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  • #31
    Originally posted by Bengalsrocket View Post
    There are a lot of things I don't get in the post, but I'll just post one so it doesn't seem like I'm ripping apart your thread.

    Is Clausen able to start? I mean, if he's not able to start because of a concussion, I don't see how this could be a sign of anything. He's simply starting the only available quarterback on his roster.

    And if Clausen is able to start now, but Fox doesn't like him as a prospect (or at least how you put it: he wasn't an endorsed draft choice by Fox) then why did he ever start him in the season? If you tell me the front office pressured him to start Clausen earlier in the season, then why aren't they doing the same thing now?

    Again, I'm not trying to attack you, I'm just legitimately confused.
    I think he is able to play. He had a headache after the game on sunday and then was absent from the injury report until Fox made the announcement. It's one of those things, the team can't come out and undermine Fox's decision and since he was listed on the report last sunday after a bit of a knock he can pretty much bench him with a concussion if healthy because the team will look evil if they push him to start jimmy.

    Originally posted by bhaarat316 View Post
    Funny they are trying to avoid spending money on draft picks and FA. But if they end up with the number 1 over all pick and end up having to pay crazy monies cause they tried to skimp on the team. irony?
    The money will be there in spades though and if there's a CBA he might not care.

    Originally posted by FlyingElvis View Post
    It seems like he did things well from the start and, over the last two years, decided to prepare for a lockout. While I can understand how it sucks for the fans and coaches, it is a pretty shrewd business move.

    Of course, if there's no lockout he's totally F'd. IDK, I don't feel like this write up includes all sides of the story.

    Didn't the Panthers offer Peppers an outrageously huge deal that he turned down? Didn't they pay him a Mill per game before he bolted for Chicago? They're holding onto DWill despite staring down a big contract for him as an FA / franchise tag player. There seems to be some evidence that it's not a wholesale attempt to ditch all $$$ guys. Hell, they just handed Jake that stupid extension last year, right?

    If I were a rich man (Topol?) I'd be bracing for the massive financial hit a lockout entails. Not everybody has the obscene revenue streams of a Cowboys / Patriots / NY team.
    The thing is that the Panthers do have obscene revenue streams they're the 12th most profitable franchise in the NFL. Just after Indianapolis and just before Tampa Bay. The bottom ten:
    1. San Francisco 49ers
    2. Arizona Cardinals
    3. San Diego Chargers
    4. Cincinnati Bengals
    5. Atlanta Falcons
    6. Detroit Lions
    7. Buffalo Bills
    8. St Louis Rams
    9. Minnesota Vikings
    10. Oakland Raiders
    11. Jacksonville Jaguars
    None of those teams wholesale shredded their pay roll.

    The contract with Peppers, was offered in the 07 offseason, an extension was offered in 08. He refused, so he was franchised. 1 mill a game for a season was a little expensive, but it was a one year commitment, not an on going cost, it would clear the ledger the next year. So it seems expensive but in the long term cost, it's not.

    Delhomme's contract that had everyone cackling was financially a good move, it prorated a huge bonus he was due and converted dead weight base salary into bonus payments.

    Extending Delhomme and then cutting him actually saved the team a couple of million.

    DWill is also one of the cheaper running backs in the NFL. Last year he made a little under 2.4 million, less than Josh McCown...

    He's also now coming off two seasons where he hasn't finished healthy. He's a great back, best on the team. But you don't cut a player on his calibre because he becomes a free agent the next year and he's playing for change in the scheme of things.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by BlindSite View Post
      I think he is able to play. He had a headache after the game on sunday and then was absent from the injury report until Fox made the announcement. It's one of those things, the team can't come out and undermine Fox's decision and since he was listed on the report last sunday after a bit of a knock he can pretty much bench him with a concussion if healthy because the team will look evil if they push him to start jimmy.



      The money will be there in spades though and if there's a CBA he might not care.



      The thing is that the Panthers do have obscene revenue streams they're the 12th most profitable franchise in the NFL. Just after Indianapolis and just before Tampa Bay. The bottom ten:
      1. San Francisco 49ers
      2. Arizona Cardinals
      3. San Diego Chargers
      4. Cincinnati Bengals
      5. Atlanta Falcons
      6. Detroit Lions
      7. Buffalo Bills
      8. St Louis Rams
      9. Minnesota Vikings
      10. Oakland Raiders
      11. Jacksonville Jaguars
      None of those teams wholesale shredded their pay roll.

      The contract with Peppers, was offered in the 07 offseason, an extension was offered in 08. He refused, so he was franchised. 1 mill a game for a season was a little expensive, but it was a one year commitment, not an on going cost, it would clear the ledger the next year. So it seems expensive but in the long term cost, it's not.

      Delhomme's contract that had everyone cackling was financially a good move, it prorated a huge bonus he was due and converted dead weight base salary into bonus payments.

      Extending Delhomme and then cutting him actually saved the team a couple of million.

      DWill is also one of the cheaper running backs in the NFL. Last year he made a little under 2.4 million, less than Josh McCown...

      He's also now coming off two seasons where he hasn't finished healthy. He's a great back, best on the team. But you don't cut a player on his calibre because he becomes a free agent the next year and he's playing for change in the scheme of things.
      Jacksonville and Buffalo?
      Sam Bradford will be a bust- 2/24/2010

      Colts Cardinals Bulls Hurricanes

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      • #33
        1. I'm not reading that.
        2. Props for using a different font than the default!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Shiver View Post
          1. I'm not reading that.
          2. Props for using a different font than the default!
          Then don't post. When I do an effort post I tend to use word so I can edit it better, try it some time.

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          • #35
            I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for fans of teams who have been in the super bowl.

            Seriously I'm tired of hearing fans of teams that have actually been to the playoffs or done stuff correctly EVER ***** regardless of their situation.

            Try being a Lions or Browns fan and stick through it for your entire life then come back and complain about how you're almost done supporting a franchise.

            (This is not directed as Blindsite I am just saying in general.)

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            • #36
              Originally posted by WinslowBodden View Post
              I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for fans of teams who have been in the super bowl.

              Seriously I'm tired of hearing fans of teams that have actually been to the playoffs or done stuff correctly EVER ***** regardless of their situation.

              Try being a Lions or Browns fan and stick through it for your entire life then come back and complain about how you're almost done supporting a franchise.

              (This is not directed as Blindsite I am just saying in general.)


              The redskins have been pretty ****** the last 19 or 20 years and the thing about it is unlike the lions and the browns we aren't supposed to suck, but we have a completely different problem than other teams
              RIP Sean Michael Taylor

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