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  • #31
    As if I didn't have enough reasons to dislike him already, he's going to rip the award from Mike Williams.
    Just play me, baby

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    • #32
      I just can't wait til Tebow wins the sportsman award because he's MOTHER F***ing TIM TEBOW, you don't F*** WITH MOTHER F***ING TIM TEBOW!!! and ya know... all that god stuff.
      Last edited by soybean; 12-25-2010, 12:58 AM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by NotRickJames View Post
        As if I didn't have enough reasons to dislike him already, he's going to rip the award from Mike Williams.
        That's another guy I can't see giving it to. He basically ate his way out of the NFL. Coming back from twinkies and gallons of gravy doesn't do it for me.

        My vote goes to either Urlacher or EJ Henderson.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Monomach View Post
          That's another guy I can't see giving it to. He basically ate his way out of the NFL. Coming back from twinkies and gallons of gravy doesn't do it for me.

          My vote goes to either Urlacher or EJ Henderson.
          He probably wouldn't have won it anyway. The award always goes to a high-profile player who returns from an injury. I could have seen them giving it to Welker.
          Just play me, baby

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          • #35
            Deion Branch has a chance too, but Mike Williams probably has him beat as far as WR's are concerned.

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            • #36
              Dogs are cute and all, but I still am blown away by just how much people flipped their **** about Mike Vick. Especially when you have murderers still playing in the NFL, Stallworth, Leonard Little, Ray Lew...in summation Dogs < People, ergo Mike Vick > any of the murders who've played in the NFL.

              BK

              Originally posted by AcheTen
              JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
              Originally posted by abaddon41_80
              Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
              Originally posted by JBCX
              Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Monomach View Post
                That's another guy I can't see giving it to. He basically ate his way out of the NFL. Coming back from twinkies and gallons of gravy doesn't do it for me.

                My vote goes to either Urlacher or EJ Henderson.
                Usually I agree with you on many things my fellow Bears fan...but on this I do not.

                Players get injured every year and come back from them. Both those guys are doing well, but Mike Vick well? No.

                Michael Vick may have taken some wrong turns with his life, but that should not discredit what he has had to do and what he is doing now. Not many NFL players can come back after being out of the NFL for a year or two in jail. Especially at the QB position. And then to take advantage of the opprotunities like he has and to play at the level he has been playing at? Huge comeback.

                It's not only the performance, but it is also his re-inventing himself. He is a different QB than he was in ATL, he is playing like the QB everyone thought he would be.

                Coming back to the NFL better than before is enough to warrant CBPoY for me.

                Originally posted by BeansDooma
                who retires first: brett favre or aaron rodgers?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Rosebud View Post
                  Dogs are cute and all, but I still am blown away by just how much people flipped their **** about Mike Vick. Especially when you have murderers still playing in the NFL, Stallworth, Leonard Little, Ray Lew...in summation Dogs < People, ergo Mike Vick > any of the murders who've played in the NFL.
                  I agree with the fact that Lewis/Little/Stallworth are criminals, but it still doesn't make what Vick did right. He ****** up and paid his time, but the fact that he served his time and is back on the field shouldn't make him a feel good story. He is still a criminal, I love him as a player but that doesn't change my opinion on him as a person.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Don Vito View Post
                    I agree with the fact that Lewis/Little/Stallworth are criminals, but it still doesn't make what Vick did right. He ****** up and paid his time, but the fact that he served his time and is back on the field shouldn't make him a feel good story. He is still a criminal, I love him as a player but that doesn't change my opinion on him as a person.
                    What should make a feel good story, the same tired underdog finally makes it crap that we've been spoon fed since we were kids? Mike Vick ****** up really badly and did something disgusting. But unlike guys like Little, who's murdered 2 people, one after having already murdered a person, he learned his lesson and took that motivation to turn his life around and become something to aspire to. Not Mike Vick the dog killer, but Mike Vick the comeback player of the year and potential league MVP is certainly something kids should be inspired by. It's what americans **** their brains out over, someone getting a second chance and re-creating themselves to take advantage. He is a criminal, but the NFL has a lot worse people in this league than Vick, hell I'd even argue Big Ben is a bigger scumbag than Vick, and what he's done since his release is incredible. People who are actually reformed by prison instead of indoctrinated should be commended and Mike Vick is one such example.

                    Now excuse me while I go vomit because I've had to defend a ******* iggle.

                    BK

                    Originally posted by AcheTen
                    JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
                    Originally posted by abaddon41_80
                    Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
                    Originally posted by JBCX
                    Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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                    • #40
                      I don't think Little should have been allowed to keep playing either.

                      The sad thing is that these guys are role models for kids.

                      Originally posted by fenikz
                      His soft D really turns me off
                      ** RIP themaninblack. You will be missed. **

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by vidae View Post
                        I don't think Little should have been allowed to keep playing either.

                        The sad thing is that these guys are role models for kids.
                        No the sad thing is that the level of parenting in this country is so awful that these guys are role models for ANY kids.

                        BK

                        Originally posted by AcheTen
                        JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
                        Originally posted by abaddon41_80
                        Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
                        Originally posted by JBCX
                        Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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                        • #42
                          If Michael Vick can keep this up for 3-4 more years and not just be a one hit wonderm then not only would it be the greatest comeback, but it would justify his #1 pick selection overall.
                          How would it justify the #1 pick? He isn't with the Falcons anymore, he busted for them regardless of what he does now.

                          I don't particularly feel right giving Vick the comeback player award. He isn't actually coming back from anything but his own stupidity and disregard for the Law, not to mention that he came back last year and not this year.

                          Personally I think the comeback awards should be reserved more for overcoming injury or if you were forced into service or something similar to that, I'd rather see the award go to someone who has overcome adversity or done something to contribute to society rather than rewarding people for making awful decisions and then getting a second chance, for me the second chance is their reward.

                          Might just be me though...


                          Props to BK on the sig!

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Rosebud View Post
                            Dogs are cute and all, but I still am blown away by just how much people flipped their **** about Mike Vick. Especially when you have murderers still playing in the NFL, Stallworth, Leonard Little, Ray Lew...in summation Dogs < People, ergo Mike Vick > any of the murders who've played in the NFL.
                            This is another straw man. None of us are advocating Stallworth, Little, or Lewis for CBPotY, and none of us are clamoring for Vick to be thrown out. We just don't want to give the guy an award for doing disgusting, scumbag things. If he were this season's MVP (he's not), I'd say "ok, give him the MVP award." The MVP award has nothing to do with how much of a dirtbag you are.

                            He didn't overcome any kind of adversity. He just stopped killing things. That's not that big of an accomplishment. I've gone every day of my life without killing things. Where's my plaque?

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                            • #44
                              You shouldnt be rewarded for having to come back from going to jail because you ran a death ring.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Monomach View Post

                                He didn't overcome any kind of adversity. He just stopped killing things. That's not that big of an accomplishment. I've gone every day of my life without killing things. Where's my plaque?
                                18 months in prison where he got exercise for at most 60 minutes a day! To come back from that with, what seems like, not losing a step at all is ridiculous. Let alone to play in the NFL and become a potential MVP candidate is pretty much impossible.

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