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  • bigbluedefense
    started a topic The Jack Lambert Appreciation Thread

    The Jack Lambert Appreciation Thread

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=CMNetYOTQrA

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_La...an_football%29

    Yes, Im bored, but Lambert deserves his own thread.

    He's easily a top 2 MIKE in NFL history in my opinion. Its between him and Butkus. Most say Butkus, but Im not so sure. Part of me says Lambert was better, but its awfully close either way.

    For the youngins, since we've been talking about the history of the game the past 2 days, I figured you would like to see one of the best defensive players in NFL history do what he does.

    Let's marvel in his physical intensity.
    Last edited by bigbluedefense; 03-29-2007, 11:30 AM.

  • Rob S
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    Lambert is actually a cousin of mine, how kick ass is that!

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  • bigbluedefense
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    Originally posted by njx9
    that is one dusty field. the groundskeepers should be fired.
    Im guessing it was a baseball field that some teams play on.

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  • bigbluedefense
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    Dammit people, no more feminism in this thread. Take your hippie idealogies and we are the world bs to off topic.



    Back on topic.

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  • someone447
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    Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
    No, you just don't understand what the traditional definition is. You can't take a stab at me. Not when it comes to this.

    And I would say that 80-85% of people do empathize (I'm guessing that is what you meant) with the fact that women are still paid less and are less likely to recieve promotions than men are. Whether or not they are actively trying to change that is another story. I'm very strongly against genocide, that doesn't mean I'm going to Sudan anytime soon.
    There is a legitimate reason that women are paid less and promoted less then men. It is a proven fact that women take more time off work(granted it is maternity leave) then men do. It is also proven that women are in lower paying professions on average. Doctors, Lawyers, etc are all primarily men. Teachers are primarily women. Notice why the average amount a woman makes is less?

    Women 25 years of age and over have been with their current employer 4.4 years, on average, compared to 5.0 years for men.


    Women are also more likely to work part-time. In 2000, one-quarter of all women employees worked part-time, compared to less than 10 percent of men.

    Among people ages 27 to 33 who have never had a child, women's earnings approach 98 percent of men's. So fine, there is a VERY slight difference when everything is equal.

    http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba392/

    You guys are using different definitions of feminism. BF51, you are using the traditional definition. Feminism hasn't been run by traditional feminists since probably before the 70's. If you ask someone what they consider feminism, the VAST majority would talk about the bra burning feminists, or feminazi's. The feminazi's are a plague on the traditional notion of feminism, which in itself is a good thing. But once you start getting the women who want men to be discriminated against, is where you have a problem.

    Stoner, that is exactly how I feel. If women want completely equal rights, sign up with selective services. There are some things that men are better at then women, period. Physical activities for one. Make all those jobs have the same criteria for men and women. I'll take your example of firefighters. I want to know that if I am unconcious in a burning building, EVERY SINGLE ONE of those firefighters are able to carry me out. If a woman has to meet lower standards, those standards better still be enough to carry an almost 200 lb man out of a burning building if the job so requires.

    Sanders had a mediocre, at best, offensive line during his entire career. Not to mention, he was on the most inept franchise in league history.
    Last edited by someone447; 03-29-2007, 06:20 PM.

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  • bearsfan_51
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    Originally posted by The Unseen View Post
    Then you're warping the definition of feminism. I believe it is understood when you mean "feminist" that you mean someone who emphasizes women's rights and actively tries to advance such. The 80-85% percent who you are talking about are people off the street who say "Yeah, I'm for women's rights." They don't count in the traditional definition.

    Eh, we really shouldn't be talking about this, but I had to take a stab...
    No, you just don't understand what the traditional definition is. You can't take a stab at me. Not when it comes to this.

    And I would say that 80-85% of people do empathize (I'm guessing that is what you meant) with the fact that women are still paid less and are less likely to recieve promotions than men are. Whether or not they are actively trying to change that is another story. I'm very strongly against genocide, that doesn't mean I'm going to Sudan anytime soon.

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  • The Unseen
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    Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
    You guys have a really warped idea of what most feminists are like. In fact, I would argue that about 80-85% of the population of the U.S, as ignorant as it is, are feminists. It just gets a bad rep because of the way it's portrayed.
    Then you're warping the definition of feminism. I believe it is understood when you mean "feminist" that you mean someone who emphasizes women's rights and actively tries to advance such. The 80-85% percent who you are talking about are people off the street who say "Yeah, I'm for women's rights." They don't count in the traditional definition.

    Eh, we really shouldn't be talking about this, but I had to take a stab...

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  • The Unseen
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    Originally posted by yourfavestoner View Post
    Not to seem overly assholeish, but this whole idea of feminism is amusing to me. What I'm about to say isn't something I openly advocate. Just pointing out some inconsistencies.

