dreadlock View Post
                        True but it was a fumble on the offense that cost them the game. What can constructively said about picking the browns to win the AFC North? Not exactly someone deserving of their own thread with such big misses.
                        Browns are gonna win the super bowl and go to cedar point instead of disney land and shortly thereafter take their talents to south beach

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                        • #27
                          Is Al Harris going to be okay? If not, who do they have? I don't know about the progress Patrick Lee has made, It also depends on if teams adjust to blocking Clay Matthews. The offense will be there, I'm not sure how the defense will do, now that everyone has seen it.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by WinslowBodden View Post
                            Browns are gonna win the super bowl and go to cedar point instead of disney land and shortly thereafter take their talents to south beach
                            Kings Island FTW
                            Sam Bradford will be a bust- 2/24/2010

                            Colts Cardinals Bulls Hurricanes

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by dj825 View Post
                              John Fox has gotten Carolina as far as he can take them and hasnt been able to put up back to back winning seasons yet and on top of that stuck with jake Delhomme for 3 or 4 seasons too long which is why he will hopefully be fired after this season or resigns not because of the D Line. That said i do agree the line will be a killer for the Panthers Defense and im just hoping at least one of those guys will flash because right now Tyler Brayton is probably our best D Lineman and although Brayton did fairly well the past few seasons alot of that is because of Peppers who as you stated is no longer there. All of this however was all brought on by John Foxes and Marty Hurneys refusal to really play anyone or even draft anyone worth a crap for the line followed by his sudden urge to start everyone who hasnt been playing and cut all of the veterans (Steve Smith is now the only player over 30 besides the Kicker and Punter). That urge was brought on because Fox was finally starting to feel pressure from the FO about not developing the younger talent on the team and the fact that he wasnt resigned because of his lackluster seasons and embarrassing playoff losses to the Seahawks and most recently jakes 5 turnover performance against the Cardinals so he decided to finally do a mass exodus of all the vets and is now hes hoping some of the youngers guys flash and he'll be able to save face put together a decent season and maybe get a HC job somewhere else...Fox did build this team from the ground up and took a 1-15 Team to a Superbowl 2 years later and lost barely and took them to the NFC championship game a few years later (the aforementioned embarrassing loss to the Seahawks) but as i said has been unable to even string together back to back winning seasons. I like John Fox and i appreciate what he has done for Carolina but its time to move on.

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                              • #30
                                PF, I want to see some admission that you were dead wrong about the Cowboys last year. :D

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