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  • #31
    Ngata and Wilfork are 1 and 2 IMO as far as big men in the league...K. Williams would be 1B.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by ElectricEye View Post
      Kelly Gregg probably still deserves a ton of respect for the job he does in Baltimore as well.
      In the past, definitely. Unfortunately he is not playing that much above average this year.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by jsagan77 View Post
        [] Well informed

        Big Al has played NT this year just as much as HN
        He hardly plays and when he does, he plays like dog ****. He ******* sucks.

        I'd rank the DTs like this for 2010:

        1. Haltoi Ngata
        2. Vince Wilfork
        3. Richard Seymour
        4. Casey Hampton
        5. Cullen Jenkins


        Anthony Adams also deserves a plug. He's been a big part of the Bears great run defense. Kyle Williams is one of the Williams that doesn't get any attention (He plays in Buffalo so that has a lot to do with it). He's been great though for a terrible team. Dorsey and Suh have been excellent. Kevin Williams is still among the most talented DTs in the NFL. He's also one of the only Viking players that hasn't quit yet. He's also surrounded by a severely declining Pat Williams, a non existent Jared Allen, a huge drop off from Ray Edwards and some borderline terrible play from Brian Robison (who has done next to nothing this year after having a breakout year last year and helping create a lot of pressure with great stunts).

        I could probably name another 20 DTs that are more deserving of a mention in this thread than that lazy, fat piece of ****.

        Originally posted by killxswitch View Post
        Hampton past his prime is still better than most NTs but especially with Smith out, he has looked better in previous years. Granted I do not watch the Steelers week in and week out like you probably do but from what I have seen it is not exactly going out on a limb to say he is not as good as he used to be. Still good, sure, just not as good.
        Hampton has been a monster this year. It's among the best years he's had in his career. He's not good, he's great. He's easily a top 2 NT. He and Lawrence Timmons have been having career years. Wilfork is and has been the best NT in the NFL for the last 4 or 5 years. Kris Jenkins (as already mentioned) is really the only other NT that has the athletic ability, size, power and explosiveness to be easily better than Wilfork. Jenkins is easily the most talented NT in the NFL, but he's never healthy. Jenkins in 2008 was probably the greatest season I've ever seen from a NT. He was insane.

        Hampton has been a huge reason why the Steelers consistently have a top 3 run defense for the last 10 years. This year they're giving up 2.9 yards per carry and they're ranked 1st. 2009, in a down year for him, he helped anchor the 3rd ranked rush defense. 2008, the 2nd ranked rush defense. 2007, the 3rd. 2006, the 3rd. 2005, the 3rd. 2004, the 3rd. 2003, 11th. 2002, 1st. 2001, the 1st. He's helped the Steelers rank in the top 3 every year except for 1. He hasn't been good. He's been consistently dominant. He has a couple years where he wasn't playing elite football, but he was still among the very few NTs in the game that garner so much attention and free up so many players that he helps make everyone around him better. He's, along with Wilfork, among the greatest 34 NTs ever. I'd take Wilfork over Hampton, but it's fairly close.

        You can't rank Ngata with these two, or even begin to compare them. I would say Ngata is the better player, but he moves around the line way too much to be called a true NT with the likes of Wilfork and Hampton. It's a little different taking the ware and tear to the body when you're taking double teams on every single play. Do that for a decade and it's going to be pretty hard to be great. Hampton and Wilfork are two of the very few that still put up Pro Bowl seasons in year 7 or 10.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by BigBanger View Post
          He hardly plays and when he does, he

          You can't rank Ngata with these two, or even begin to compare them. I would say Ngata is the better player, but he moves around the line way too much to be called a true NT with the likes of Wilfork and Hampton. It's a little different taking the ware and tear to the body when you're taking double teams on every single play. Do that for a decade and it's going to be pretty hard to be great. Hampton and Wilfork are two of the very few that still put up Pro Bowl seasons in year 7 or 10.
          The only way Ngata isn't double teamed is if he's in coverage.....yea Ngata in coverage ahahhahaha The best in the game!!!
          Originally posted by SunTzu_22
          Just let it go RWO.
          We as Ravens fans are clearly scum of the earth, and should just be happy that these great people, who cheer for nothing than the finest, morally impeccable players, playing on the finest, most morally impeccable teams, will grace us with their presence, and words of wisdom.

          John Wall
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4CbQGBbUOw

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          • #35
            Originally posted by ElectricEye View Post
            Ahtyba Rubin is one guy who I can think of being better right away and Kelly Gregg probably still deserves a ton of respect for the job he does in Baltimore as well.
            Rubin has been a stud this year. He has over 50 tackles and 2 sacks; not to mention an interception. I don't know if he's good enough to be called top 5, because I haven't seen enough of all the nose tackles in the NFL to evaluate them this year. But he has been very good and is one of the few reasons the Browns' run defense isn't terrible. Raji has been very good from what I've seen as well.

            With that said, Ngata and Wilfork are clearly ahead of Hampton at this point. Ngata rarely plays nose, but he is the best DL in football. Wilfork is right up there as well.


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            • #36
              Originally posted by Nalej View Post
              How about A.Franklin in SF?
              I know he beasted last year. I haven't seen any of their games this year though
              I read from a SF fan in the "Most overrated player on your fav team" forum that he was having a suspect year and was living off his '09 reputation.

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