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  • #16
    They struck gold when they drafted Dumervil, so it'd be foolish to not keep him on the team.

    I was hoping they let him get away.

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    • #17
      sigh

      If only Logan Mankins could be so calm, cool, and professional.


      Smart move by the Broncos locking up a stud. He will have more seasons like last year, imo. He should still improve and, as mentioned, the line can only improve around him.

      Sig img shamelessly stolen from teh interwebs

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      • #18
        great news

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        • #19
          I love when people still call Doom small now that hes playing OLB. Hes the same size as James Harrison, not much smaller than Lamarr Woodley.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Vox Populi View Post
            I love when people still call Doom small now that hes playing OLB. Hes the same size as James Harrison, not much smaller than Lamarr Woodley.
            Well talking height he's still quite small for a 3-4 OLB, but the correct term would be short. Weight wise he's still on the smaller side, but it's not severely undersized or anything. Especially when you factor those two together he's big for his height. I guess what I'm saying is he's not real small, but I can still see why people would say that.

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            • #21
              Yeah, James Harrison and Elvis Dumervil are pretty short for 3-4 OLB's. It's not bad, though, it can definitey work to their advantage. Monsters like Bryant McKinnie and Max Starks and Jared Gaither will and definintely do struggle with those guys when they get low. There's no way that a guy that is eight inches taller than them will be able to drop as low as they do.

              Props to clover_jeez!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by GB12 View Post
                Well talking height he's still quite small for a 3-4 OLB, but the correct term would be short. Weight wise he's still on the smaller side, but it's not severely undersized or anything. Especially when you factor those two together he's big for his height. I guess what I'm saying is he's not real small, but I can still see why people would say that.
                My point was more that of the top 3-4 OLB's, other than Ware right now most of them are short and stocky and Doom is only fractions of an inch shorter than other top guys like Harrison and Woodley.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Vox Populi View Post
                  My point was more that of the top 3-4 OLB's, other than Ware right now most of them are short and stocky and Doom is only fractions of an inch shorter than other top guys like Harrison and Woodley.
                  Woodley is 3 inches taller at 6'2". Harrison is the only one that really compares with Dumerville.

                  Here are the top 15 OLBs in terms of sacks from last year. Dumerville is at least 4 inches shorter than all but two.

                  Dumerville - 5'11"
                  Harrison - 6'
                  Cain - 6'2"
                  Berry - 6'3"
                  Wimbley - 6'3"
                  Orakpo - 6'3"
                  Porter - 6'3"
                  Hali - 6'3"
                  Phillips - 6'3"
                  Matthews - 6'3"
                  Ware - 6'4"
                  Pace - 6'4"
                  Lawson - 6'5"
                  Scott - 6'5"
                  Taylor - 6'6"

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                  • #24
                    people act like the guy has come out of nowhere and he dosent have a high ceiling. the dude posted 17 sacks his senior year of college too.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Jimmy View Post
                      people act like the guy has come out of nowhere and he dosent have a high ceiling. the dude posted 17 sacks his senior year of college too.
                      For some reason i always thought he got 20 sacks his senior year. Makes no difference really, but i always thought he'd be a beast inthe NFL

                      RIP ST

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Jimmy View Post
                        people act like the guy has come out of nowhere and he dosent have a high ceiling. the dude posted 17 sacks his senior year of college too.
                        Most fans only know numbers. Doom spent a few years on a complete bag-o-**** d-line and stats suffered accordingly. What most fans dont know is that he was the closest Bronco to the QB on almost every passing down that he was in on.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by njx9
                          this is why i love the guy. best motor i've ever seen for a guy who was too small, to slow, and all around not good enough coming out.
                          guys with a high motor are hard to not like. everyone, especially me, loves a player who gives it his all on every down.

                          Pick the Winners Champion 2008 | 2011

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by njx9
                            Originally posted by Timbathia View Post
                            Most fans only know numbers. Doom spent a few years on a complete bag-o-**** d-line and stats suffered accordingly. What most fans dont know is that he was the closest Bronco to the QB on almost every passing down that he was in on.
                            this is why i love the guy. best motor i've ever seen for a guy who was too small, to slow, and all around not good enough coming out.
                            I think everybody loves the way Dumervil plays, but that doesn't change the fact that they overpaid for him. Most people just seem to assume that he'll automatically mature into a complete OLB because "last year was his first in the 3-4 and he can only get better at setting the edge or dropping back into coverage.". Well, there are plenty of examples of players that excelled their first year and then dropped off the face of the earth. Kamerion Wimbley comes to mind. Also, I think that Mike Nolan was a big part of his production last year. I know that Dumervil has been productive his entire career, but just can't see him playing as well as this contract asks him to. But we'll see.. I'll either look like a complete d-bag or a ******* genius in a couple of years.

                            Originally posted by ElectricEye
                            I'm a whiny little kunt. Feel sorry for me as I go masturbate to a picture of my mom dressed as a teletubby.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Razor View Post
                              I think everybody loves the way Dumervil plays, but that doesn't change the fact that they overpaid for him. Most people just seem to assume that he'll automatically mature into a complete OLB because "last year was his first in the 3-4 and he can only get better at setting the edge or dropping back into coverage.". Well, there are plenty of examples of players that excelled their first year and then dropped off the face of the earth. Kamerion Wimbley comes to mind. Also, I think that Mike Nolan was a big part of his production last year. I know that Dumervil has been productive his entire career, but just can't see him playing as well as this contract asks him to. But we'll see.. I'll either look like a complete d-bag or a ******* genius in a couple of years.
                              Doom is the ONLY player on the Broncos def that opposing offensive coordinators have to fear, or alter their game plan for. That used to be Champ, but not anymore. Elite defensive backs or pass-rushers limit what an offense can do, or would like to do. If the Broncos didnt pay him, and he left, this defense would be significantly worse. Buying in a free agent of his caliber costs just as much as resigning him to this contract, and thats if you can convince them to come to Denver. Add to the fact that he is a stand-up guys and someone for the younger players to model themselves on, and I completely disagree that the Broncos overpaid.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Razor View Post
                                I think everybody loves the way Dumervil plays, but that doesn't change the fact that they overpaid for him. Most people just seem to assume that he'll automatically mature into a complete OLB because "last year was his first in the 3-4 and he can only get better at setting the edge or dropping back into coverage.". Well, there are plenty of examples of players that excelled their first year and then dropped off the face of the earth. Kamerion Wimbley comes to mind. Also, I think that Mike Nolan was a big part of his production last year. I know that Dumervil has been productive his entire career, but just can't see him playing as well as this contract asks him to. But we'll see.. I'll either look like a complete d-bag or a ******* genius in a couple of years.
                                Eh. Comparing him to Wimbley is weak. First off, Dumervil has been productive even before this switch and that was as a 43 defensive end, a tougher position for him due to his size and second off, Dumervil was many multitudes better than Wimbley was his rookie year (and this is coming from a Raider fan who hopes Wimbley can produce this season).

                                Mike Nolan was a big part the Broncos' quick assimilation of the 34 defense, but don't credit him for Dumervil. Nolan doesn't have a history of making pass rusher more productive (Lawson peaked at what, 3 sacks under Nolan?) and Dumervil was around the quarterback constantly last season. It's his motor that made those 17 sacks, not some pixie dust from Nolan.

                                Did Denver overpay? Perhaps, but in a capless year that criticism carries almost no meaning whatsoever. Would not paying him and letting him walk (to get the same amount of money elsewhere) have been a better decision? **** no.
                                Last edited by Paranoidmoonduck; 07-25-2010, 07:26 PM.

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