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  • #16
    while they're at it, they need to put in the best long snapper and best holder in the hall of fame too, because after all, they are the best at their position too.

    Eric Metcalf should go in the hall of fame too since he had the punt return TD record and was a productive player on offense. Josh Cribbs must be on the cusp because he's the best kick off returner ever.

    Maybe if Devin Hester had like 30 return TDs, he'd have an argument.

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    • #17
      the problem is that those game are not as much game changers. I mean Eric Metcalf had 351 Punt returns. he had 10 Punt Returns for a TD, that means ever 35 returns he had 1 TD. Hester has 73 Punt Returns with 10 Punt return TDs. He has one ever 7 Returns. that is huge. He also averages 2 more yards than Metcalf per return and 8 more per Kickoff return.

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      • #18
        If Hester does go to the Hall of Fame, it should be as a kick returner, not as a wide receiver. They should make that designation for sure, because it's disrespectful to the guys who earned their way in as receivers otherwise. But if he puts up 25+ return TD's, he might have an argument. The game hasn't seen anything like this guy, that's for sure.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by *** Ork Wang View Post
          the problem is that those game are not as much game changers. I mean Eric Metcalf had 351 Punt returns. he had 10 Punt Returns for a TD, that means ever 35 returns he had 1 TD. Hester has 73 Punt Returns with 10 Punt return TDs. He has one ever 7 Returns. that is huge. He also averages 2 more yards than Metcalf per return and 8 more per Kickoff return.
          All of this is true, but Metcalf also had almost 6,000 more yards as a running back and receiver and 32 more touchdowns.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by wonderbredd24 View Post
            All of this is true, but Metcalf also had almost 6,000 more yards as a running back and receiver and 32 more touchdowns.
            That's all irrelivent if he's going in as a KR

            I knew someone was going to bring up long snapper/holders. Dumb.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Nalej View Post
              That's all irrelivent if he's going in as a KR

              I knew someone was going to bring up long snapper/holders. Dumb.
              How is it irrelevant? Deion Sanders is a Hall of Fame corner, but they aren't going to just throw out what he did as a returner and wide receiver. The whole body of work is in the discussion.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Nalej View Post
                That's all irrelivent if he's going in as a KR

                I knew someone was going to bring up long snapper/holders. Dumb.
                I agree, you can't really compare a long snapper or holder to a great KR. A great returner is a weapon, a great long snapper is pretty much a dime a dozen. Jan Stenerud is the only real specialist in the hall of fame, but I think the career points record is a big reason why. Being the best at something goes a long way in the process.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by wonderbredd24 View Post
                  How is it irrelevant? Deion Sanders is a Hall of Fame corner, but they aren't going to just throw out what he did as a returner and wide receiver. The whole body of work is in the discussion.
                  bc D.Sanders isn't in the HOF as a returner.
                  He's arguably the greatest cover corner ever.

                  So you can't compare that to Hester, who might go in as a KR/PR
                  Not a HOF WR who also shattered the KR/PR TD record
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ElectricEye View Post
                    The game hasn't seen anything like this guy, that's for sure.
                    That's pretty much my argument. He broke Mitchell's record in 1/3 the games and 1/4 of the return attempts.

                    You also have to remember that in 2008/2009 he was taken off full time KR/PR duties because teams wouldn't kick to him and because we converted him into a WR.

                    Hester gets one or two chances a game to make a big play and this year he's returned to his 2006/2007 form. He only has 3 TD's, but he's consistently had big returns this season.

                    He's a game changer. Hell, he's a field position changer. He doesn't have to touch the ball to be effective.

                    The scary thing is he's going to keep this going because he's still in his prime. Teams will kick to him whether they want to or not and if we can build up our offense some more it'll cause a dilemma. Do you kick it out of bounds and give us field position? Or do you take your chances at covering him?

                    I remember some on this board claiming he was a flash in the pan in 2006/2007 and would lose his impact as teams kicked away from him. Well, it's 2010 and he's had 3 more returns and looks as dominant as ever.

                    As Urlacher said after the Green Bay game; "He's back."

                    As far as the HOF goes I think you make exceptions to the rule. And the rule is special teams players usually don't get in no matter how good they are. In Hester's case though he's hands down the GOAT and the most dominant return man by far. He revolutionized the return game and that to me is grounds for a HOF induction (then again I'm probably fairly biased on this subject :D).


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                    • #25
                      Hes good, but there are a few others in history that run neck n neck with him. i.e.: Dante Hall, Allen Rossum, Antwaan Randle El, hell i'd even put Desean Jackson and Dexter McCluster up there, Dont get me wrong, Hester is indeed impressively good at returnman but the game just aint the same as it used to be. Dudes scared to tackle nowadays and get fined,plus the overall gap in speed between Hester and those cover men are scary. None of the guys I mentioned were real speedsters except the last two new guys, but they just had that elusiveness and agility about them, thats why their more fun to watch then just a blur of speed (Hester).

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by BASE_GOD View Post
                        Hes good, but there are a few others in history that run neck n neck with him. i.e.: Dante Hall, Allen Rossum, Antwaan Randle El, hell i'd even put Desean Jackson and Dexter McCluster up there, Dont get me wrong, Hester is indeed impressively good at returnman but the game just aint the same as it used to be. Dudes scared to tackle nowadays and get fined,plus the overall gap in speed between Hester and those cover men are scary. None of the guys I mentioned were real speedsters except the last two new guys, but they just had that elusiveness and agility about them, thats why their more fun to watch then just a blur of speed (Hester).
                        Dante Hall had....what? One good year? Same goes for Rossum or Randel El.....And Jackson has 4 PR in his career and no KR. And McCluster is a ******* rookie.

                        I wasn't going to post in here because I was either going to look like a raging homer or like I was disrespecting what Hester has done for us. But you can't seriously compare guys with a fraction of his return production to him.

                        If you want to make the argument that as an overall player, Desean Jackson is better, go for it, because no one will argue with you. But based on pure return ability and production, Hester wins.

                        Now Hall of Fame....not right now. Specialists don't get in, and there hasn't been any exception to date. If he keeps it up and does something like double up the old record? Then we'll talk. Because it would be very hard to keep him out at that point based on his impact on the game.

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                        • #27
                          This is not Surprising coming from a Bears fan, but like I said the game has changed for the worse and if you dont agree you got **** for brains. And you obviously just became a football fan saying Hall, Rossum, & Randle El had ONE good year! If you were next to me i'd probably give you a wedgie and take your glasses from you and call you harmful things like "douche" or "tool".

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by BASE_GOD View Post
                            This is not Surprising coming from a Bears fan, but like I said the game has changed for the worse and if you dont agree you got **** for brains. And you obviously just became a football fan saying Hall, Rossum, & Randle El had ONE good year! If you were next to me i'd probably give you a wedgie and take your glasses from you and call you harmful things like "douche" or "tool".
                            Wow you're definitely the coolest person here. I love Internet tough guys.

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                            • #29
                              Am I cool because I wear shades indoors or because i say stuff that makes the little guys say "Wow, that guy's awesome! I wanna be like him one day." Or am I cool because i make valid points in these threads and knuckleheads like you cant accept the fact that your not always right?

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                              • #30
                                Randel El has 6 career returns, not even half of Hester's.

                                Rossum has a grand total of 8...still not close to Hester.

                                Hall has 12....he's closest, this I'll give you....but his were still bunched around abour 2-3 years in the early part of his career.

                                And the biggest kicker? All of them took more games and more attempts to total numbers that are lower than what Hester has done!

                                Piss off dude.

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