    If everybody wants women to be viewed as men's "equals," yet they want more severe punishments for hitting a woman instead of a man.

    Also, in order to get a job as, say, a police officer, one must pass a variety a physical tests. The qualifications for women are far, far easier than those that men are forced to pass.

    If feminists are really clamoring for equality, then it should be equality throughout everything. Is it really fair to let women pick and choose the parts that they want to be equal, and then use the rest to their advantage?
    QFT.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled program...

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  • bearsfan_51
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    You guys have a really warped idea of what most feminists are like. In fact, I would argue that about 80-85% of the population of the U.S, as ignorant as it is, are feminists. It just gets a bad rep because of the way it's portrayed.

    In regards to physical abuse, women that cause physical harm to their partners are equally prosecuted. The fact is that most men will not report that out of embaressment because of how macho our society is. It's the same thing with cases of underage sex. It's not women that aren't equally prosecuting it, in fact they are much more virulent, it's men that think 30 year old women that sleep with 14 year old boys are "cool".
    Last edited by bearsfan_51; 03-29-2007, 05:50 PM.

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  • yourfavestoner
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    Originally posted by njx9
    i think, in comparison to any other running back you'd consider even top 20, it was likely the worst collection of overall talent (though i'm open to discussion). i'd also say that, as a result of the schemes run, a fair number of the plays weren't your typical drive block plays that would have given barry a wide open lane to run through. the run and shoot offense wasn't really known so much for being a great "run" offense. barry never even had a fullback until his later years, something that is basically unheard of today.
    At the same time, though, the run-n-shoot offense should have been ideal for a back like Barry, as it spreads the defense out and opens up huge cutback lanes.

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  • bigbluedefense
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    Originally posted by njx9
    i think, in comparison to any other running back you'd consider even top 20, it was likely the worst collection of overall talent (though i'm open to discussion). i'd also say that, as a result of the schemes run, a fair number of the plays weren't your typical drive block plays that would have given barry a wide open lane to run through. the run and shoot offense wasn't really known so much for being a great "run" offense. barry never even had a fullback until his later years, something that is basically unheard of today.
    That is all true. I can't deny the sucktitude of the Lion's front office and their inept coaching.

    RB is a toughy. Id go with Brown, but I guess a legit argument can be made for Sanders.

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  • yourfavestoner
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    Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
    Ugh...I HATE feminists. But let's leave that out of this thread. I propose you make a separate thread on that in off topic.
    I don't even want to, as I doubt people on here would even care. In fact, I don't even care that much. I just feel like if you're going to ***** about wanting equality, then you better not complain when you get total equality.

    Now - resume thread. Sorry for hijacking.

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  • bigbluedefense
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    Originally posted by yourfavestoner View Post
    Not to seem overly assholeish, but this whole idea of feminism is amusing to me. What I'm about to say isn't something I openly advocate. Just pointing out some inconsistencies.

    If everybody wants women to be viewed as men's "equals," yet they want more severe punishments for hitting a woman instead of a man.

    Also, in order to get a job as, say, a police officer, one must pass a variety a physical tests. The qualifications for women are far, far easier than those that men are forced to pass.

    If feminists are really clamoring for equality, then it should be equality throughout everything. Is it really fair to let women pick and choose the parts that they want to be equal, and then use the rest to their advantage?

    Ugh...I HATE feminists. But let's leave that out of this thread. I propose you make a separate thread on that in off topic.

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  • yourfavestoner
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    Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
    I can do whatever I want. I could care less if players do drugs or aren't nice people, gamble, carry guns, "make it rain", whatever. However, if you beat women or drive drunk you are not eligible for any sort of praise from me. Be lucky you aren't in jail and leave it at that.
    Not to seem overly assholeish, but this whole idea of feminism is amusing to me. What I'm about to say isn't something I openly advocate. Just pointing out some inconsistencies.

    If everybody wants women to be viewed as men's "equals," yet they want more severe punishments for hitting a woman instead of a man.

    Also, in order to get a job as, say, a police officer, one must pass a variety a physical tests. The qualifications for women are far, far easier than those that men are forced to pass.

    If feminists are really clamoring for equality, then it should be equality throughout everything. Is it really fair to let women pick and choose the parts that they want to be equal, and then use the rest to their advantage?

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  • bigbluedefense
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    Originally posted by njx9
    i don't buy that barry ever had an o-line. he didn't have NO o-line (lomas brown was a pretty good LT), but it wasn't collectively ever better than mediocre.
    It was average. Maybe a little below average. Not 2007 Oakland Raider bad though.

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