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  • #46
    Originally posted by Achilles33 View Post
    There you go, coming from one of the best posters on the site. Newman gets overlooked because he doesn't get a ton of picks, but that shouldn't be the case. I expect him to have a good amount of picks because Wade Phillips will get us a lot of pressure, while shutting down his man completely (thrown a 2.37 times per game, best in the NFL). Hopefully Newman finally gets his due this year, and gets a pro-bowl bid.

    Anyway, don't get me wrong, Samuel is a good player, but he is not in the elite class of CB's, atleast not yet.
    I beg to differ. Samuel is in the elite class of cornerbacks. I can only think of a handful I would rate ahead of him for sure.

    Also, Newman is about 3 years older than Samuel which is another reason I picked Samuel.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Achilles33 View Post
      There you go, coming from one of the best posters on the site. Newman gets overlooked because he doesn't get a ton of picks, but that shouldn't be the case. I expect him to have a good amount of picks because Wade Phillips will get us a lot of pressure, while shutting down his man completely (thrown a 2.37 times per game, best in the NFL). Hopefully Newman finally gets his due this year, and gets a pro-bowl bid.

      Anyway, don't get me wrong, Samuel is a good player, but he is not in the elite class of CB's, atleast not yet.
      I will tell you myself Samuel is not better then Newman, but if I'm running a Tampa 2 I'll take Samuel.

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      • #48
        Vilma couldn't touch Urlacher's jock. Especially in a cover 2. Are you kidding me?


        Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Achilles33 View Post
          There you go, coming from one of the best posters on the site. Newman gets overlooked because he doesn't get a ton of picks, but that shouldn't be the case. I expect him to have a good amount of picks because Wade Phillips will get us a lot of pressure, while shutting down his man completely (thrown a 2.37 times per game, best in the NFL). Hopefully Newman finally gets his due this year, and gets a pro-bowl bid.

          Anyway, don't get me wrong, Samuel is a good player, but he is not in the elite class of CB's, atleast not yet.
          as far as im concerned..theres only 2 elite corners. Bailey and McAlister

          then theres a borderline of great/elite which holds: Newman, Samuel, Clements, Mathis to name a few


          whered u get the "2.37 times per game" stat? Samuel is not all about the picks..thats how he got national attention but even if he deflected them instead of pciking them off,id say hes a very good corner in the making. I'll give it to you, Samuel has done it 1 year at a very high level while Newman has done it 2-3. and our defense did not get a lot of pressure FYI..i dont recall having to see a QB run and throw in a hurry a lot but this year should with some players healthier and addition of Thomas

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          • #50
            Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
            Vilma couldn't touch Urlacher's jock. Especially in a cover 2. Are you kidding me?
            My selection of Vilma was based soley on age.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by remix 6 View Post
              as far as im concerned..theres only 2 elite corners. Bailey and McAlister

              then theres a borderline of great/elite which holds: Newman, Samuel, Clements, Mathis to name a few


              whered u get the "2.37 times per game" stat? Samuel is not all about the picks..thats how he got national attention but even if he deflected them instead of pciking them off,id say hes a very good corner in the making. I'll give it to you, Samuel has done it 1 year at a very high level while Newman has done it 2-3. and our defense did not get a lot of pressure FYI..i dont recall having to see a QB run and throw in a hurry a lot but this year should with some players healthier and addition of Thomas

              How do you say them without saying Sheppard, and Hall,


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              • #52
                Originally posted by Big Mike View Post
                How do you say them without saying Sheppard, and Hall,
                Sheppard I agree with, but Hall? No way!

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                • #53
                  Wow guys. Hall has a solid rookie season. He has a great 2nd season. The first half of his 2nd season is great as well, and then he is beat deep a couple of times in the 2nd half of the season.

