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  • #46
    Originally posted by Rosebud View Post
    Agreed.



    That's not true, the MIKE for us has to make all of the calls, all of the adjustments, the audibles, the MIKE has to read the field and the team. While Goff is a smart guy and has supposedly been doing well at learning all of that it doesn't hurt to have someone with as much experience as KB has helping him improve at reading the game. Plus I just think KB is too washed up for us to be depending on him to be the rock in the middle of our D, especially coming off of the torn ACL.
    The only way he's not our starting MIKE is if he reinjures himself, or sucks so hard that TC is forced to bench him.

    Goff doesn't need anymore mentoring. He learned under Pierce for 2 years now, and he's an LB. They don't need mentoring. If he doesn't get it by now, he won't get it next year.

    I like Goff, I think he should be given a chance. I don't get why we made this move. Even if it works out, what does it accomplish? We go into the next offseason still wondering if we have our future MIKE in house or if we need a replacement.

    Originally posted by Boss+Manning=Banning View Post
    Or they felt like he needed more time. Implement a new system, and get a veteran to come in, who was proven, and in the meantime, take the pressure off of the mike backer. Also, no Goff doesn't have to set the line, and make the calls like he would have. Let a veteran who was proven do that.
    He had 2 years under Pierce to learn from a veteran. He had plenty of time to learn how to do things. This isn't a qb, or a DT or a WR. This is a linebacker, he shouldn't need this much time to get adjusted.

    Let's just be honest with ourselves and call a spade a spade. It is what it is guys, not every move we make is a great move. And not every pick that we make in the draft is gonna pan out.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
      The only way he's not our starting MIKE is if he reinjures himself, or sucks so hard that TC is forced to bench him.

      Goff doesn't need anymore mentoring. He learned under Pierce for 2 years now, and he's an LB. They don't need mentoring. If he doesn't get it by now, he won't get it next year.

      I like Goff, I think he should be given a chance. I don't get why we made this move. Even if it works out, what does it accomplish? We go into the next offseason still wondering if we have our future MIKE in house or if we need a replacement.



      He had 2 years under Pierce to learn from a veteran. He had plenty of time to learn how to do things. This isn't a qb, or a DT or a WR. This is a linebacker, he shouldn't need this much time to get adjusted.

      Let's just be honest with ourselves and call a spade a spade. It is what it is guys, not every move we make is a great move. And not every pick that we make in the draft is gonna pan out.

      Q: Is it any different to be in the middle in the base defense on say first and 10 versus being in their on a passing down?

      A: Yeah, absolutely, but that's based on the formations and the offensive set. My film study will help me out a lot when it comes to that. You know, I take on guards and I take on centers. A lot of times when I was at Tennessee, I'm getting blocked by a guard and a center. My work is always cut out for me. I don't think it'll be any different here, and I haven't really even thought twice about it. It was not a matter of me getting confidence to play the middle. Confidence has never been an issue with me when it comes to this game. I think that it's just going to be fun and I'm planning on making a lot of plays. I know you can make a lot of plays from that spot, and Antonio made a lot of plays from that spot. If that's the spot I'm playing, I expect nothing less from myself.

      That confidence and experience is what the staff is looking for. And two years under AP back then means nothing now. New system, new coach, new terminology. Everything changes. A veteran like Bullock can easily adjust and can make all the calls with no hesitation. Goeff may have the talent to play it, but I'd rather have him eased into this specific system, and learn behind Bullock for a year, and then play it. Who knows if he does well, he can outplay him.



      Q: What about calling the plays in the huddle, making the adjustments before the snap? I'm guessing you did that in Tennessee?

      A: Since I've been a starter in this league, I've been the signal caller. I've been the signal caller since my sophomore year in college, and that's what I do. It might be a little unnatural for me not to do that, but if I'm the one with the ear piece, then that's fine, too. Yeah, I am very comfortable with that. That's what I do, and I have to be on the same page as the defensive coordinator. The way I was coached in Tennessee, by Dante Cunningham when I was young, he coached all the linebackers like our meeting rooms were coaching seminars. He coached us in depth and taught us to be in tune with the defensive coordinator. At the same time, the defensive coordinator isn't playing, he is making the calls so you have to anticipate certain things. The mental part of my game will come in a lot, and that will benefit this team a lot.
      That's a key component in having him here. Bullock was the Titans version of AP for their LB corps. Now for us he can step in, learn with confidence, and come in and call the signals and set the front.

