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  • #61
    Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
    Really? A couple of times eh? You sure about that?

    Cause as I recall, the immortal rushing machine known as Brandon Jacobs ran for a whopping NINE YARDS that game. Nine yards. He went "untouched several times" yet he only ran the ball twice, for nine yards.


    Back to the drawing board....
    2 rushes for 9 yards.

    Both TDs.

    Both times, untouched, right up the gut.

    Tiki had 19 touches for 141 yards. Mostly cutbacks up the gut...

    Ok, so maybe in my mind I exaggerrated how many times he touched it, but I do remember him going untouched in that game. Urlacher had a clear shot at him and backed down. In the redzone of all places.

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    • #62
      Oh ok. So clearly he's overrated and shys away from bigger runners because he missed a tackle one time on Brandon Jacobs.

      By the way, one reason why teams run up the gut against is because they can't run outside. Wonder why that is...


      Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
        Oh ok. So clearly he's overrated and shys away from bigger runners because he missed a tackle one time on Brandon Jacobs.

        By the way, one reason why teams run up the gut against is because they can't run outside. Wonder why that is...
        And cost me 500 cheeseburgers, yes. I could be eating one right now if it wasn't for Urlacher.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by dcarey20 View Post
          lol ray lewis overrated

          I guess it really depends on were people rank Ray. I consider him a top 5 MLB. His leadership is amazing. It shows how much he means to our defense when Ray was out and Travis Henry ran all over us and when Ray was in we had a top D in the NFL.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Eagles own the NFC East View Post
            who do you guys think is the most overated at each position?

            QB- Tony RoHOMO
            RB- Shaun Alexander
            FB- Mike Alstott

            WR- Santana Moss
            WR- Randy Moss

            TE- Tony Gonzalez
            no offensive lineman are overated imo

            DE- Dwight Freeney
            DT- Anthony McFarland
            DT- Warren Sapp
            DE- Osi

            LOLB-Shawn Merriman
            MLB- Ray Lewis
            ROLB- Cato June

            CB- Ty Law
            SS- Roy Williams
            FS- ?????
            CB- Charles Woodson

            who would you guys put?
            Warren Sapp? He is considered by most to be over the hill, yet somewhow he lead all DT in sacks this past season with 10, so if anything he was underrated this past year. If you said he was overrated the 3 years before then I would have agreed with you, but this year he stepped up his game.

            Also, putting Gonzo and Lewis on there is just ridiculous, despite getting older they are some of the top players in the game at their positions.

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            • #66
              As much as i hate Shaun Alexander he is hardly overrated. An MVP cant be overrated regardless.

              fenikz

              "Pride comes before the fall" - Mark Dantonio

              35-21

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Eagles own the NFC East View Post
                who do you guys think is the most overated at each position?

                QB- Tony RoHOMO
                RB- Shaun Alexander
                FB- Mike Alstott

                WR- Santana Moss
                WR- Randy Moss

                TE- Tony Gonzalez
                no offensive lineman are overated imo

                DE- Dwight Freeney
                DT- Anthony McFarland
                DT- Warren Sapp
                DE- Osi

                LOLB-Shawn Merriman
                MLB- Ray Lewis
                ROLB- Cato June

                CB- Ty Law
                SS- Roy Williams
                FS- ?????
                CB- Charles Woodson

                who would you guys put?
                So basically you are saying that every player that used to be a star and has declined is overrated? Do you ignore past achievements? Most of that list is filled with guys who are over 30 and still start but have declined a bit, and I think that is an unfair way to rate someone. The rest of the list is guys who are far from overrated, except for maybe Romo & June.

                sig by BoneKrusher

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Eagles own the NFC East View Post
                  who do you guys think is the most overated at each position?

