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  • #31
    Originally posted by Brown Leader View Post
    Are you talking coaching/front office or free agents?
    Both can be a challenge. Buffalo went after Cowher pretty hard iirc, and I don't think they could have gotten him no matter how much money or power they offered. Yet I think he'll definitely be coaching Carolina or the NY Giants by next season.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by bhaarat316 View Post
      I honestly think the owner of the bills wants to tank the team and move them somewhere else.
      Most ignorant thing I've ever heard someone say about the Bills.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by bhaarat316 View Post
        Hey, got two good rbs...why not add a 3rd?
        Originally posted by Rosebud View Post
        They've made some bad moves but the Spiller pick was good. Marshawn's too scatter-brained to be a long term answer at RB, Fast Freddie is a stud but he's also like 29, meaning that moving forward you can't expect him to carry the load.

        I don't really agree with taking RBs top 10, but Spiller is a monster playmaker who'll be a top weapon for them for years. Plus they didn't have many good options, Tebow needs too much work and Clausen just wasn't good and mobile enough for them, so they couldn't have filled their QB need.
        Originally posted by bhaarat316 View Post
        Do they need a line to behind, Nope.
        Originally posted by Rosebud View Post
        As for an OT I'll agree that they could've taken Anthony Davis but you also have to consider that his maturity and focus issues would be a scary match with that town and outside of Davis there wasn't a top 10 worthy QB or LT left for them this past year. So while I don't really believe in taking RBs top 10 it's also pretty clear that they didn't have many options that'd be more valuable to their team in the future than a stud playmaker.
        Originally posted by bhaarat316 View Post
        Defense whats that now? 0-16 bound.
        Originally posted by Rosebud View Post
        As for their 3-4 shift I actually like it. Troup and Carrington were great pickups to restructuring that DL. They need pass rushers and someone to fill an ILB spot, but they needed pass rushers in either scheme and the 3-4 gave Aaron Maybin a better chance of actually tapping into his massive potential.
        Originally posted by bhaarat316 View Post
        Unless Fitz lifts this team on his shoulders and plays defense and somehow manages to win 1 or 2 games.
        Originally posted by Rosebud View Post
        This team desperately needs Jake Locker to put all of his **** together and end up a Bill. That would save the dumb HC hiring and leave them with LT as their last hu-*******-mongus offensive need.
        Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
        I just think Buffalo is a hard place to win in. Not many great FA's can be attracted there...not many great coaches can be attracted there....it's not a great market with lots of exposure.

        It may not play a huge part of it, but I think these reasons are why places like Buffalo, Detroit and Cleveland are always struggling. It's just tough to get the best people to come there.
        That's a really good point that people often times don't want to recognize. I haven't spent extensive time in Detroit but I spent a summer volunteering at the Cleveland Clinic and 2 years in Buffalo at RPCI and UB. While Buffalo was clearly an infinitely more enjoyable town than Cleveland or Detroit, it still didn't hold the appeal of a real City.

        There certainly are exceptions like Green Bay, Pittsburgh and for the last decade Indianapolis, but those cities' teams' have other factors that offset their lesser quality of life like some serious tradition of success or one of the greatest players in the game today.

        Without a stud QB to give the team direction it's hard for the Bills to keep their best players in place, but without a good coach they can't develop a stud QB and without a good FO that can really sell his vision to a coach they can't recruit a good HC to find and develop a stud QB to give the team direction that convinces other players to look past the small size of the town of Buffalo and monetary concerns to build up a good deep team that will last.

        BK

        Originally posted by AcheTen
        JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
        Originally posted by abaddon41_80
        Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
        Originally posted by JBCX
        Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by A Perfect Score View Post
          Things like this make me think that I could be a general manager in the NFL.
          Haha, me too.

