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  • #61
    Chad Johnson is a good WR but i think most people associate him as a superstar wr because of his over the top personality. I think if Johnson was more low key with his personality we wouldnt really think of him as one of the top WR in the league. Hines Ward definatly underated he is in a offense that is mostly based on the running game i think if hines were on a offense such as the old rams or even the current bangels i think his numbers would be atleast 200 - 500 yards more a season.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Jonathan_VIlma
      Hines Ward is slowly becoming one of the most overrated receivers in the game just because he's a "feel good" story. He's a good blocker, but both Keyshawn and Boldin are better yet never get the credit for it.

      CJ is explosive, and I don't get how everyone is saying they'd take Hines Ward as a player. It's not like Chad Johnson is a Terrell Owens type player in the clubhouse. He is definitley a leader and has helped the outbreak of Carson Palmer more than most of you think. If he had such a drop problem he wouldn't continually put up 90 catch seasons. Ward has good hands, but Johnson's problem isn't his hands, it's a concentration thing.

      Add in the fact that the Bengals are near a lock to be a top three offensive team this year, whereas the Steelers aren't.
      he is probbly the cocky'ist player in the nfl and he threw a punch at his coach at halftime

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      • #63
        Hines is overrated? When people assume the best aspects of his game are blocking and being a team leader then I'd have to say he's underrated. Hines has a pair of the best hands in the league, he simply does not drop very many balls and has made some pretty amazing catches (SB shoe string grab), he does that all the time though. He's constantly making those plays. He's not fast yet he gets open, he's a great route runner. I've also seen him put a 300+lb lineman on his ass. You don't have to think he's better than Chad but take the time to watch him more than once and you'll realize he is one of the top recievers in the game.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by RamonceTaylorThaGreat
          not even close, hard to match CJ in EVERY aspect of the WR position that he possess...


          speed
          agility
          hands
          quickness


          he is top 5 in the NFL at every one, i cant say the same about ward...

          I agree with the other three, but the "hands" part is off.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by psub10champs
            Originally posted by GermaineRace
            Hines Ward is one of the most overrated WR in the league, if not the most.

            He isn't Top 10 and everyone always has him in the Top 10

            Johnson
            TO
            Moss
            Holt
            Wayne
            Harrison
            Fitzgerald
            Bolden
            Walker - when healthy
            Smith
            You seriously need to stop posting. HOW IS HINES OVERRATED!!! Please tell me. He is underrated if anything. Your a browns fan, so number 1 you are biased, number two, well, I can't say what I want anymore, or otherwise you'll cry to ward.
            Being a Browns fan is completely irrelevant because the Browns are in the same division as BOTH the Steelers and the Bengals.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by yourfavestoner
              Originally posted by psub10champs
              Originally posted by GermaineRace
              Hines Ward is one of the most overrated WR in the league, if not the most.

              He isn't Top 10 and everyone always has him in the Top 10

              Johnson
              TO
              Moss
              Holt
              Wayne
              Harrison
              Fitzgerald
              Bolden
              Walker - when healthy
              Smith
              You seriously need to stop posting. HOW IS HINES OVERRATED!!! Please tell me. He is underrated if anything. Your a browns fan, so number 1 you are biased, number two, well, I can't say what I want anymore, or otherwise you'll cry to ward.
              Being a Browns fan is completely irrelevant because the Browns are in the same division as BOTH the Steelers and the Bengals.
              Uh... yeah but the Browns HATE the Steelers. Back in the day it was the best rivalry in the land. Its kind of hard for the new school Steeler fans to hate the Browns though... because they always suck.

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              • #67
                Chad Johnson has the better skills, but Hines Ward has the better atitude.


                Thanks to jackalope

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                • #68
                  They are not that far apart. Although if Johnson had better hands he'd make a case for best in the league. 23 Drops in two years, ouch.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by portermvp84
                    Chad Johnson has the better skills, but Hines Ward has the better atitude.
                    i love 85 attitude :D

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Shiver
                      They are not that far apart. Although if Johnson had better hands he'd make a case for best in the league. 23 Drops in two years, ouch.

                      To re-emphasize this point, Ward had 8 Drops in the same period of time.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by psub10champs
                        Originally posted by danman253
                        Well Psub, i think its safe to say i have won this arguement
                        whatever, I said I'd rather have Ward and I still would. I don't care what the poll says, your being a doosh for posting this argument on a forum anyway
                        Well, that's a different arguement entirely. I'm assuming you said this because of Chad Johnson's antics, not based on purely talent?


                        The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.

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                        • #72
                          CJ is clearly the better WR. Hines is a good blocker and has slightly better hands but i think blocking is a very overrated skill for a reciever. sure its very helpful but CJ's big play threat is so much more valuable.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by draftguru151
                            Originally posted by primetime21335
                            Originally posted by Jonathan_VIlma
                            Hines Ward is slowly becoming one of the most overrated receivers in the game just because he's a "feel good" story. He's a good blocker, but both Keyshawn and Boldin are better yet never get the credit for it.
                            After the bold, I quit reading...
                            :roll: Why? Keyshawn is a very good blocker. :? Blocking WRs are so overrated anyway. Yea it is nice for a WR to block, but I would much rather have a great receiver that is a bad blocker than a good receiver that is a great blocker.

                            Keyshawn is not better than Ward, shouldn't even be a question, that's why you should have topped reading that at that point.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Dam8610
                              Originally posted by psub10champs
                              Originally posted by danman253
                              Well Psub, i think its safe to say i have won this arguement
                              whatever, I said I'd rather have Ward and I still would. I don't care what the poll says, your being a doosh for posting this argument on a forum anyway
                              Well, that's a different arguement entirely. I'm assuming you said this because of Chad Johnson's antics, not based on purely talent?
                              yeah, I can't stand that idiot. Cocky bastard with a ****** attitude who I loathe

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by yourfavestoner
                                Originally posted by psub10champs
                                Originally posted by GermaineRace
                                Hines Ward is one of the most overrated WR in the league, if not the most.

                                He isn't Top 10 and everyone always has him in the Top 10

                                Johnson
                                TO
                                Moss
                                Holt
                                Wayne
                                Harrison
                                Fitzgerald
                                Bolden
                                Walker - when healthy
                                Smith
                                You seriously need to stop posting. HOW IS HINES OVERRATED!!! Please tell me. He is underrated if anything. Your a browns fan, so number 1 you are biased, number two, well, I can't say what I want anymore, or otherwise you'll cry to ward.
                                Being a Browns fan is completely irrelevant because the Browns are in the same division as BOTH the Steelers and the Bengals.
                                Hmmm. Or the fact that the browns-steelers have arguiably the most hate filled rivalry in all of football. Maybe that would lead to him (browns fan) being biased against ward (steelers player)

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