Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Opinions Please

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • remix 6
    started a topic Opinions Please

    Opinions Please

    This kid "SmashMouth" or w.e keeps insisting Patriots will/should draft Leonard because he can be our featured back and be a starter that we need. Heres what hes saying

    -Leonard is as fast and quick as Maroney
    -Leonard is bigger and stronger than Maroney
    -Says Maroney is not a featured back and we need someone who can start


    Can someone please help me get it through his head that Maroney faster and quicker on the field than Leonard and that Maroney will be fine as a featured back.

    Need some opinions please. Thanks

  • remix 6
    replied
    Originally posted by Shiver View Post
    What if Leonard were black?

    .....

    Sorry, but I think, unknowingly, we all have the tendency to judge based off of that factor. Not intentionally, but it is, what it is. I personally think he would be very good in a committee R.B.B.C situation. That said; Maroney is much better than he is. To suggest otherwise is crazy, in my estimation.
    i can care less if hes blue. im not saying he isnt a good enough RB or starter b/c hes white. im saying hes not gonna ever beat out Maroney whos much faster/quicker and more natural at RB. Leonard is fast straightline and strong but he doesnt have enough wiggle. same can be said about a lot of black RBs coming into pros

    Leave a comment:


  • TheChampIsHere
    replied
    Originally posted by Shiver View Post
    What if Leonard were black?

    .....

    Sorry, but I think, unknowingly, we all have the tendency to judge based off of that factor. Not intentionally, but it is, what it is. I personally think he would be very good in a committee R.B.B.C situation. That said; Maroney is much better than he is. To suggest otherwise is crazy, in my estimation.
    for all the talk about people being racist and not giving Leonard his props I dont know anyone, experts or fans, who still think of Leonard as a FB. In college, he weighed a lot more so at first people thought of him as a FB who would be a great receiving threat and a good runner as well, a versatile weapon. Then he lost weight and showed HB speed so now everyone has him as a HB. I mean who is not giving him his fair shake? No one is still calling him a FB. Its a bunch of nonsense honestly. Nobody acted like Hawk wasnt a phenomenal athlete last year, nobody is acting like Olsen isn't a remarkable athlete at his position. If you wanna talk unconscious racism, how about the premise that every black QB is athletic with a strong arm but cant read a defense? Thats the only place where I really see much racism/bias in evaluation in football.

    I like Leonard and I dont think he is quite a feature back but I think he'd be a great back in a RBBC. He has such a great skill set that he can be a versatile weapon for a team. However, Maroney is a great pure runner and I think he has the stuff to be a top 10 back in this league now that he has a feature role.

    Leave a comment:


  • Shiver
    replied
    What if Leonard were black?

    .....

    Sorry, but I think, unknowingly, we all have the tendency to judge based off of that factor. Not intentionally, but it is, what it is. I personally think he would be very good in a committee R.B.B.C situation. That said; Maroney is much better than he is. To suggest otherwise is crazy, in my estimation.
    Last edited by Shiver; 03-20-2007, 03:52 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • TheChampIsHere
    replied
    Originally posted by remix 6 View Post
    Maroney's weakness isnt inside running..most of his yards came there because thats where we ran him most :\
    you did see that I said I think hes extremely underrated in that department right? Hes not a back whos thought of as a pounder in between the tackles, but honestly I think he's a very complete back.

    Leave a comment:


  • remix 6
    replied
    Originally posted by TheChampIsHere View Post
    I agree Leonard would be a good pick for the Patriots and I wouldnt be the least bit surprised if he gets taken at 28 by them, in fact I have my mock saying that they will.

    I disagree that the Pats need a feature back and that Leonard is a better back than Maroney.

    Im a big fan of Maroney and I think he can be a starter, but he did great in a dual HB system last year and in this day and age you dont want your backfield to be too thin. Leonard would be a real nice addition to the Pats because he can be a backup runner and he is a tough inside runner which is really the only weakness in Maroney's game (although I think hes underrated in that regard) Leonard would also fit in real well with a team like the Pats that like to use their backs in the passing game because he is a great receiver.
    Maroney's weakness isnt inside running..most of his yards came there because thats where we ran him most :\

    Leave a comment:


  • TheChampIsHere
    replied
    I agree Leonard would be a good pick for the Patriots and I wouldnt be the least bit surprised if he gets taken at 28 by them, in fact I have my mock saying that they will.