                  But hey, the fact that his pass rushing DE, John Abraham, started 5 games out of the last 8 has no reason as to why that happened. And what about his other Pro Bowl DE? Oh, he only played for 1 game in the 2nd half of the season. And what about pass rushing specialist DT Rod Coleman? He had turf toe all season and was not at full strength. The fact that DeAngelo Hall couldnt cover with all those injuries to the front 4 is absurd.

                  And the fact that neither of the safeties could cover deep has nothing to do with the long passes on the Falcons.

                  Lets not forget the DC either. The same guy that let 4th and 26 happen was the DC for the Falcons. All he does is play soft zone and make Hall play zone coverage when he clearly struggles against it and is a top5 man to man corner.

                  You guys are seriously overblowing Hall's 2nd half of the season.

                  "He's the leader of the next great class of NFL players." - John Elway on Matt Ryan

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                  • #54
                    DE- Cullen Jenkins
                    DT- Vince Wilfork
                    DT- Ryan Pickett
                    DE- Aaron Kampman

                    OLB- AJ Hawk
                    OLB- Abdul Hodge
                    OLB- Nick Barnett

                    CB- Rashued Mathis
                    CB- Charles Woodson
                    FS- Nick Collins
                    SS- Kerry Rhodes

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by PACKmanN View Post
                      DE- Cullen Jenkins
                      DT- Vince Wilfork
                      DT- Ryan Pickett
                      DE- Aaron Kampman

                      OLB- AJ Hawk
                      OLB- Abdul Hodge
                      OLB- Nick Barnett

                      CB- Rashued Mathis
                      CB- Charles Woodson
                      FS- Nick Collins
                      SS- Kerry Rhodes


                      I wonder which team you root for

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                      • #56
                        DE Richard Seymour
                        DT Vince Wilfork
                        DE Kevin Williams

                        OLB Kamerion Wimbley
                        ILB Nick Barnett
                        ILB Derrick Johnson
                        OLB Thomas Davis

                        CB Champ Bailey
                        FS Ed Reed
                        SS Sean Taylor
                        CB Rashean Mathis

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                        • #57
                          3-4

                          RE: Richard Seymour
                          NT: Jamal Williams
                          LE: Aaron Smith

                          ROLB: Adalius Thomas
                          RILB: DeMeco Ryans
                          LILB: Brian Urlacher
                          LOLB: Shawne Merriman

                          CB: Champ Bailey
                          CB: Nate Clements

                          FS: Sean Taylor
                          SS: Troy Polamalu

                          Impenetrable.....

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                          • #58
                            3-4

                            DE Richard Seymore
                            NT Jamal Williams
                            DE Mario Williams
                            OLB DeMarcus Ware
                            ILB DeMeco Ryans
                            ILB D.J. Williams
                            OLB Shawne Merriman
                            CB Nate Clements
                            CB Champ Bailey
                            S Ed Reed
                            S Sean Taylor

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                            • #59
                              a traditional 4-3

                              DE-Jullius Peppers
                              DT-John Henderson
                              DT-Tommie Harris
                              DE-Dwight Freeney
                              OLB-John Vilma
                              MLB-Brian Urlacher
                              OLB-Adalius Thomas

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                              • #60
                                4-3
                                DE: Julius Peppers
                                DT: Jamal Williams
                                DT: Marcus Stroud
                                DE: Jason Taylor

                                LOLB: Shawne Merriman
                                MLB: Brian Urlacher
                                ROLB: Julian Peterson

                                CB: Champ Bailey
                                CB2: Deangelo Hall
                                CB3: Chris McAlister
                                SS: Ed Reed
                                FS: Brian Dawkins

                                3-4
                                DE: Julius Peppers
                                DT: Jamal Williams
                                DE: Jason Taylor

                                LOLB: Shawne Merriman
                                MLB: Ray Lewis
                                MLB: Brian Urlacher
                                ROLB: Demarcus Ware

                                CB: Champ Bailey
                                CB2: Rashean Mathis
                                CB3: Ty Law
                                SS: Troy Polamalu
                                FS: Brian Dawkins

                                =]

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