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  • #91
    Given that the pats are playing without two of their starters and a few new guys, the line has looked very solid.


    Originally posted by WMD
    Jesse realizing Walt was Santa Claus could really shake things up.
    Originally posted by gpngc
    I don't know how old you are, but if you can get to 24/25 without getting arrested or killed, you've done well for yourself lol.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
      O-lines are typically something that struggles early in the year and gels later if they get to stick together.
      Originally posted by nepg View Post
      When you lose a line general like Mawae, it will affect everything. It's probably the main reason the Pats haven't replaced Dan Koppen. Dude is just the best OL director in the NFL... He gets eaten alive by NTs, but his ability to direct his linemates more than makes of for his deficiencies.
      If it doesn't clear up, mark Center as the #1 need for the Titans.

      That, or switching Harris to C (He can play any position. Dude's a beast), and put Amano at G. Amano may be better at pulling, and was part of a lot of big plays last year. Jake Scott is old and lacks athleticism. Harris can go toe-to-toe with massive DL's too (single handedly held Haloti Ngata in check as a rookie when he had to start at C for the '08 playoff game).

      It's not like they haven't faced good DL's though. The Steelers and the Giants are no joke. They easily handled the Raiders. I'm not sure where the Broncos rank, but they struggled running the ball against them. Cowboys will be another tough one.

      Pass-protection has been pretty good, to be honest. It's running the ball that's the issue. But I don't think CJ has really been giving his all, to be honest.
      Still Team The Ke$ha!!!

      [@TDWinstead]
      Originally posted by MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
      Damn Ke$ha is sexy.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by umphrey View Post
        Here's the main offensive line stats, sorted by sacks and another sorted by average

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         Rank        Team        Sacks  QB Hits   |   Rank        Team         Att    Yds     Avg    TDs  
          1   Dallas Cowboys       1       14     |     1  Houston Texans      124    688     5.5     5   
          2   Kansas City Chiefs   2       11     |     2  Philadelphia Eagle  95     527     5.5     5   
          3   New England Patrio   2       6      |     3  Arizona Cardinals   74     396     5.4     2   
          4   Baltimore Ravens     4       17     |     4  New York Jets       131    671     5.1     3   
          5   Indianapolis Colts   4       16     |     5  Minnesota Vikings   86     430      5      3   
          6   Cleveland Browns     4       10     |     6  Buffalo Bills       89     422     4.7     1   
          7   Green Bay Packers    5       10     |     7  New York Giants     113    534     4.7     4   
          8   New York Jets        5       8      |     8  Kansas City Chiefs  104    482     4.6     2   
          9   Minnesota Vikings    6       15     |     9  New England Patrio  81     370     4.6     2   
          10  Washington Redskin   6       13     |    10  Oakland Raiders     124    560     4.5     2   
          11  Cincinnati Bengals   7       25     |    11  San Diego Chargers  118    529     4.5     4   
          12  New Orleans Saints   7       11     |    12  Tennessee Titans    124    533     4.3     5   
          13  Tampa Bay Buccanee   7       12     |    13  Pittsburgh Steeler  123    534     4.3     4   
          14  Miami Dolphins       7       16     |    14  Washington Redskin  92     392     4.3     3   
          15  Atlanta Falcons      8       12     |    15  Cleveland Browns    113    466     4.1     4   
          16  Detroit Lions        8       21     |    16  Jacksonville Jagua  125    518     4.1     2   
         Rank        Team        Sacks  QB Hits   |   Rank        Team         Att    Yds     Avg    TDs  
          17  San Francisco 49er   8       26     |    17  Carolina Panthers   104    413      4      2   
          18  San Diego Chargers   8       16     |    18  Atlanta Falcons     149    579     3.9     3   
          19  New York Giants      9       22     |    19  Green Bay Packers   96     378     3.9     4   
          20  Pittsburgh Steeler   9       14     |    20  Miami Dolphins      88     336     3.8     1   
          21  Tennessee Titans     9       11     |    21  San Francisco 49er  83     315     3.8     2   
          22  Seattle Seahawks     9       14     |    22  Detroit Lions       87     321     3.7     4   
          23  Jacksonville Jagua   10      21     |    23  Seattle Seahawks    88     318     3.6     2   
          24  St. Louis Rams       10      21     |    24  Dallas Cowboys      69     240     3.5     1   
          25  Buffalo Bills        11      28     |    25  St. Louis Rams      110    381     3.5     2   
          26  Denver Broncos       11      22     |    26  Tampa Bay Buccanee  85     289     3.4     1   
          27  Houston Texans       11      17     |    27  Chicago Bears       84     275     3.3     0   
          28  Carolina Panthers    12      25     |    28  Cincinnati Bengals  111    368     3.3     2   
          29  Oakland Raiders      13      20     |    29  Indianapolis Colts  94     302     3.2     3   
          30  Arizona Cardinals    15      26     |    30  New Orleans Saints  94     293     3.1     1   
          31  Philadelphia Eagle   15      28     |    31  Baltimore Ravens    112    337      3      2   
          32  Chicago Bears        18      31     |    32  Denver Broncos      101    220     2.2     3
        New England Patriots are most impressive from this data. 2 sacks, 6 hits, 4.6 YPC even though they haven't run the ball much, a mediocre schedule.
        Where did you get this?

