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  • Originally posted by bigbluedefense
    How on Earth has Dallas's Poll results skyrocketed? They were a distant 3rd just like 2 hours ago...now they have the most votes? How did that happen in a span of 2 hours?
    You honestly couldn't figure out how?
    Originally posted by Paul
    Eli's opportunity to become a legend.
    Originally posted by Vikes99ej
    These last 50 seconds will define Eli Manning.
    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

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    • I imagine the coward Texico (who's been deleted) is responsible. He bragged to me about have 50+ accounts. So if there's any poll that's ridiculously Cowboy favored, blame that coward.

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      • Originally posted by Go_Eli
        Originally posted by M.O.T.H.
        Well, I've heard differently about Eli, I've heard at times he has looked sharp but, accuracy wise he looks about the same or a little better than last year. The odd thing is, every Giant report about him says he's much improved but, then you go outside of that and other scouts are saying he looks exactly the same and he tends to stare certain guys down. I personally believe Eli, is the most overrated QB in the NFL, I do however believe he will be phenominal one day. I guess you could say the jury is still out on him for this year, Giants say one thing and NFC East scouts say something else, I guess we will see as the regular season comes around.
        Redskin, Cowboy, or Eagles fans telling you that?

        And btw...who exactly is overrating Eli Manning? Knowledge Giant fans aren't, knowledge NFL fans, and the media sure aren't. So who exactly is?
        Are you kidding? Eli is so grossly overrated it is ridiculous now, there are even so called experts out there that say he is better than Peyton. It's a joke, he has not done anything to show that he is a top QB except throw for a lot of yards and the only reason he did that was because he had Plax catching all his high passes and Tiki catching screens and swings all game. If he didnt have Plax, he wouldnt have thrown for 50% last year and yet some how he is mentioned in the top tier of Qb's now, it doesnt make any sense. Eli, is also terribly overrated among Giants fans on this board, how you can rank him higher than Mccnabb or Bledsoe? You take Bledsoe's and Manning's numbers from last year, all Eli has on him is yards and it's not by many. Eventhough Bledsoe has the additions of a brand new line and arguably the best WR in the league ,T.O., Giants fans will still rank Eli higher :? not very logical at all.

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        • Originally posted by Ward
          I imagine the coward Texico (who's been deleted) is responsible. He bragged to me about have 50+ accounts. So if there's any poll that's ridiculously Cowboy favored, blame that coward.
          ahh that explains why all of the all nfldc player teams were so favored towards the Cowboys. Oh well, I had already had enough of his Who's the Best Player in [insert franchise] history? topics.

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          • Originally posted by bigbluedefense
            How on Earth has Dallas's Poll results skyrocketed? They were a distant 3rd just like 2 hours ago...now they have the most votes? How did that happen in a span of 2 hours?
            Same thing happened when we were doing that all NFLDC team for LG. Larry Allen was last and then in like a minute he got 20 votes out of knowhere.

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            • Originally posted by M.O.T.H.
              Originally posted by Go_Eli
              Originally posted by M.O.T.H.
              Well, I've heard differently about Eli, I've heard at times he has looked sharp but, accuracy wise he looks about the same or a little better than last year. The odd thing is, every Giant report about him says he's much improved but, then you go outside of that and other scouts are saying he looks exactly the same and he tends to stare certain guys down. I personally believe Eli, is the most overrated QB in the NFL, I do however believe he will be phenominal one day. I guess you could say the jury is still out on him for this year, Giants say one thing and NFC East scouts say something else, I guess we will see as the regular season comes around.
              Redskin, Cowboy, or Eagles fans telling you that?

              And btw...who exactly is overrating Eli Manning? Knowledge Giant fans aren't, knowledge NFL fans, and the media sure aren't. So who exactly is?
              Are you kidding? Eli is so grossly overrated it is ridiculous now, there are even so called experts out there that say he is better than Peyton. It's a joke, he has not done anything to show that he is a top QB except throw for a lot of yards and the only reason he did that was because he had Plax catching all his high passes and Tiki catching screens and swings all game. If he didnt have Plax, he wouldnt have thrown for 50% last year and yet some how he is mentioned in the top tier of Qb's now, it doesnt make any sense. Eli, is also terribly overrated among Giants fans on this board, how you can rank him higher than Mccnabb or Bledsoe? You take Bledsoe's and Manning's numbers from last year, all Eli has on him is yards and it's not by many. Eventhough Bledsoe has the additions of a brand new line and arguably the best WR in the league ,T.O., Giants fans will still rank Eli higher :? not very logical at all.
              Oh brother.