                  QB- Tony RoHOMO
                  RB- Shaun Alexander - BAD
                  FB- Mike Alstott - BAD

                  WR- Santana Moss - BAD
                  WR- Randy Moss

                  TE- Tony Gonzalez - BAD
                  no offensive lineman are overated imo

                  DE- Dwight Freeney - BAD
                  DT- Anthony McFarland
                  DT- Warren Sapp - BAD
                  DE- Osi

                  LOLB-Shawn Merriman - BAD
                  MLB- Ray Lewis - BAD
                  ROLB- Cato June

                  CB- Ty Law - BAD
                  SS- Roy Williams - BAD
                  FS- ?????
                  CB- Charles Woodson - BAD

                  who would you guys put?
                  well i dont like half your list

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                  • #69
                    bears fan why you have to make him a dawkins sig :(

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                    • #70
                      Couldn't think of a whole team so i thought of people that havn't been mentioned that imo are overrated
                      RB - M Turner
                      Wr - Randle El
                      TE - V Davis
                      OLB - J Porter
                      MLB - T brushci
                      Last edited by excanuck; 03-25-2007, 06:20 PM.

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                      • #71
                        Michael Vick. He sucks, but yeat he makes the Pro Bowl every year.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                          Ok, I can specifically point out the few times Jacobs got the ball against you guys this past year. If you look back at it, he went untouched several times. In fact, he said he would run right at Urlacher during the week, and he kept his promise. He did run right at him, and Urlacher didn't even challenge him. He just let him go right up the gut. K know, I know, we lost. Got our butts kicked in the 2nd half. Why on earth did Jacobs get so few touches that game, only Tom Coughlin knows.

                          Ive also seen Duckett get the best of him.

                          From what I recall, Lewis would usually win the war against George. Maybe Im basing my opinions too heavily on their playoff games, but from what I saw, Ray held it down.

                          When did that happen? I don't remember it.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Eagles own the NFC East View Post
                            who do you guys think is the most overated at each position?

                            QB- Tony RoHOMO
                            RB- Shaun Alexander
                            FB- Mike Alstott

                            WR- Santana Moss
                            WR- Randy Moss

                            TE- Tony Gonzalez
                            no offensive lineman are overated imo

                            DE- Dwight Freeney
                            DT- Anthony McFarland
                            DT- Warren Sapp
                            DE- Osi

                            LOLB-Shawn Merriman
                            MLB- Ray Lewis
                            ROLB- Cato June

                            CB- Ty Law
                            SS- Roy Williams
                            FS- ?????
                            CB- Charles Woodson

                            who would you guys put?
                            Romo...oh yeah he only led a team back on the brink of extinction basically. I can agree w/ Alexander. Alstott is considered as great as he was so hes not exactly overated. Santana Moss? he makes Brunell look good and jumps over people 2to3 inches taller than him. Randy Moss is older and is no longer considerd great like Alstott, maybe TO. Gonzalez? Seriously, the best TE since Winslow I. I can see Freeny and June, but they did win the super bowl. Ray Lewis? Where did you come up w/ that idea? I can see Williams, but not Woodson, the guys been hurt and the Packers D was better partly because of him.



                            Sig thanks to Bonekrusher

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                            • #74
                              QB - Roethlesburger (exsposed after all the true leaders start to leave a great team)
                              RB - Willis McGahee (cant block, run inbetween the tackles, horrible YPC)
                              WR - Chris Chambers (drops his own first born child because of butter fingers)
                              WR - Braylon Edwards (dude is an athlete, but not a great WR, cant catch in any important situation)
                              TE - Vernon Davis (nonody has got a true feel for him yet, but hes better without pads and worse with them on (meaning actual games))
                              DE - Freeney (can only pass rush, usually runs himself out of 90% of all plays)
                              CB - Deangelo Hall (for how fast he is, he talks to much and I allways catch him getting beat)
                              S - Roy Williams (cant cover a boat with a tarp)
                              S - Sean Taylor (gave up 2nd most TD's out of all the NFL DB's, should be a LB)


                              Dont get me wrong, if all these players were on the same team it would be scary, but they get more credit than they deserve and there weaknesses usually hurt there teams as much as there strengths help.

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                              • #75
                                i love the philly bias. i mean alot are questionable but Osi? $20 says he cant spell his last name without looking it up lol(trust me i can). i mean the guy played 1 full year, and what? led the NFC in sacks? he got hurt this year, but still played well when healthy despite constant double teams.
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                                BTW, if it's 3rd and 97... I'm throwing a screen pass to Brian Leonard and he will convert.

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