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  • #91
    Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
    I like how we highjacked this thread and took it completely off topic.

    Good work men.
    Nobody else remains to post since nobody sees how 'nfc quarterbacks' translates to this... quite funny.

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    • #92
      McNabb is clearly the best QB in the NFC East if not the whole NFC, when healthy. If he stays healthy, the Eagles will again dominate the Division, if not they will struggle.

      Eli plays for a HC who believes strongly in the run. Still he has made the playoffs 2 out of his 3 years in the league. It will be very interesting to see if his HC turns to him more now that Barber has retired and opens up the passing game. I think his best years are still ahead of him but his OL has become suspect and his HC is definitely on the hot seat. Could turnout to be a real mess in New York.

      Campbell is just coming into his own. He's never going to be a spectacular QB but Gibbs will never ask him to be one, just a great game manager. If Washington's pass rush can be upgraded this season, they should at least contend for a Super Bowl appearance. This should be Campbell's year to shine.

      Romo is in tough. A lot of high expectations for him without a dominate HC like Parcells who could deflect the criticism. Just have to see which direction he goes in. Nothing is written in stone with Romo.
      And proud of it!!!

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Addict View Post
        Nobody else remains to post since nobody sees how 'nfc quarterbacks' translates to this... quite funny.
        Eh whatever. This discussion was better than 95% of the discussion on these forums wheter it was on topic or not.

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        • #94
          Well, I have to help DMW fend off BBD, Jughead, #10 and bsaza....

          Just kidding.

          The bottom line is that Romo isn't as good as we thought. Eli isn't as good as NYG thought. Campbell isn't as good as Snyder thought and McNabb is better than Limbaugh thought.

          The Eagles are the top 1 or 2 run franchises in the NFL. They should remain the favorite in the division.

          Both the Giants and the Cowboys hopes rely on the defense this year, NOT the Quarterback. Average QB play will get both of them in the playoffs with above average Defensive play (which they both should have).

          The Redskins MUST have exceptional play from Campbell to get into the playoffs. Not exceptional stats necessarily with Portis and Betts getting alot of playing time next year. He needs efficiency and very low turnover numbers. Their Defense will be average at best next year. They need efficient offense to make the playoffs.

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          Originally posted by DMWSackMachine
          I just wanna warn you guys not to take TNew41 too seriously. He's....let's just say, special. He's fairly harmless, though. He just needs several years of seasoning before he tries to make any more points, is all.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Jughead10 View Post
            Eh whatever. This discussion was better than 95% of the discussion on these forums wheter it was on topic or not.
            I wasn't complaining, I was constatating. Subtle difference.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by LSUALUM99 View Post
              Well, I have to help DMW fend off BBD, Jughead, #10 and bsaza....

              Just kidding.

              The bottom line is that Romo isn't as good as we thought. Eli isn't as good as NYG thought. Campbell isn't as good as Snyder thought and McNabb is better than Limbaugh thought.

              The Eagles are the top 1 or 2 run franchises in the NFL. They should remain the favorite in the division.

              Both the Giants and the Cowboys hopes rely on the defense this year, NOT the Quarterback. Average QB play will get both of them in the playoffs with above average Defensive play (which they both should have).

              The Redskins MUST have exceptional play from Campbell to get into the playoffs. Not exceptional stats necessarily with Portis and Betts getting alot of playing time next year. He needs efficiency and very low turnover numbers. Their Defense will be average at best next year. They need efficient offense to make the playoffs.
              Hey now. I actually didn't even say one thing about Romo for once in this thread. Good or bad

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              • #97
                I also did not mention Romo until now.



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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Number 10 View Post
                  See, now this is why these threads get out of hand. I, in no way was making a comparison to Manning and Romo but being the insecure Cowboys fan you are, you feel that throwing out numbers that can't be taken seriously because of the situations they were thrown into down the stretch was needed. I was simply implying that Romo really struggled down the stretch (last 5 games) and that is usually the case when young QBs have early. Defenses figure out their weaknesses and exploit them and it is up the coaching staff and QB himself to minimize those exploitations. Romo did not do that down the stretch, that's all.
                  Um, why would me trying to bring some perspective to a bunch of horsesh** talk make the thread get out of hand? Doesn't make any sense to me. This is a thread devoted (until BBD's crew took the wheel and made a hard left :P) to discussing NFC East QBs. If you can't take your QB's performance being stacked up against the performance of another QB, then what are you doing in a thread like this?

                  I am curious how you feel you can substantiate your claims that "throwing out numbers that can't be taken seriously because of the situations they were thrown in" and, more importantly, that Romo "struggled down the stretch". So, tell me exactly what the first quote means, and then show me your proof for how Romo struggled down the stretch. I am raptly attentive.
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                  He was protecting his self
                  Originally posted by tjsunstein
                  From what? His leg?
                  Originally posted by Paranoidmoonduck
                  That leg has had it out for him since day 1.
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                  • #99
                    To be fair, Romo and Campbell haven't even started a full season yet. We should probably wait to seriously discuss all NFL QBs' merits and weaknesses until midway through this season, which will mark about 16 total starts for all of these QB's.