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      • #48
        He will not do much.
        I'm a Bad Boy baby.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Boss+Manning=Banning View Post
          That confidence and experience is what the staff is looking for. And two years under AP back then means nothing now. New system, new coach, new terminology. Everything changes. A veteran like Bullock can easily adjust and can make all the calls with no hesitation. Goeff may have the talent to play it, but I'd rather have him eased into this specific system, and learn behind Bullock for a year, and then play it. Who knows if he does well, he can outplay him.





          That's a key component in having him here. Bullock was the Titans version of AP for their LB corps. Now for us he can step in, learn with confidence, and come in and call the signals and set the front.
          Honestly, I could care less about Q and As in the offseason. They're all hype just to get us fans riled up over nothing. It's not the actual answers I pay attention too, I like reading in between the lines with them.

          Bc first and foremost, they're all fluff. They just say what fans want to hear. Especially coordinators. You hear every coordinator say in the offseason that we want to "be aggressive" and "get after the ball carrier/qb" and all those cliche terms. Nobody is gonna say "yeah we're gonna rush 4 and sit back, bc we like being passive"

          Instead they mask their true intentions with generic cliche terms that spark excitement from fans.

          And secondly, Goff was a MIKE for years. He was a MIKE in college and now a MIKE in the NFL for 2 years. He's made calls his whole career. I don't buy that he can't make calls. One of his strengths coming out of college was his intelligence and ability to line guys up and read plays.

          The reason why he's not calling plays is bc he's so quiet and mild mannered that he doesn't win over the huddle. Not bc he lacks the ability to do it.

          He just needs a chance. I'm not buying the Bulluck kool aid. I'll believe it when I see it.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
            Honestly, I could care less about Q and As in the offseason. They're all hype just to get us fans riled up over nothing. It's not the actual answers I pay attention too, I like reading in between the lines with them.

            Bc first and foremost, they're all fluff. They just say what fans want to hear. Especially coordinators. You hear every coordinator say in the offseason that we want to "be aggressive" and "get after the ball carrier/qb" and all those cliche terms. Nobody is gonna say "yeah we're gonna rush 4 and sit back, bc we like being passive"

            Instead they mask their true intentions with generic cliche terms that spark excitement from fans.

            And secondly, Goff was a MIKE for years. He was a MIKE in college and now a MIKE in the NFL for 2 years. He's made calls his whole career. I don't buy that he can't make calls. One of his strengths coming out of college was his intelligence and ability to line guys up and read plays.

            The reason why he's not calling plays is bc he's so quiet and mild mannered that he doesn't win over the huddle. Not bc he lacks the ability to do it.

            He just needs a chance. I'm not buying the Bulluck kool aid. I'll believe it when I see it.


            I like those transcripts. They are a good way to get to know a player. PLayers are usually honest in answering them.


            Making calls in college vs the pros is a big difference. If you use that logic, then why do we have busts? Players play football in college and do well, so why cant they do it in the pros? After all the basics of the sport is the same. It's not like a 10 yard curl magically changes to a super duper curl.

            I don't buy that. Quiet and mild mannered doesn't effect one's ability to make calls when the coaches want u to do it. Eli is quiet and mild mannered, do we see the WR calling the plays? No of course not, that's Eli's job.

            The Mike's job is to make the calls and set the front. Being mild mannered as nothing to do with it. If it's your job you do it. If you can't do it, and do it well within seconds. Then that's a huge problem. This system is new, so if he is struggling then I can see why they have a stop gap like Bullock coming in, especially if he did it well, at a high level, in the league for years. Learn from someone like Bullock, with no huge pressure to start. And then we re-evaluate after the year and go from there. We see how much each player has progressed or regressed then.

            But that's just us talking. It really is pointless if we just can't ask Fewell or Coughlin and ask what the issue was. I would be the first to ask Gilbride about Moss, and what the deal with him is.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
              The only way he's not our starting MIKE is if he reinjures himself, or sucks so hard that TC is forced to bench him.

              Goff doesn't need anymore mentoring. He learned under Pierce for 2 years now, and he's an LB. They don't need mentoring. If he doesn't get it by now, he won't get it next year.