              Show me where anyone with credibility ranks Eli over Peyton. Then do with the same with McNabb. Bledsoe and Eli is debatable according to some Cowboys fans.
              Originally posted by Paul
              Eli's opportunity to become a legend.
              Originally posted by Vikes99ej
              These last 50 seconds will define Eli Manning.
              MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

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              • Well by "experts" I meant some of the posters on here, just check out the Eli vs Peyton thread or whatever it's called. The point I'm trying to make is that he is indeed overrated, he hasnt done anything to deserve such praise. He shouldnt be mentioned in the top tier of QB's yet, although he is, even with credible sports analysts. As for the whole Bledsoe/Eli debate, the only thing I believe Eli has on Bledsoe is a little more mobility, that is it.

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                • Originally posted by M.O.T.H.
                  Well by "experts" I meant some of the posters on here, just check out the Eli vs Peyton thread or whatever it's called. The point I'm trying to make is that he is indeed overrated, he hasnt done anything to deserve such praise. He shouldnt be mentioned in the top tier of QB's yet, although he is, even with credible sports analysts. As for the whole Bledsoe/Eli debate, the only thing I believe Eli has on Bledsoe is a little more mobility, that is it.
                  There is not a single credible poster here that would place Eli anywhere close to the elite QBs in the league. Many will put him in the top 10 and rightfully so. He led the Giants to an 11-5 record while winning the NFC East in his first season as a starter. He played exceptionally well late in games when his team needed him to come through. He went through flashes of absolute dominance but because he is young and green when it somes to the NFL, he will not be considered amonst the elite for awhile. Anyone that puts him in the top 5 is insane and I have yet to see anyone here do it. Please show me where credible sports analysts rank him in the elite class.
                  Originally posted by Paul
                  Eli's opportunity to become a legend.
                  Originally posted by Vikes99ej
                  These last 50 seconds will define Eli Manning.
                  MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

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                  • Originally posted by Number 10
                    Originally posted by M.O.T.H.
                    Well by "experts" I meant some of the posters on here, just check out the Eli vs Peyton thread or whatever it's called. The point I'm trying to make is that he is indeed overrated, he hasnt done anything to deserve such praise. He shouldnt be mentioned in the top tier of QB's yet, although he is, even with credible sports analysts. As for the whole Bledsoe/Eli debate, the only thing I believe Eli has on Bledsoe is a little more mobility, that is it.
                    There is not a single credible poster here that would place Eli anywhere close to the elite QBs in the league. Many will put him in the top 10 and rightfully so. He led the Giants to an 11-5 record while winning the NFC East in his first season as a starter. He played exceptionally well late in games when his team needed him to come through. He went through flashes of absolute dominance but because he is young and green when it somes to the NFL, he will not be considered amonst the elite for awhile. Anyone that puts him in the top 5 is insane and I have yet to see anyone here do it. Please show me where credible sports analysts rank him in the elite class.
                    I dont think I could find an actual link for you. Just try watching NFL Live, SC, or some kind of show like that, every now and then they'll rank the players and everyone seems to have Eli in the top 5-8 now a days. I'm done with this argument, we are not going to agree on anything. I'm just not as high on him as everyone is, a couple of years down the road, yeah he may be the best. As of of right now, I think too many people are overrating him based on the fact that he threw for so many yards last year, I believe he will have a really tough time and be the Giants downfall this season, we shall see.

                    I appreciate your thoughts and input.

