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  • #16
    Theres no way the Steelers would not start Dixon if he was the better player. Hell, judging by his preseason performance, I don't know how anyone could even think he could play good enough to make the fans want him over Ben.

    Most Steelers fans think Dixon reminds them of Kordell Stewart. Trust me, fans arn't gonna be demanding he starts.

    Everyone knows Ben is necessary for this team to get back to a superbowl. No matter what people think about Ben's suspensions and accusations they want to win, and no one thinks Dixon is capable of becoming anything more than a solid athletic backup, at best.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
      I've heard of two theories as to why the Steelers won't start Dennis Dixon, and neither has anything to do with him being a bad player.

      There are rumors out there that he doesn't know the playbook, blew it in that preseason game....whatever. He was their primary backup last year and got a start vs. one of the leagues traditionally great defenses in the Ravens, and he didn't embarass himself. Apparently he knows the playbook well enough...you don't keep a QB around that doesn't know it to that degree. It would simply be stupid.

      The two theories that are more believable have to do with the Steelers wanting to avoid a controversy when Ben comes back and not wanting to pay Dixon a lot of money after this season when he becomes a RFA.

      Firstly, if Leftwich or Batch played well in the games that Ben was out for, no one would really clamor for them to be long term starters and take Ben's job. If a young, athletic, non-rapist playmaker like Dixon were to play well....it would be much a much harder sell to the fanbase and media to pull him for a potentially rusty Ben who has a lot of negative pub going on for him.

      And as I said, after this season, Dixon will be a RFA (Assuming a new CBA doesn't change that.) If he were to play well, with all of the team that could need a legit QB in the league, it would become hard for the Steelers to keep him. If tendered at the highest RFA level, the Steelers would get back a 1st and a 3rd from any team who signs him. So what if your a team like the Vikings...likely picking in the last half of the first round, built to win now, and in need of a long-term QB. Why draft someone completely unproven when you could send a 1st and a 3rd for a proven playmaker in the NFL like Dixon?

      The Steelers may really like what they have in Dixon, and they have reason to keep him around...they just want to do so as cheaply as is possible. I mean, Ben is one stupid act away from a year or longer suspension in the NFL.

      I think that it's a combination of those two things that's holding him back. It's all about the politics.
      So the Steelers would rather lose 4 games than risk having a backup player looking good? Seems rather silly to have good backup player if you are too scared to let him play in case anyone notices. What if Ben does something stupid this year and misses more time, or comes back and get hurt? Wouldnt you want Dixon in there getting the starts if he truly is the best option right now?

      After watching him versus the Broncos, I am more in the camp of thinking "he looks awful as a QB and needs more work still".

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      • #18
        Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
        I've heard of two theories as to why the Steelers won't start Dennis Dixon, and neither has anything to do with him being a bad player.

        There are rumors out there that he doesn't know the playbook, blew it in that preseason game....whatever. He was their primary backup last year and got a start vs. one of the leagues traditionally great defenses in the Ravens, and he didn't embarass himself. Apparently he knows the playbook well enough...you don't keep a QB around that doesn't know it to that degree. It would simply be stupid.

        The two theories that are more believable have to do with the Steelers wanting to avoid a controversy when Ben comes back and not wanting to pay Dixon a lot of money after this season when he becomes a RFA.

        Firstly, if Leftwich or Batch played well in the games that Ben was out for, no one would really clamor for them to be long term starters and take Ben's job. If a young, athletic, non-rapist playmaker like Dixon were to play well....it would be much a much harder sell to the fanbase and media to pull him for a potentially rusty Ben who has a lot of negative pub going on for him.

        And as I said, after this season, Dixon will be a RFA (Assuming a new CBA doesn't change that.) If he were to play well, with all of the team that could need a legit QB in the league, it would become hard for the Steelers to keep him. If tendered at the highest RFA level, the Steelers would get back a 1st and a 3rd from any team who signs him. So what if your a team like the Vikings...likely picking in the last half of the first round, built to win now, and in need of a long-term QB. Why draft someone completely unproven when you could send a 1st and a 3rd for a proven playmaker in the NFL like Dixon?

        The Steelers may really like what they have in Dixon, and they have reason to keep him around...they just want to do so as cheaply as is possible. I mean, Ben is one stupid act away from a year or longer suspension in the NFL.

        I think that it's a combination of those two things that's holding him back. It's all about the politics.
        It was said by one Steeler writer that he doesn't know the whole playbook, but he's getting better. If you heard the announcers talk during Dixon's start against Baltimore, they had only TEN plays for him to run. The ten plays he knew the best, that's what they ran. Maybe there was a little more, but as a QB being comfortable with only 10 plays out of however many is kinda pathetic.


        The whole him being in a QB controversy is pretty ******** if you ask me. Ben is the QB no matter if Dixon or Batch start the season 4-0. If anything, I can see Dixon getting traded in the offseason by a team needing a QB and signing him to an offer sheet.


        I like Dixon because he can make plays and is exciting, but I know he is not ready to start yet and I'd rather have Chuck back there because he knows the system and will not do anything that can potentially cost the Steelers a game. Dixon will play, but he will not be a starting QB here unless he's the last resort.

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        • #19
          Looks like Dixon will be the starter against Atlanta.

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          • #20
            Mike Tomlin confirms Dennis Dixon will start

            Yep.

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            • #21
              Good decision
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              • #22
                This doesnt need it's own thread but i saw something today that made me about fall off my chair. Mike Tomlin isnt committing to Ben getting his starting job back. Give me a ####ing break Mike and stop insulting our intelligence.

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                • #23
                  Complete joke. Thats just Tomlin committing to nothing in the media like he always does.

                  I bet you're going to put a 103 millions dollar QB with 2 superbowl rings on the bench for Lefty, Batch, or Dixon.

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                  • #24
                    Big Ben is one of the 5 most talented QBs in the league. Size, arm strength, mobility, accuracy, confidence, etc. He's got just about everything a team looks for in a QB, minus the off field stupidity. No coach is going to risk his own job security by sitting a QB that good. Big Ben is so good he's supposedly gotten by without much of a work ethic.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Halsey View Post
                      Big Ben is one of the 5 most talented QBs in the league. Size, arm strength, mobility, accuracy, confidence, etc. He's got just about everything a team looks for in a QB, minus the off field stupidity. No coach is going to risk his own job security by sitting a QB that good. Big Ben is so good he's supposedly gotten by without much of a work ethic.
                      Agree. And if he's that much of a cancer for the rest of the team they would have just traded him. Imagine him carrying a clipboard with those other stiffs out there on the field, they think Philly fans can be rough.....

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Halsey View Post
                        Big Ben is one of the 5 most talented QBs in the league. Size, arm strength, mobility, accuracy, confidence, etc. He's got just about everything a team looks for in a QB, minus the off field stupidity. No coach is going to risk his own job security by sitting a QB that good. Big Ben is so good he's supposedly gotten by without much of a work ethic.
                        Or OL......

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