              I like Goff, I think he should be given a chance. I don't get why we made this move. Even if it works out, what does it accomplish? We go into the next offseason still wondering if we have our future MIKE in house or if we need a replacement.
              Has that been announced? If it has I guess I'm wrong, but honestly I think Goff will look better than Bulluck in TC and earn the starting spot. In which case Bulluck is just there to help him keep developing while coming on passing downs and backing up Boley. I think Goff's ready to go, we just like having a vet there to back him up/give him advice as he needs it.

              BK

              Originally posted by AcheTen
              JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
              Originally posted by abaddon41_80
              Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
              Originally posted by JBCX
              Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Boss+Manning=Banning View Post
                I like those transcripts. They are a good way to get to know a player. PLayers are usually honest in answering them.


                Making calls in college vs the pros is a big difference. If you use that logic, then why do we have busts? Players play football in college and do well, so why cant they do it in the pros? After all the basics of the sport is the same. It's not like a 10 yard curl magically changes to a super duper curl.

                I don't buy that. Quiet and mild mannered doesn't effect one's ability to make calls when the coaches want u to do it. Eli is quiet and mild mannered, do we see the WR calling the plays? No of course not, that's Eli's job.

                The Mike's job is to make the calls and set the front. Being mild mannered as nothing to do with it. If it's your job you do it. If you can't do it, and do it well within seconds. Then that's a huge problem. This system is new, so if he is struggling then I can see why they have a stop gap like Bullock coming in, especially if he did it well, at a high level, in the league for years. Learn from someone like Bullock, with no huge pressure to start. And then we re-evaluate after the year and go from there. We see how much each player has progressed or regressed then.

                But that's just us talking. It really is pointless if we just can't ask Fewell or Coughlin and ask what the issue was. I would be the first to ask Gilbride about Moss, and what the deal with him is.
                Remember, a lot of people knocked Eli for being quiet for awhile too, it wasn't until he was given a chance to prove his way works that people started to buy into it.

                Goff just needs a chance. This signing makes him rot on the bench even longer. The guy doesn't need any more tutoring. He needs playing time. If playing MIKE was THAT hard, we wouldn't have so many MIKEs transition with ease into the NFL the way we do.

                RB and LB are the 2 easiest transitions to the NFL. We're way overblowing the mental aspect of the position. It's not rocket science. Rookie MIKEs step in and contribute right away all the time.

                And its not like Goff is stupid. He's widely considered as a very bright young man. Picking up the defense is not an issue. He knows the defense. In fact, he knows it better than Bulluck, bc he had all of OTAs to soak it in.

                I'm just not buying all the Bulluck hype. I'll believe it when I see it.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                  Remember, a lot of people knocked Eli for being quiet for awhile too, it wasn't until he was given a chance to prove his way works that people started to buy into it.

                  Goff just needs a chance. This signing makes him rot on the bench even longer. The guy doesn't need any more tutoring. He needs playing time. If playing MIKE was THAT hard, we wouldn't have so many MIKEs transition with ease into the NFL the way we do.

                  RB and LB are the 2 easiest transitions to the NFL. We're way overblowing the mental aspect of the position. It's not rocket science. Rookie MIKEs step in and contribute right away all the time.

                  And its not like Goff is stupid. He's widely considered as a very bright young man. Picking up the defense is not an issue. He knows the defense. In fact, he knows it better than Bulluck, bc he had all of OTAs to soak it in.

                  I'm just not buying all the Bulluck hype. I'll believe it when I see it.
                  Yeah well not just stating facts that are given. I am indifferent of the signing. I don't mind playing younger players and see what we have. But this signing means that the staff might think otherwise.

                  LB and RB, just like any position are not easy positions. It all depends on what LB position you play and what your responsible for. Also, like anything else the people that succeed are the ones that study and attend their meetings.

                  RBs have it easier, that's true, but specific stuff can be tricky. It may not be rocket science for you and I, but if you are stupid, but can run a 4.3 then the concept of blitz protecting at this level may be hard to digest. Remember a lot of these guys are not smart. On top of it some may be passing classes just because they are football players. Probably happened in HS, then in college, and now in the NFL, there is no passing. It's a job, and while the coaches are there to teach you, you as a player have to take the initiative.

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