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  • Who's the most valuable front 7 defender in the NFL?

    If you were starting a defense today and could pick one guy for your front 7 to start with, who would it be?

  • kalbears13
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    Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
    You traded Brady Quinn for Peyton Hillis. No more complaining about trades for you!
    Ngata>>>>>>>>>Hillis

    This is kind of irrelevant but I believe only one player from the Browns has been traded and made a Pro Bowl afterwards and that's Jeff Faine in 2007 with the Saints. (I could be missing somebody though and Ngata doesn't count since they traded the pick not the player.)

    Ugh...only 4 players are still on the team from 5 drafts (2004-2008)
    Lawrence Vickers- 2006
    Joe Thomas- 2007
    Eric Wright- 2007
    Ahtyba Rubin- 2008
    Last edited by kalbears13; 12-06-2010, 03:03 AM.

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  • ESVAburnout
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    Originally posted by Sportsfan486 View Post
    Gotta go with the consensus; Ngata. He affects every aspect of D for the Ravens on every play, guys like Matthews and Ware are pretty one-dimensional overall; neither is really a good cover guy and neither are really that amazing against the run. James Harrison would be my #2, 'cuz his intimidation factor is sorta what Ray Lewis had in the day.. teams are terrified to come across the middle against the Steelers, plus he's a better cover guy than either Ware or Matthews and better against the run, if not quite as elite a pass-rusher.
    No. I'm not saying you haven't watched every single Cowboys game in the past 10 years. However, Demarcus Ware is a beast. I've seen him cover Tight Ends 1-on-1 and dive to knock the ball away. As far as Against the run? The is guy a wall he shuts down one side of the field. All jokes aside/homer aside I would take Ware over Harrison.

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  • SenorGato
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    There's this guy:



    DeMarcus Ware
    Vince Wilfork




    Everyone else.

    Suh will be there next year or the year after. Pouncey looks like a damn good C...handled Ngata as well as you can tonight.
    Last edited by SenorGato; 12-06-2010, 12:40 AM.

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  • Michigan
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    Ngata and Suh are 1a and 1b in my book. Both are domination.

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  • baghdadbob
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    Barry Cofield.

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  • wogitalia
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    I'll take Ngata as well, guy is an absolute beast and perhaps more importantly, assuming a fantasy draft, he gives you complete flexibility to what scheme you will run.

    If I know my scheme already I can see cases for Raji, Wilfork, Suh, Willis and Matthews as being as dominant or as prospectively dominant as Ngata but Ngata is giving me similar impact to all those guys regardless of the scheme I throw him in.

    Reading this thread and thinking it over just makes me think even more how scary the Packers are... I actually hate being a Vikings fan knowing that in all reality when I assess the division that the Packers should be stomping all over us for the next 10 years... Some things in life aren't fair and the job they've done in the last 5 years assembling their team is one of them!

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  • Sportsfan486
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    Gotta go with the consensus; Ngata. He affects every aspect of D for the Ravens on every play, guys like Matthews and Ware are pretty one-dimensional overall; neither is really a good cover guy and neither are really that amazing against the run. James Harrison would be my #2, 'cuz his intimidation factor is sorta what Ray Lewis had in the day.. teams are terrified to come across the middle against the Steelers, plus he's a better cover guy than either Ware or Matthews and better against the run, if not quite as elite a pass-rusher.

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  • thenewfeature06
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    Dumervil is a guy who exploded last year pre-injury and imo is a top 5 3-4 OLB

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  • senormysterioso
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    As an aside, I like doing the fantasy draft franchise on Madden, I ended up with the sickest front seven. My offense kind of sucked for a few seasons, but my defense shut everybody down.

    DE- Haloti Ngata
    DT- BJ Raji
    DE- Ndamukong Suh
    OLB- Clay Matthews
    ILB- Rolando McClain
    ILB- Jon Beason
    OLB- Brian Orakpo

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  • ThePudge
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    Raji will be a premier DT in this league, but I think it may not be as soon as next season. I think he can become a Pro Bowl caliber player by next year but I don't think he'll challenge the NFLs elite (Ngata) for a couple seasons. I've been impressed by the progress he's shown this year. He's close to making the next step and becoming a dominant force. Green Bay got a real good player in Raji.

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  • PACKmanN
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    Originally posted by senormysterioso View Post
    I love love LOVE Raji, he's been huge for us. But to suggest that he'll ever touch Ngata is just wrong. Raji can do a lot of things, but he'll never be as athletic as Ngata is at a similar weight. He's a freak of nature.
    I never said he is a smae freak of nature as he is. Reaching a talent level and the same work of body is different. Both can be at the same level, at different sizes.

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  • gpngc
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    Grig Jinning.

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  • tuan33
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    Originally posted by TACKLE View Post
    I can understand wanting to see him in a 3-4, but lets not pretend like he has any runstopping responsibilities with the Colts.
    Except he wouldn't have to worry about gap control as much as a rushbacker. That and he wouldn't have to take on a LT and a Rb almost everyplay.

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  • DoughBoy
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    accept he cant stay healthy to save his life.

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