                    Thanks BoneKrusher^

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                    • Originally posted by M.O.T.H.
                      Originally posted by Number 10
                      Originally posted by M.O.T.H.
                      Well by "experts" I meant some of the posters on here, just check out the Eli vs Peyton thread or whatever it's called. The point I'm trying to make is that he is indeed overrated, he hasnt done anything to deserve such praise. He shouldnt be mentioned in the top tier of QB's yet, although he is, even with credible sports analysts. As for the whole Bledsoe/Eli debate, the only thing I believe Eli has on Bledsoe is a little more mobility, that is it.
                      There is not a single credible poster here that would place Eli anywhere close to the elite QBs in the league. Many will put him in the top 10 and rightfully so. He led the Giants to an 11-5 record while winning the NFC East in his first season as a starter. He played exceptionally well late in games when his team needed him to come through. He went through flashes of absolute dominance but because he is young and green when it somes to the NFL, he will not be considered amonst the elite for awhile. Anyone that puts him in the top 5 is insane and I have yet to see anyone here do it. Please show me where credible sports analysts rank him in the elite class.
                      I dont think I could find an actual link for you. Just try watching NFL Live, SC, or some kind of show like that, every now and then they'll rank the players and everyone seems to have Eli in the top 5-8 now a days. I'm done with this argument, we are not going to agree on anything. I'm just not as high on him as everyone is, a couple of years down the road, yeah he may be the best. As of of right now, I think too many people are overrating him based on the fact that he threw for so many yards last year, I believe he will have a really tough time and be the Giants downfall this season, we shall see.

                      I appreciate your thoughts and input.
                      I watch those shows too and NONE OF THEM ever place Eli before Peyton, or any of the other elite QBs in the league. Some he may turn out to be better, but none of them say he is currently better. Ranking him in the top 8 is feasible, I have him between there and 10. I understand that you think he may be awful last year, but understand that your reasoning for calling him overrated is invalid.
                      Originally posted by Paul
                      Eli's opportunity to become a legend.
                      Originally posted by Vikes99ej
                      These last 50 seconds will define Eli Manning.
                      MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

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                      • Originally posted by Number 10
                        Originally posted by M.O.T.H.
                        Originally posted by Number 10
                        Originally posted by M.O.T.H.
                        Well by "experts" I meant some of the posters on here, just check out the Eli vs Peyton thread or whatever it's called. The point I'm trying to make is that he is indeed overrated, he hasnt done anything to deserve such praise. He shouldnt be mentioned in the top tier of QB's yet, although he is, even with credible sports analysts. As for the whole Bledsoe/Eli debate, the only thing I believe Eli has on Bledsoe is a little more mobility, that is it.
                        There is not a single credible poster here that would place Eli anywhere close to the elite QBs in the league. Many will put him in the top 10 and rightfully so. He led the Giants to an 11-5 record while winning the NFC East in his first season as a starter. He played exceptionally well late in games when his team needed him to come through. He went through flashes of absolute dominance but because he is young and green when it somes to the NFL, he will not be considered amonst the elite for awhile. Anyone that puts him in the top 5 is insane and I have yet to see anyone here do it. Please show me where credible sports analysts rank him in the elite class.
                        I dont think I could find an actual link for you. Just try watching NFL Live, SC, or some kind of show like that, every now and then they'll rank the players and everyone seems to have Eli in the top 5-8 now a days. I'm done with this argument, we are not going to agree on anything. I'm just not as high on him as everyone is, a couple of years down the road, yeah he may be the best. As of of right now, I think too many people are overrating him based on the fact that he threw for so many yards last year, I believe he will have a really tough time and be the Giants downfall this season, we shall see.

                        I appreciate your thoughts and input.
                        I watch those shows too and NONE OF THEM ever place Eli before Peyton, or any of the other elite QBs in the league. Some he may turn out to be better, but none of them say he is currently better. Ranking him in the top 8 is feasible, I have him between there and 10. I understand that you think he may be awful last year, but understand that your reasoning for calling him overrated is invalid.
                        I never said that they ranked him over Peyton, I thought I cleared that up. I've seen him ranked in the top 5 a couple of times and I do believe he is overrated, is he a top 10 Qb? I'm not even sure about that one, his accuracy was abysmal last season and despite his 60% comp. percentage in the preseason he hasnt looked overly impressive or anything. From what I gathered thus far is that he is still the inconsistant Qb he was a year ago, the first game he looked good, second game he looked great, and then the third game he didnt look so hot. Yes, he is probably improved himself in some areas and maybe I'm reading to much into his preseason play but, so far he doesnt look that much better or any more consistant than he was one season ago. Personally, I would take 10 Qb's maybe more in front of Eli at this point. Hey but, thats just me.