    I disagree that the Pats need a feature back and that Leonard is a better back than Maroney.

    Im a big fan of Maroney and I think he can be a starter, but he did great in a dual HB system last year and in this day and age you dont want your backfield to be too thin. Leonard would be a real nice addition to the Pats because he can be a backup runner and he is a tough inside runner which is really the only weakness in Maroney's game (although I think hes underrated in that regard) Leonard would also fit in real well with a team like the Pats that like to use their backs in the passing game because he is a great receiver.

    Leave a comment:


  • remix 6
    replied
    Originally posted by Smooth Criminal View Post
    I like Maroney alot but I do think some of his success came from the fact that they had Dillon. I think getting a guy like Leonard that can also be a weapon in the passing and running game from FB would be a great move for the Pats. They really don't have any glaring needs after signing talents at LB and WR and signing back Samual. I think adding Leonard would add another dimension to their offense and give Brady yet another weapon to use.
    the point of this thread isnt wether Patriots could use Leonard or not. Its more along the lines of your opinions on SmashMouth saying "Leonard is faster and quicker than Maroney and would be a FEATURED back Patriots need"

    He doesnt think Maroney is faster/quick than Leonard and doesnt believe hes good enough to start so he wants Leonard to start at RB :\

    Leave a comment:


  • Smooth Criminal
    replied
    I like Maroney alot but I do think some of his success came from the fact that they had Dillon. I think getting a guy like Leonard that can also be a weapon in the passing and running game from FB would be a great move for the Pats. They really don't have any glaring needs after signing talents at LB and WR and signing back Samual. I think adding Leonard would add another dimension to their offense and give Brady yet another weapon to use.

    Leave a comment:


  • remix 6
    replied
    Originally posted by ninerfan View Post
    Maroney and vet back up will do the Pats just fine
    which is Sammy Morris who he says cant start incase an emergy and same with Faulk

    although both have started in past and Morris did better than Brown last year filling in :\

    Leave a comment:


  • ninerfan
    replied
    Maroney and vet back up will do the Pats just fine

    Leave a comment:


  • luckyjackaubrey
    replied
    Maroney will be a great back but I like the choice of Leonard for many reasons.

    #1 You need depth in the nfl. Maroney didn't make it through last year in one
    piece and few do. This team likes a healty back on the field and often
    chose to keep Dillon on the bench with minor dings. You gotta practice
    all week to play for Bill.

    #2 Maroney will be great but I still think you need to push him. Sophmore
    jinx is not a well known phenomena because someone made it up. I saw
    a different back after he came back from the 2 game injury hiatus. He
    was tentative hitting holes and the 3rd gear was not as evident. Having
    a 2nd option is a good thing. Sammy Morris is depth, k Faulk is 3rd down
    back, Evans is a cult hero / special teams guy.
    #3 The Patriots are a diverse offense that morphs weekly. What Maroney
    does one week, Leonard will do differently the next. Their skill sets
    are complimentary.
    #4 I like leonard's makeup. I think he would have no problem being the 2nd
    guy and would respond to Bill telling him to bust his butt for playing
    time. The push would keep LM working hard. I think he needs to be
    challenged.

    Leave a comment:


  • etk
    replied
    Brian Leonard is not NFL starting tailback material. He can be a West Coast FB/H-back, but at RB his potential is limited to that of a Nick Goings.

    Leave a comment:


  • duckseason
    replied
    Originally posted by Severe Punishment View Post
    So he likes Leonard, even better than maroney...seriously what harm is this causing and why do you care what he thinks ?
    One of the greatest aspects of sports is the arguments. They're arguing about his favorite team. Me and my brother had fist fights over things like whether or not his 9ers intentionally allowed Candlestick to become muddy for the '94 NFC Championship against my Cowboys. It's what memories are made of.

    Leave a comment:


  • princefielder28
    replied
    Tell him he's wrong. Leonard is a threat out of the backfield but Maroney is a back that can take the load and be a very successful back in the NFL. He played unbelieveable at Minnesota and that will translate right to the NFL once he becomes the full time starter and that time is now.

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X

Debug Information