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  • #46
    Lamont Jordan was pretty good as a backup. That is a fair comparison.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by BaLLiN72 View Post
      I'm just saying because all I saw was big runs, probably because I'm on the east coast, but I think he has potential, and Lamont Jordan is absolutely terrible, there is no way he's that bad
      Lamont Jordan was a great backup to Curtis Martin with the Jets and was constantly involved in trade rumors. There were even people advocating cutting or forcing retirement on Curtis Martin so that they wouldn't lose Jordan.

      It's easily to have a high YPC when you're only running the ball 7-8 times per game.

      I personally think Turner will be a good starting runningback (and don't think Jordan is terrible either) but to assume that just because he's done well as a backup to the best runningback in the league means that he'll do as well elsewhere is unfounded.

      And how old are you? Do you not remember Jordan pre-Raiders?


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      • #48
        Originally posted by Big Mike View Post
        I dont wanna see him on such a boring team like green bay.. i'd rather see him on a team like Tennessee or sumn but i guess noone else needs an RB
        What do u mean by Green Bay being a boring team? What exactly makes an NFL team boring? Just Curious.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
          Lamont Jordan was a great backup to Curtis Martin with the Jets and was constantly involved in trade rumors. There were even people advocating cutting or forcing retirement on Curtis Martin so that they wouldn't lose Jordan.

          It's easily to have a high YPC when you're only running the ball 7-8 times per game.

          I personally think Turner will be a good starting runningback (and don't think Jordan is terrible either) but to assume that just because he's done well as a backup to the best runningback in the league means that he'll do as well elsewhere is unfounded.

          And how old are you? Do you not remember Jordan pre-Raiders?
          That's kinda a low blow if somebody's on here and they don't remember Jordan as a Jet


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          • #50
            Originally posted by roughrider30 View Post
            What do u mean by Green Bay being a boring team? What exactly makes an NFL team boring? Just Curious.
            Maybe he doesn't like cheese.


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            • #51
              Originally posted by roughrider30 View Post
              What do u mean by Green Bay being a boring team? What exactly makes an NFL team boring? Just Curious.
              I don't think the Packers are very boring either. Favre still plays with a fire, and we are a very young and improving team.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                Maybe he doesn't like cheese.
                who doesn't like cheese?

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                  He has one more year on the team. You're asking for the value of a 1st round pick for a backup runningback that you're going to have for one more year.

                  Granted the Falcons fleeced the Texans but there are a few differences.

                  1)The Packers (unfortunately) aren't that stupid.
                  2)Teams take chances on QB's all the time. Runningbacks aren't worth nearly as much.
                  3)While Turner is a hot name, I would argue that the buzz around Schaub was even higher (albeit unjustifiably)
                  From your keyboard to God's monitor. I am OK with switching first and thirds as you are drafting the same number of players and picking up a good prospect at RB. Also, Packers could get a TE at the bottom of the first, or perhaps Leonard, whereas this year's TEs have dubious value in the first. TT also does not have the same value board as other teams and so he takes small-college players and unknowns higher than other teams because he believes his scouts and not combine numbers. Tony Moll went in the 5th and started ten games last year at RG/RT and wasn't even one of the 400 players profiled on this board. TT also loves to trade down, because a lot of the guys he's targeting are not rated as high on other team's boards.
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                  • #54
                    For what it's worth, IMO, Turner would start on a lot of teams, he's been unfortunate to be stuck behind one of the greats.

                    I don't pretend to know much about the Pack's team needs outside of RB, but looking at the crop of RB's in this years draft, whats not to like about getting Turner?

                    If I'm the Packer's GM, I'm interested.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by roughrider30 View Post
                      who doesn't like cheese?
                      Commies....

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                      they get smoked.

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                      • #56
                        The reason Tony Moll wasn't rated by many draftniks was because he made the transition late to OL. A lot of people knew about his raw skills, they just didn't know where to put him. But with a ZBS, they were willing to take a gamble on the skills and to develop him.

                        But back to the thread's point. I think Michael Turner is a good gamble to make if they don't think they can get either of the top 2 RB's. While he is of a similar build to LaMont Jordan and their running style is somewhat similar, Turner has a bit more pop and quickness, IMO, than Jordan (at relative physical points). I think Turner would be an excellent fit for the Packers.

                        What does he value at? Comparing to Schaub makes little sense outside of the RFA tender due to positioning. Also, comparatively, between positions, Schaub was valued more as a QB than Turner as a RB, IMO (but that's a hard thing to quantify, as there is no measure, so it's really just my opinion). There are some concerns with Turner, and RB's can be found.

                        Thomas Jones netted a swap of 2nd round picks that, depending on the draft value chart used, basically comes out as a high 3rd, although some charts may move it up to a late 2nd. Turner's upside and the fact that any team would sign him to a likely sign him to a long term deal, should bring about more value. A simple swap of 1st round picks probably isn't enough. My guess, and this is just a random guess, would be

                        a) a swap of 1sts, and San Diego gets the 109th

                        or

                        b) someone noted this already, a swap of 1sts and a swap of 3rds

                        Both equate to about the same value. If I'm San Diego, I would prefer the 2nd one. If I'm Green Bay, I'd do the first one. San Diego would get an early-mid 2nd value, while Green Bay would get a potential feature back, allowing them to wait until later to add a running back through the draft.

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                        • #57
                          As a Charger fan I have had the pleasure of seeing plenty of Michael Turner, and he is a FANTASTIC back. Check out this limited highlight reel of him: http://www.dailymotion.com/jcdavey/v...1idt5_turnburn

                          The kid runs so hard and never gets tackled by the first guy that hits him. Whoever gets him will be lucky, the Chargers front office and coaching staff absolutely love the kid and rave about him constantly.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by toonsterwu View Post
                            Both equate to about the same value. If I'm San Diego, I would prefer the 2nd one. If I'm Green Bay, I'd do the first one. San Diego would get an early-mid 2nd value, while Green Bay would get a potential feature back, allowing them to wait until later to add a running back through the draft.
                            Early-mid 2nd value for Turner? Edge and Alexander couldn't fetch a 2nd round pick two years ago, and Thomas Jones just fetched high 3rd-low 2nd value as you said earlier in this post. Does the fact that Turner is 25 not only completely make up for the fact that he's relatively unproven in the NFL, but make him more valuable than franchise caliber backs that are 3 years older?


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                            • #59
                              im glad some people are smart enough to realize that getting 8 carries behind a great back, its not hard to have a "guady" YPC, or get the long gains...


                              does he have potential? yes, alot of it, and he is talented...but its useless trying to post his YPC or stats in backup duty, id like to see how he does in green bay though...

                              on their side its smart, turner is better then every back aside from peterson who they have no chance of getting, he will have a greater impact then a late rd RB, and they need production this year...they dont seemed to be too interested in life after favre, so why not trade the picks for an impact back....package up moss, and they did a pretty nice job trying to make a final run





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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by ChargerCohen View Post
                                You would regret that **** my friend. Turner is a beast, I think any team would hate to see him enter their division. I guarantee that if Turner is a starter this coming year, he has a bigger impact than any rookie RB other than maybe AD.
                                And i love him, and I know he's going to do a super job. He is most definately worth a first and a third.

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