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                        • Originally posted by M.O.T.H.
                          Originally posted by Number 10
                          Originally posted by M.O.T.H.
                          Originally posted by Number 10
                          Originally posted by M.O.T.H.
                          Well by "experts" I meant some of the posters on here, just check out the Eli vs Peyton thread or whatever it's called. The point I'm trying to make is that he is indeed overrated, he hasnt done anything to deserve such praise. He shouldnt be mentioned in the top tier of QB's yet, although he is, even with credible sports analysts. As for the whole Bledsoe/Eli debate, the only thing I believe Eli has on Bledsoe is a little more mobility, that is it.
                          There is not a single credible poster here that would place Eli anywhere close to the elite QBs in the league. Many will put him in the top 10 and rightfully so. He led the Giants to an 11-5 record while winning the NFC East in his first season as a starter. He played exceptionally well late in games when his team needed him to come through. He went through flashes of absolute dominance but because he is young and green when it somes to the NFL, he will not be considered amonst the elite for awhile. Anyone that puts him in the top 5 is insane and I have yet to see anyone here do it. Please show me where credible sports analysts rank him in the elite class.
                          I dont think I could find an actual link for you. Just try watching NFL Live, SC, or some kind of show like that, every now and then they'll rank the players and everyone seems to have Eli in the top 5-8 now a days. I'm done with this argument, we are not going to agree on anything. I'm just not as high on him as everyone is, a couple of years down the road, yeah he may be the best. As of of right now, I think too many people are overrating him based on the fact that he threw for so many yards last year, I believe he will have a really tough time and be the Giants downfall this season, we shall see.

                          I appreciate your thoughts and input.
                          I watch those shows too and NONE OF THEM ever place Eli before Peyton, or any of the other elite QBs in the league. Some he may turn out to be better, but none of them say he is currently better. Ranking him in the top 8 is feasible, I have him between there and 10. I understand that you think he may be awful last year, but understand that your reasoning for calling him overrated is invalid.
                          I never said that they ranked him over Peyton, I thought I cleared that up. I've seen him ranked in the top 5 a couple of times and I do believe he is overrated, is he a top 10 Qb? I'm not even sure about that one, his accuracy was abysmal last season and despite his 60% comp. percentage in the preseason he hasnt looked overly impressive or anything. From what I gathered thus far is that he is still the inconsistant Qb he was a year ago, the first game he looked good, second game he looked great, and then the third game he didnt look so hot. Yes, he is probably improved himself in some areas and maybe I'm reading to much into his preseason play but, so far he doesnt look that much better or any more consistant than he was one season ago. Personally, I would take 10 Qb's maybe more in front of Eli at this point. Hey but, thats just me.
                          Name them. And reasons why.
                          Originally posted by Paul
                          Eli's opportunity to become a legend.
                          Originally posted by Vikes99ej
                          These last 50 seconds will define Eli Manning.
                          MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

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                          • I find it pointless to give you indivisual explanations on each player. Just look at what they have done in the league and there is no way you can rank Eli higher than any of these guys.

                            1. Peyton Manning
                            2. Tom Brady
                            3. Carson Palmer
                            4. Matt Hasselback
                            5. Trent Green
                            6. Donavan Mcnabb
                            7. Jake Delhomme
                            8. Drew Bledsoe
                            9. Kurt Warner
                            10. Daunte Culpepper

                            Look at every Qb here, all have exceptional completion percentages and they all read defenses with ease. I dont know how you can make an argument that Eli is better than any of these Qbs right now.

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                            • I would take Kurt off of that and add Big Ben.

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                              • Originally posted by draftguru151
                                I would take Kurt off of that and add Big Ben.
                                i totally spaced on Big Ben but, I'm just saying there are atleast 10 Qbs better than Eli out there.

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