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                    • Originally posted by DMWSackMachine View Post
                      Um, why would me trying to bring some perspective to a bunch of horsesh** talk make the thread get out of hand? Doesn't make any sense to me. This is a thread devoted (until BBD's crew took the wheel and made a hard left :P) to discussing NFC East QBs. If you can't take your QB's performance being stacked up against the performance of another QB, then what are you doing in a thread like this?

                      I am curious how you feel you can substantiate your claims that "throwing out numbers that can't be taken seriously because of the situations they were thrown in" and, more importantly, that Romo "struggled down the stretch". So, tell me exactly what the first quote means, and then show me your proof for how Romo struggled down the stretch. I am raptly attentive.
                      My point is that we were discussing that Romo did not play well in December, and then I see Eli Manning's stats over the last 4 games. What the hell does that have to do with a discussion about Romo and his dropoff in play? You know what I think it is? I think it's a defensive Cowboys fan trying to put attention elsewhere because all of you reached some sort of emotional peak with Romo's early performance, only to be brought back down to earth. Thus, pointing to Eli's struggles down the stretch (which were definitely poor) made you personally feel better. Yes this is an NFC East thread, but we dove into an analysis if you will concerning Romo, and Romo only.

                      As for my quotes that bothered you

                      1-Comparing the situations of the two teams down the stretch is not entirely fair. They played a similar strength of schedule, yes....but Romo was not missing his LT and was not missing his most reliable WR. The Cowboys #2 and #3 WRs were much eaiser to work with than the likes of Tim Carter, David Tyree, Michael Jennings, whoever else you want to throw in there. Yet they still had similar numbers in December.

                      2-Romo's last 5 games were well below the standard he was put at after his hot start. Watching those games, he did not appear nearly as confident in the pocket and his ball security took a major nosedive.
                      Originally posted by Paul
                      Eli's opportunity to become a legend.
                      Originally posted by Vikes99ej
                      These last 50 seconds will define Eli Manning.
                      MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

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                      • I did say just kidding in the second paragraph.....

                        Also, I wasn't commenting on other people's statements as much as answering the original topic of discussion.

                        That being said, I've heard several Coaches say in some of the more candid interviews that what a QB is doing around starts 20-25 are about what he's going to do for the remainder of his career.

                        In various threads over the past year I've broken down how QB's have progressed through the years and that seems to be pretty accurate. There are some that have progressed and some that have regressed, but the vast majority seem to fall into the Dennis Green theory (they are who we thought they were) about that time.

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                        Originally posted by DMWSackMachine
                        I just wanna warn you guys not to take TNew41 too seriously. He's....let's just say, special. He's fairly harmless, though. He just needs several years of seasoning before he tries to make any more points, is all.

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                        • I think Romo will only get better, because of 3 things:

                          1. Experience
                          2. Go through a full training camp as a starter, gaining him better chemistry with his recievers.
                          3. Our offensive line is much improved.

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                          • Originally posted by GiantRutgersFan View Post
                            how does Eli have a hard time making plays with the game on the line????? that is his calling card. the man is clutch as hell and turns it on in the fourth quarter and runs a fantastic 2 minute drill
                            I can't believe i forgot to check back on this thread....so this is a couple pages late but wow...do you really believe that?

                            It was some two minute drill he ran against Tennessee...and some clutch game he had against New Orleans...and Jax...and Chicago...yeah...

                            clutch?

                            Edit: He also has a career 4th quarter rating of 72.1 .... with more INT than TD being thrown.
                            Last edited by JK17; 04-03-2007, 05:44 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by JK17 View Post
                              I can't believe i forgot to check back on this thread....so this is a couple pages late but wow...do you really believe that?

                              It was some two minute drill he ran against Tennessee...and some clutch game he had against New Orleans...and Jax...and Chicago...yeah...

                              clutch?

                              Edit: He also has a career 4th quarter rating of 72.1 .... with more INT than TD being thrown.
                              At what point did Eli screw up against New Orleans with the game on the line? Jax? Chicago?

                              He had bad games against them yes, but he did not screw up with the game on the line.
                              Originally posted by Paul
                              Eli's opportunity to become a legend.
                              Originally posted by Vikes99ej
                              These last 50 seconds will define Eli Manning.
                              MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

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                              • Originally posted by Number 10 View Post
                                At what point did Eli screw up against New Orleans with the game on the line? Jax? Chicago?

                                He had bad games against them yes, but he did not screw up with the game on the line.
                                Yeah I realized that after I posted I was just looking at bad games which didn't really answer GRF obejction at all, which is why I added his 4th quarter rating to emphasize my point. The tennesse game tho is still my best example. I don't think it's fair to say that eli plays his best with the game on the line though..

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