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  • What team had the Best Rookie class this year?

    Four at the top of the pack, IMHO and in no particular order:

    Chiefs
    Patriots
    Bucs
    Eagles



    Note: Thread title says "Rookie class", not draft class.

    Discuss.

    "I don't do Pro Days, we send our scouts to those. I would rather spend my time watching film. The eye in the sky never lies. Functional Strength and athletic ability are the first things we look for in a college prospect." - Mark Dominik, Buccaneers GM

  • #2
    I hate these kinds of threads so I'll just say that all of these teams have had impressive rookie classes.

    Originally posted by fenikz
    His soft D really turns me off
    ** RIP themaninblack. You will be missed. **

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    • #3
      No love for the Browns who have Joe Haden, TJ Ward, and Colt McCoy.

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      • #4
        on the topic of rookiies is it just me or has the group of roookie TE's this year been unbelievable.Gresham, Hernandez, Gronkowski, Moeaki etc. this was a great class for TE's

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        • #5
          Originally posted by wonderbredd24 View Post
          No love for the Browns who have Joe Haden, TJ Ward, and Colt McCoy.
          Yeah, plus, add in Montario Hardesty who was supposed to be getting all of Hillis' carries.

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          • #6
            Tampa was very solid with Blount, Williams, and McCoy.

            Originally posted by SolidGold
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            Originally posted by Monomach
            Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin.  One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one.  Awesome.  Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks. 

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            • #7
              definitely not the bucs

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              • #8
                In no order

                Bengals
                Browns
                Lions
                Chiefs
                Pats
                Raiders
                Eagles
                Rams
                Bucs


                RIP themaninblack

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by vidae View Post
                  I hate these kinds of threads so I'll just say that all of these teams have had impressive rookie classes.
                  Yet you still opened it and made sure to post in it.

                  /rolls eyes




                  @ Wonderbred -
                  Cleveland should be there with the 4 I mentioned in the OP, with out a doubt. Good call

                  "I don't do Pro Days, we send our scouts to those. I would rather spend my time watching film. The eye in the sky never lies. Functional Strength and athletic ability are the first things we look for in a college prospect." - Mark Dominik, Buccaneers GM

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bullg8rdaddy View Post
                    Yet you still opened it and made sure to post in it.

                    /rolls eyes

                    It was started by a Bucs fan, so I figured it was at least good for a laugh.

                    Originally posted by fenikz
                    His soft D really turns me off
                    ** RIP themaninblack. You will be missed. **

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                    • #11
                      Patriots rookies that made an impact;

                      Devin McCourty- Pro Bowler in his first year. Really punished teams for throwing the deep ball on him and was thrown away from for a lot of the time late in the year. Also provided some help in run support and was a sure tackler.

                      Rob Gronkowski- Struggled early. Ran poor routes and dropped some very easy(and crucial) passes. The instant chemistry Brady seems to have with most pass catchers was not there with Gronk initially. One thing he did do extremely well right away was block. He and Alge Crumpler played a very large role in emergence of our run game. He picked it up at the end of the year as a receiver as well, particularly after the Browns game which he played a very large part in losing with a few key drops, a muffed kick, and a fumble. Back half of the year he was one of the more dependable receivers we had and honestly played at a Pro Bowl level. Should be an absolute stud going forward.

                      Jermaine Cunningham- He dealt with injuries throughout the year, especially early and late. For a time in the middle of the year, he was a very good pass rusher, but not a sack artist like we were all hoping for. Always seemed to get within feet of a quarterback on get an arm on them and then not end up wrapping up. But he did make an impact at times. The pick at the end of the Colts game can largely be attributed to him getting in there and causing Manning to loft up a duck. The jury is still out, but he showed some promise.

                      Brandon Spikes- One of the reasons Jerod Mayo reemerged as the impact player he was his rookie year. Perfect fit for our scheme, playing the Ted Johnson role. Took on fullbacks and tight ends all year and made a big difference in the run. The defense with him on the field and the defense with Guyton on the field is very, very different. Perhaps better against the pass, but not anywhere near as effective against the run. Should be a starter for years to come, even if it is as a two down player.

                      Aaron Hernandez- A big play waiting to happen. One of the better hybrid players in the league already. The type of plays he is capable of making after the catch are pretty rare. He is not an every down player or even as good of a player overall as Gronkowski is, but he's a valuable weapon. The only concern with him is that his hands are pretty questionable at times. When he's not coming back for the ball or it's not an easy catch, it's 50/50 with him. He's also not a very strong blocker, but he will get in someones way and not give them an easy time of getting to the ball carrier. It will be interesting to see how he develops going forward along with Gronkowski.

                      Dane Fletcher- Hero of the Green Bay game. Got a huuuuge sack on Matt Flynn on third down. It was a hell of a play by him that I really can't talk enough about. Started off zoned off to the weak side of the ball. He recognized the situation and realized that there was no one in the area and knifed in for the sack that killed that drive and put the Packers in desperation mode. Already a valuable third down linebacker because of his ability to play solid, smart coverage and now has sacks in back to back weeks.