          Kelsay isn't bad, but really? That's just going to cruise the market through the damn roof.
          | Hawkeyes || Rams || Lakers || Braves || Avalanche |

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          • #35
            Originally posted by SuperMcgee View Post
            I don't think there are many fans or people involved in the Bills organization that see the signing of TO as a bad thing. Or at least they shouldn't.
            Not that it was a bad thing per se, but it just shows that the team has no direction IMO.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Mr.Regular View Post
              Not that it was a bad thing per se, but it just shows that the team has no direction IMO.
              Meh, Jauron was a lame duck trying to save his job and the career of trent edwards so they took a minor risk. Since then the staff and management have changed completely and they're starting another rebuild.

              BK

              Originally posted by AcheTen
              JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
              Originally posted by abaddon41_80
              Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
              Originally posted by JBCX
              Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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              • #37
                Does anybody else have faith in Chan Gailey or is it just me?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by yourfavestoner View Post
                  Does anybody else have faith in Chan Gailey or is it just me?
                  I'm pretty sure it's just you...

                  Originally posted by ElectricEye
                  I'm a whiny little kunt. Feel sorry for me as I go masturbate to a picture of my mom dressed as a teletubby.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by yourfavestoner View Post
                    Does anybody else have faith in Chan Gailey or is it just me?
                    Yeah, just you. This year is going into the crapper in a hurry, and if they do take a rookie QB next year, that one won't be any prettier...

                    Plus they could still use a lot of help on defense too. They have a lot of stop-gaps and bad fits filling out their 3-4...they could use a host of young guys to step up and a lot of talent there too.

                    The division is also painfully tough.

                    I give him 2.5 years.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by yourfavestoner View Post
                      Does anybody else have faith in Chan Gailey or is it just me?
                      I'm pretty sure that's just you, although I've warmed up to him and wouldn't be shocked to see him actually do a solid job there, especially if they can get a LT like Gaithers through FA or trade before bringing in Jake Locker to run this spread as that kid would be perfect for this scheme if they're not going to sign Vick.

                      Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
                      Yeah, just you. This year is going into the crapper in a hurry, and if they do take a rookie QB next year, that one won't be any prettier...

                      Plus they could still use a lot of help on defense too. They have a lot of stop-gaps and bad fits filling out their 3-4...they could use a host of young guys to step up and a lot of talent there too.

                      The division is also painfully tough.

                      I give him 2.5 years.
                      Where are these holes on defense outside of LB? The DL will be strong once Troup becomes an experienced starter and Carrington gets settled in, throw in Kyle Williams and a mid to late rounder and that DL should be quite strong indeed. The Secondary's pretty talented with a sweet set of safeties with Byrd and Wilson and they have talent at CB, although I could use more from McKelvin. The desperately need to re-stock their rush backers and either replace Kawika or hope he's back 100% next year next to Poz, but outside of the LB corps I'm just not seeing all of these holes that you say they have on D.

                      Buffalo's really awkward, they've got a very talented secondary, 1 good ILB, young talent along the DL, a strong interior OL, a go to WR, a dependable #2, some decent TEs and a trio of good running backs but they're absolutely dreadful at the 3 most important parts of a team, QB, OT and DE/OLB. So theoretically this team could be picking #1 in the draft but then turn things around in a hurry.

                      BK

                      Originally posted by AcheTen
                      JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
                      Originally posted by abaddon41_80
                      Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
                      Originally posted by JBCX
                      Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by yourfavestoner View Post
                        Does anybody else have faith in Chan Gailey or is it just me?
                        If they start doing some trick plays and shiit Gailey knows how to do, then I"ll warm up to him.

                        Like I want to see all 3 Rb on the field at once, doing some crazy stuff. But head coaches don't usually do that. They'll do it as offensive coordinators, but once they become head coaches you see less or none of it. Ken Wiz, used to do it plenty in Pitt, now in AZ you hardly see it. I remember just one where Kurt got it thrown back to him and he bombed it to Fitz.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Rosebud View Post
                          I'm pretty sure that's just you, although I've warmed up to him and wouldn't be shocked to see him actually do a solid job there, especially if they can get a LT like Gaithers through FA or trade before bringing in Jake Locker to run this spread as that kid would be perfect for this scheme if they're not going to sign Vick.



