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  • #31
    Urban Meyer and Bill Belichick's bromance is probably what EE means. Meyer and BB have been friends for years now and Meyer comes to Patriots practices and BB have been at Florida's workouts personally. This spring he stayed another day down there to work out Florida players which is kind of a rarity I think.

    Originally posted by ElectricEye
    I'm a whiny little kunt. Feel sorry for me as I go masturbate to a picture of my mom dressed as a teletubby.

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    • #32
      Thanks that sheds light on it for sure.

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      • #33
        Meyer needs to stay the **** away from the NFL. His gimmicks work in college, but not the pros.
        **** her in da *****!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by descendency View Post
          Meyer needs to stay the **** away from the NFL. His gimmicks work in college, but not the pros.
          They only work in college if he has a heisman candidate at QB for him too.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by senormysterioso View Post
            They only work in college if he has a heisman candidate at QB for him too.
            Eh, I'm sure he could make a decent player into a heisman candidate as long as they have 4.4 speed (or 4.6 speed with fullback size) and a decent QB arm. (and by decent, I mean not worse than tebow...)
            **** her in da *****!

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            • #36
              He can go run the Florida offense in Denver and Tebow can average 1.5 YPC and 3 concussions per year.

              Thanks to BK for the sig

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              • #37
                I always thought this whole notion was silly. If he was willing to start off his NFL career on a great College QB that could be a massive bust as an NFL QB just because he coached him in College he would have to be crazy.


                I don't think Tebow is the only QB he'd be able to work with, nor do I think he is thinking he needs to rely on Tebow to be succesful in Denver. It almost be a slap in the face to his family for talking about how he's missing his kids games growing up etc, yet he goes and gets a more time demanding job immediately after?


                He's not going anywhere right now, and I really don't think he would feel the need to hinge the start of his NFL career with Tim Tebow.





                Originally posted by Scott Wright
                I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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                • #38
                  Meyer needs to stay the **** away from the NFL. His gimmicks work in college, but not the pros.
                  Patriots say otherwise!


                  Props to BK on the sig!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by wogitalia View Post
                    Patriots say otherwise!
                    Rather ironic considering who posted it as well.

                    R.I.P. Junior Seau

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by wogitalia View Post
                      Patriots say otherwise!
                      No, they don't. If you can't tell the difference between the Urban Meyer zone-read the the Patriots spread offense, then you should start enjoying basketball more.
                      **** her in da *****!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by descendency View Post
                        No, they don't. If you can't tell the difference between the Urban Meyer zone-read the the Patriots spread offense, then you should start enjoying basketball more.
                        We legit borrow concepts from it...

                        Belichick quote
                        "I went down there (to Gainesville), and it was good for me," Belichick said. "The offense he runs is very ... I won't say it's a pro-style offense, but it's an open offense that has a lot of pro elements to it.
                        There's reasons Hernadez has picked up the routes so fast.

                        R.I.P. Junior Seau

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by ElectricEye View Post
                          We legit borrow concepts from it...

                          Belichick quote


                          There's reasons Hernadez has picked up the routes so fast.
                          Sure, every team has a route tree. And parts of every route tree are found on every team in the NFL. But you're missing the point entirely. Urban Meyer's offense is about 50% based on option plays (Zone Read, or bootleg option). He couldn't even teach Tebow to take a snap from center - where Tebow could have been lethal in the QB sneak...

                          The only things that are similar are the basic idea of how we want the ball to move (large amounts of YAC, balanced offense) and small parts of our route trees. You could pick any school in the country and find elements of the NE offense there.

                          I'm seriously wondering how people don't understand that the Florida offense is based on single read option plays while the Patriots base a large amount of their passing game on intermediate routes? Deon Branch and Troy Brown did not run Go routes or Drag routes...

                          As for Hernandez, he's picking it up quickly because he's 6'1" 250 lbs and can flat fly in pads. Linebackers can't cover him. Teams can't afford to cover him with a safety and even if they do, he's a lot more physical than a safety usually is.
                          **** her in da *****!

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                          • #43
                            would the offense meyer runs even stand a chance in the nfl?

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                            • #44
                              Sure, every team has a route tree. And parts of every route tree are found on every team in the NFL. But you're missing the point entirely. Urban Meyer's offense is about 50% based on option plays (Zone Read, or bootleg option). He couldn't even teach Tebow to take a snap from center - where Tebow could have been lethal in the QB sneak...
                              Your running game has nothing to do with Meyer's system, but the passing elements are very similar, using your slot as your "primary" and moving him to create matchups for other players is pretty much the Florida passing system.

                              You guys can run just about anything because of your QB but this season your passing game is eerily familiar to the passing side of Meyer's system.

                              The only things that are similar are the basic idea of how we want the ball to move (large amounts of YAC, balanced offense) and small parts of our route trees. You could pick any school in the country and find elements of the NE offense there.
                              You don't see similarities in the passing game? I'm pretty sure I'm not the only guy who has noticed that your passing game is very similar. There are massive parts of Meyer's system that you don't touch at all, but there are also massive similarities in the parts that you have touched. That fake blitz pickup play with Welker and Woodhead in the backfield against the Jets was straight out of Meyer's play book.

                              As for Hernandez, he's picking it up quickly because he's 6'1" 250 lbs and can flat fly in pads. Linebackers can't cover him. Teams can't afford to cover him with a safety and even if they do, he's a lot more physical than a safety usually is.
                              Agree here. Hernandez is a beast, still can't believe he fell as far as he did in the draft, was great at Florida and played probably the most pro relevant role of all their skill guys. That said, running a very similar passing system has certainly helped him get acclimated quicker with the offense.

                              Don't misinterpret me as saying that the Patriots are running an identical offense, but their passing game has quite obviously taken large elements of Meyer's spread passing system and implemented them, at least imo. That doesn't mean his system would fail in the NFL or that it would work, it does indicate that with the right pieces a fair chunk of the system can work.

                              He couldn't even teach Tebow to take a snap from center - where Tebow could have been lethal in the QB sneak...
                              Maybe, maybe not. I've played QB but I'm a RB by nature and I struggled mightily running sneaks because a sneak takes away your leg drive, acceleration and size for the most part. Tebow was an effective runner because he was quick off the mark and could make subtle moves that emphasised his size, sneaking doesn't allow this, he'd basically be a big guy trying to get through a little hole. He might have done well at it, but it is far harder to do any other kind of run from under center than from Shotgun for the QB, on the flipside it is harder to run backs from the shotgun...


                              Props to BK on the sig!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by descendency View Post
                                Sure, every team has a route tree. And parts of every route tree are found on every team in the NFL. But you're missing the point entirely. Urban Meyer's offense is about 50% based on option plays (Zone Read, or bootleg option). He couldn't even teach Tebow to take a snap from center - where Tebow could have been lethal in the QB sneak...
                                He didn't have to teach Tebow to do that because in the college game the option works so well. Like wogitalia said, our running game is independent of the passing game.

                                Originally posted by descendency View Post
                                The only things that are similar are the basic idea of how we want the ball to move (large amounts of YAC, balanced offense) and small parts of our route trees. You could pick any school in the country and find elements of the NE offense there.
                                We've actually gotten away from some of the stuff we took from Florida, McDaniel's took that with him, but in 2007 we were doing a ton of that stuff. McDaniel's took Tebow with in the first partially because he could see him translating to his offense easier than others because of some of the similarities. No, there's no zone read or options, but wogitalia mentioned some of the things we did similarly. Sure we could have took those concepts from anyone, but come on dude. We went to Florida coaching clinics. We know that offense and we took things from it for sure.

                                R.I.P. Junior Seau

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