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Vernon just can't play standing up it seems. If he's playing decently at 3-4 DE, that really just shows he should have his hand in the dirt.
I'd still chance it with him with a late rounder and try him at DE. If he's hanging at 3-4 DE, he's at least good enough to factor into the run game, and guys that are that fast that are already impacting the run game could turn into something nice.
Originally posted by SNIPER26
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If that happened, the Bucs could have the top line in the NFL in 4 years. Maybe even trade a 7th for gholston and put him at LDE.
Very exciting times. I can't stress how good I feel about our last two drafts. There's a big difference between just getting younger and actually adding young talent, which is what we've been doing methodically.
"Frosties are corn flakes for people who can't face reality"
The thing about Greg Hardy is that he realistically had one year where he couldn't get healthy and you can say that about most players by the time they hit the NFL, some injury history, it's the game.
The biggest knock on him coming out was an apparent lack of motivation, failure to show up to meetings, not giving 100% whatever.
Hardy said after he was drafted that he did try, tried 100% of the time but just wasn't healthy enough to be productive or always get on the field. He is healthy and according to Beason and to everyone from fans to media who've seen him practice and play he gives his all on every single play and if he's doing that with the starters against the Titans, at DT, DE and every where and abusing people I think he's going places.
I don't expect him to start, but by next season I could see him being the starting LDE or RDE and being a massive force for Carolina. I wasn't a fan of the pick, at all. Now I am.
As for Gholston, he's absolutely a bust, of the highest caliber guys from the same draft class from the 7th round have more sacks, even Hilee Taylor who's missed most of his NFL career with injuries has 1 sack, Trevor Scott in Oakland who was a 7th rounder has 12.
7. Plenty is riding on Vernon Gholston's first sack. The Jets' defensive end, New York's 2008 first-round pick, keeps getting closer and closer to the first sack of his NFL career. According to NFL Players Association documents, Gholston needs only one sack to trigger a $9.1 million roster bonus that the Jets would have the option to pick up next March. Gholston also could activate the $9.1 million bonus with 20 percent play time this season or one fumble recovery. If the Jets declined to pick it up, Gholston then would become an unrestricted free agent. This is an escalator that the Jets worked into Gholston's contract last offseason, when the two sides agreed to restructure his deal. So one sack, one fumble recovery, one interception or 20 percent play time could mean a big payday -- or it could punch Gholston's ticket out of New York.