                          Where are these holes on defense outside of LB? The DL will be strong once Troup becomes an experienced starter and Carrington gets settled in, throw in Kyle Williams and a mid to late rounder and that DL should be quite strong indeed. The Secondary's pretty talented with a sweet set of safeties with Byrd and Wilson and they have talent at CB, although I could use more from McKelvin. The desperately need to re-stock their rush backers and either replace Kawika or hope he's back 100% next year next to Poz, but outside of the LB corps I'm just not seeing all of these holes that you say they have on D.

                          Buffalo's really awkward, they've got a very talented secondary, 1 good ILB, young talent along the DL, a strong interior OL, a go to WR, a dependable #2, some decent TEs and a trio of good running backs but they're absolutely dreadful at the 3 most important parts of a team, QB, OT and DE/OLB. So theoretically this team could be picking #1 in the draft but then turn things around in a hurry.
                          McKelvin has looked like our best CB this year, easily.

                          You sound much too comfortable with what we have on offense. There's very little there.

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                          • #43
                            Since when as Roscoe Parrish been a dependable number 2?

                            Who are their TEs again?

                            Other then their 2 guards, and 3 rbs, and Lee Evans. I don't see much there.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by bhaarat316 View Post
                              Since when as Roscoe Parrish been a dependable number 2?

                              Who are their TEs again?

                              Other then their 2 guards, and 3 rbs, and Lee Evans. I don't see much there.
                              Parrish isn't a #2 receiver, IMO. But he is a decent, to above-average slot guy. The past regime(s) never utilized his skillset. I think he's the Bills' leading receiver in receptions and yards right now. Stevie Johnson looks like he has potential to be an adequate #2 guy. Yes, he has had drops here and there, but he has made some nice catches over the past few seasons (preseason included).

                              TE Shawn Nelson was also another guy who showed at least some promise last season. He hasn't played at all this year due to his suspension, so we'll see what he's got starting against Jacksonville next week. He is a good receiving option, but his blocking abilities weren't great, which was his major knock coming out of college. We haven't been able to see if he's improved in that regard, so once again, we'll have to wait for week 5.

                              Levitre and Wood look to be promising guards, while they both have their fair share of mental lapses. Wood looked much better last season, but I wasn't expecting him to be in top playing shape after coming off of his broken leg. Hangartner is a servicable center - not great, but not terrible. Cornell Green is a turnstyle over at right tackle, and I have no idea why he hasn't been taken out of the starting lineup. Bell at LT has shown flashes, but other times he's just downright terrible, especially in run-blocking. I am more down on him than many other Bills fans so you may not want my opinion on him.

                              But regarding the Kelsay extension... ughh.
                              He is absolutely terrible in the 3-4. His athleticism is terrible, and he's not getting any younger. It's a joke watching him try to do man-to-man, and he takes ridiculously bad angles on running plays. I've seen him forget to seal off the cutback to the outside, as he moved inside between the NT and DE, allowing the RB (who I can't remember who) bounce right to the outside and get a nice chunk of yardage. I guess I can see the extension as a leadership thing and not wanting to create another hole when we have as many as we do, but at least make it a 2 year extension or something so we dont have to take on his contract for 4 years. Maybe fill one OLB position in this year's draft, then another next year. By the time the third year rolls around, Kelsay is gone and the two new OLBs are groomed and ready to go. But I guess having a 34 year old, former DE play OLB is a better option.
                              Last edited by Bills2083; 09-30-2010, 09:41 PM.


                              Originally Posted by scottyboy
                              my lord...I cannot imagine such a world where I can mention Raymell Rice's thighs around a girl and not be the only one sexually aroused
                              But for everyone reading this in Buffalo and Cleveland and everywhere else, take solace in the following: As crazy as it sounds, you're lucky. Your Mount Everest experience is still ahead of you. It's waiting, and it's glorious.- Bill Simmons

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                              • #45
                                Buffalo loves to draft running backs like Millen loves wide receivers. Before Mcgahee contract expired they draft Lynch, before his contract expires they draft Spiller.

                                Spiller might work out like Calvin Johnson did. It is just such a waste to use high draft picks on a single position every few years.

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