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A lot of those "wins" were a result from his supporting cast. Travis Henry, the defense, the special teams, all played phenomenally well in most of those wins. Young, contributed to a few of those, but as with every QB, W-L record isn't an accurate quantifier. He has a ways to go, in terms of development. In fact, I think next year, Matt Schaub out-plays Vince Young. He doesn't have the upside, but he is much more polished, and will have a better supporting cast.
You also have to look at the fact that VY helped Herny and opened up the run game, the defense made plays on defense but still gave up ALOT of points and Young would have to lead the team down the field and set up GW FG's are TD Runs. It wouldn't really surprise me if Schuab out performs VY, but VY is hard to judge, just like Vick sometimes.
horrible for texans, just plain horrible. An awsome move by the Falcons though
It might be a good move for the Falcons, it really all depends on Vick. It's coming to the point where nobody knows if Vick will ever take the next step up as a quarterback. It might be interesting if Vick doesn't work out, would Petrino make a push next year for Brian Brohm. They've got the draft picks now to put them in position if they aren't drafting highly enough.
I wonder where Charlie Casserly and the Houston GM's rank in terms of the best/worst GM's in sports according to Forbes. If Kevin McHale and Billy King are top 3, where does Houston's management fit in?
I don't think they are thinking. They literally have needs all over the field. Surrendering that much for a QB that nobody knows what to expect from is just foolish. The team still has no running game, no second option in the passing game, and holes all over the defense at DT, WLB, S, CB.... it just goes on and on.
The Texans did add Ahman Green to their running game, Zgonina to their DL, and added Shawn Barber and Danny Clark as OLBs. I think the biggest need for this team as of now is a FS, Landry or Nelson would address that. Hopefully they can find a good CB and WR through the draft.
You don't rebuild your team by surrendering multiple draft picks for backup QB's. Ask Buffalo how smart it was to give up a #1 for Rob Johnson, or Miami giving up a #2 for AJ Feely. Giving up two #2's and trading down in the first round is even worse to me.
You may also want to ask how GB trading for Favre years back turned out.
I would say this clearly puts Atlanta in position to grab Landry, and he makes perfect sense for the team. As for Houston, they get their QB and they can still get a quality defender (Im thinkin Okoye) at 10. I would expect they use their 3rd rounder on a DB.
I hate Phil Martelli, but during the 2004 Selection Show, when Packer was going off on St. Joe's for getting a 1 seed despite a top 10 RPI and a 27-1 record, Martelli called him a "jackass" on national television. It was one of the best bball moments of my life...
Houston is a ridiculous. Carr is a better QB than Schuab. Way to waste two second round picks.
I strongly disagree with that. The consensus among NFL teams, also shows they don't see it that way. Which is why a mid-1st pick was the market value for Schaub, Carr would be lucky to garner a 3rd round pick.