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        • #94
          The data is from NFL.com and I organized it in a spreadsheet.

          Thanks to BK for the sig

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          • #95
            Hooray the Chiefs line doesn't suck!

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            • #96
              im surprised the Lions' pass blocking is that high up. Theyre also 2nd in the NFL in sacks. Usually thats the formula to winning games, solid O-line and solid D-line.. Hmm yet they're 0-4. Well 1-3 because the refs stole the game from them in Chicago. CURSED

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Splat View Post
                Hooray the Chiefs line doesn't suck!
                The improvement has been noticeable, but I didn't really expect it to be that much. A lot of credit to Barry Richardson for filing into RT.
                Currently on IR: Rip 2011 Jamaal Charles :(

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                • #98
                  It is because Bulaga the Chiefs dont suck
                  my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
                  <TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
                  <+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
                  <+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
                  Originally posted by Hermstheman83
                  What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                    Let's try to name off all the good olines in the league right now.

                    Baltimore
                    Cleveland
                    Miami
                    NYJ

                    I know those 4 for sure are great^

                    What about SD? They look pretty decent, but I wouldn't call them elite, and they can't run block either.

                    Tennessee took a step back this year, so not them. I haven't seen enough of Cinncy to comment on them. Same for Pittsburgh.

                    I can't think of any other than those 4.
                    They can run block fine. Otherwise you're saying that Tolbert is the greatest RB in the NFL with over 6 ypc.

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                    • Originally posted by TheMorningZoo View Post
                      Yeah the Chargers are beasting it, and we are not even 100 % right now.
                      I have harped before about our O-Line play and their was some definite uncertainty at the start of the season with our unit. McNeill held out (until last week, but still hasn't suited up) and we were paper thin on depth.

                      Dumbo has taken over McNeill's spot and frankly has done a great job. I hope he is retained and rewarded, and his play is increasingly better each week. He is young and still makes mistakes, but unlike McNeill an actually run block. Clary on the other side is still sort of the inconsistent weak link of the starters. He shows flashes, but then will proceed to have his off games. I think if we do retain McNeill long term, maybe he could swap to the Right Side (but I doubt it because Dumbo is a better grader, and most likely will be kicked back over to his natural side).

                      Dielman and Hardwick are enigmas. Both are Pro Bowlers, Dielman is our most solid lineman, but has had his share of bad games. Hardwick-I love the guy, but the injury bug is catching up, and he struggles with big NT's (which he faces a lot). Vasquez is in his second year and is playing well, no concerns here.

                      Only real problem with our line as a unit is they suck as run blocking. Under Marty that is what we excelled at, granted we had guys that were nasty and played smash mouth football instead of the finesse game we play now. Mike Goff, Olivea, and even Fonoti opened big holes back in the day, but Goff aged, Olivea is out of the league, and Fonoti out ate himself.

                      If we can get that intensity back I will be a happy man.

                      I like what Houstons O line is doing, lots of smaller name, but the ZBS kills
                      A few minor corrections. First, Clary isn't the weak link. That would be Hardwick. Second, Dombo's natural position is on the left side, not the right. Even the coaches admitted as much. We'll see what happens with McNeill back. Maybe Dombroski will move to RG again. Or maybe he's the future replacement for Dielman. Or maybe he'll continue playing at left tackle while McNeill is benched.

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                      • I'm very impressed with M. Pouncey thus far.Keep up the good work brah!

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                        • Chiefs OL has been extremely impressive so far

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                          • Most good OLs remain good while the players that make it good are on their rookie contracts. Then they get paid, and the big lumbering lazy mode takes over.

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