                      Patriots Rookies that have received meaningful playing time;

                      Brandon Deaderick- Started 3(or 4?) games for us in the second half of the year. His footspeed is severely limited, but he plays his gaps well and takes up a lot of space when he's playing with good technique. He's been more than a depth player for us, but less than you would want from a starter. He could still end up being a long term starter for us in the end depending on coaching/improvements he makes. Dealt with some injuries late in the year and hasn't been playing lately.

                      Kyle Love- Started his first game for us last week at NT and really flashed a few times. Plays with a very low center of gravity and seems to be really strong. Could be a good depth player for us going forward.

                      Zoltan Mesko- Starting punter all year. He's helped with field position and looks like he'll stick around for a long time.


                      Honestly feel like we're right up there.
                      The rookies have been a massive, massive part of this team for the first time in years. Maybe I'm getting carried away because this is the first good draft class we've had in awhile, but we had such a stellar class from top to bottom.

                      R.I.P. Junior Seau

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                      • #12
                        Kansas City:

                        Eric Berry
                        Dexter McCluster
                        Tony Moeaki
                        Javier Arenas
                        Kendrick Lewis

                        Tampa:

                        Mike Williams
                        Arrelious Benn
                        Gerald McCoy
                        Cody Grimm

                        New England:

                        Aaron Hernandez
                        Rob Gronkowski
                        Zoltan Mesko
                        Jermaine Cunningham
                        Brandon Spikes
                        Devin McCourty
                        Dane Fletcher


                        are those the three best? New England's is ridiculously productive.

                        I like St.Louis, Detroit, Cincinnati and Cleveland's rookies too.

                        I think the Browns have potentially 4 future pro bowlers in their draft class between McCoy, Haden, Ward, and Hardesty (if Montario can get and stay healthy).

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                        • #13
                          It's ridiculous the amount of rookies in Tampa that contribute. Mark Dominik is a ******* vulture.

                          Williams, Blount, McCoy, Grimm, and Benn were pretty productive.

                          Starting now or here and there are Derek Hardman, Ted Larsen, Robert Malone, Erik Lorig, Dekoda Watson, and Al Woods.

                          Also seeing snaps recently or throughout the season, Brian Price, Preston Parker, Dezmon Briscoe, Larry Asante, and Myron Lewis.

                          Little known facts: Packers have a lot injuries, Buccaneers have a lot rookies.

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                          • #14
                            Anyone feel like posting some lists of the top 5-10 candidates? I like Clevelands and New Englands the most, probably. Kansas City did well, but they lose points because Eric Berry and Dexter McCluster get overrated because they were great prospects but haven't been lights out on the field. Don't hate KC fans, I'm not saying they are bad, they just haven't had the year 1 impact Cleveland and NE rookies did. Also, Tampa did good, but since Blount doesn't count, the rest don't stack up with the top couple teams.

                            Detroit gets mentioned because Suh is so ridiculous and Best was a good pick too, but as far as I know the rest haven't done anything. How is Jason Fox doing, Lions fans? He was one of my favorite prospects and I wanted him on the Packers.

                            Homer corner: Packers did well, somewhere between 10-15 I'd think. Bulaga has started almost all games as a rookie and has done a great job. As he's improved you have seen our running game and pass protection improve. Franchise tackle, don't know what side though.
                            Mike Neal and Morgan Burnett both looked good to very good but went on IR early.
                            Andrew Quarless was an excellent pick at TE. Very athletic and has contributed in the absence of Finley. Was supposed to be raw but consistently gets open and catches balls. Not as good as Gronkowski or Moeaki though has more upside.
                            C.J. Wilson has done an admirable though unspectacular job starting some games due to injuries.
                            UDFA Sam Shields is playing like a 2nd-3rd round pick at nickel CB, a spot he's held all year.
                            UDFA Frank Zombo has done very well opposite side of CM3 and started the majority of the season, but has limited upside.
                            UDFA Tom Crabtree has shared time with Quarless, he's our best blocking TE and a great special teamer and can catch the ball.

                            On second thought the Packers might deserve to be more in the 5-10 range. Sam Shields, Bryan Bulaga, and Frank Zombo have all been integral parts of the team. CJ Wilson, Quarless, and Crabtree have all contributed in significant ways. I know this draft class isn't going to blow anyone away but we've had rookies start more than the vast majority of teams and they have been anywhere from average to good. It doesn't stand out because it's mostly come from depth players that aren't making mistakes but aren't making big splashes either.

                            If just one of Mike Neal or Morgan Burnett come back and play at the level they were at, this class was a win. Depending on those 2 this draft ranges from a C to an A. Sam Shields was a real coup. I doubt there are any UDFAs playing better than him right now.
                            Last edited by umphrey; 12-30-2010, 04:13 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by umphrey View Post
                              Anyone feel like posting some lists of the top 5-10 candidates? I like Clevelands and New Englands the most, probably. Kansas City did well, but they lose points because Eric Berry and Dexter McCluster get overrated because they were great prospects but haven't been lights out on the field. Don't hate KC fans, I'm not saying they are bad, they just haven't had the year 1 impact Cleveland and NE rookies did. Also, Tampa did good, but since Blount doesn't count, the rest don't stack up with the top couple teams.
                              McCluster I'll give you but Berry is drastically better now then at the beggining of the year

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