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  • #91
    The funny thing about it is, Carr was known as a guy who held onto the ball too long coming out of college. So it's not like him ending up on his back all the time in Houston was a surprising development

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    • #92
      Alright signing, we could see Delhome and Carr battling it out for the starting job.


      Thanks to jackalope

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      • #93
        Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
        I think ive come up with an answer to this question.

        This is a draft website. So many times, we see players with great measureables being overrated by people on this site. Thats because its a draft website. The average poster here puts too much emphasis on measureables and thinks that players with great measureables are almost always great players, when that is simply not true.

        And thats why Carr gets a pass. He was supposed to be great. He has all the measureables you look for.

        But measureables are the most overrated aspect of qb'ing. And so many people fail to see that. Look no further than this draft as a perfect example. JaMarcus Russell MUST be the #1 pick. I mean, he could throw it 80 yards!!!

        ...forget the fact that his work ethic isn't great, nor is his decision making. All that goes out the window. He can fling it, and he's gonna be the #1 pick because of his "ceiling".

        And if he busts, you better believe that the same Carr sympathizers will show up at Russell's doorstep. Blaming Oakland's front office, coaching, oline etc. Because anytime a great athlete disappoints, we make extra excuses for him. His athleticism meant he was supposed to be great. And when it doesn't work out that way, we look for excuses. We look to point the finger at someone else. It can't be HIS fault. Thats just how we think as draftniks.
        Very poignant analysis of why people do and don't defend QBs. I like David Carr because cars go fast! Vrooooom!

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        • #94
          David Carr has never been in a position to succeed until now. That's why.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
            I think ive come up with an answer to this question.

            This is a draft website. So many times, we see players with great measureables being overrated by people on this site. Thats because its a draft website. The average poster here puts too much emphasis on measureables and thinks that players with great measureables are almost always great players, when that is simply not true.

            And thats why Carr gets a pass. He was supposed to be great. He has all the measureables you look for.

            But measureables are the most overrated aspect of qb'ing. And so many people fail to see that. Look no further than this draft as a perfect example. JaMarcus Russell MUST be the #1 pick. I mean, he could throw it 80 yards!!!

            ...forget the fact that his work ethic isn't great, nor is his decision making. All that goes out the window. He can fling it, and he's gonna be the #1 pick because of his "ceiling".

            And if he busts, you better believe that the same Carr sympathizers will show up at Russell's doorstep. Blaming Oakland's front office, coaching, oline etc. Because anytime a great athlete disappoints, we make extra excuses for him. His athleticism meant he was supposed to be great. And when it doesn't work out that way, we look for excuses. We look to point the finger at someone else. It can't be HIS fault. Thats just how we think as draftniks.

            Good analysis. Many Detroit fans thought that Harrington would flourish once away from Detroit, instead he was a 1 and out, one more year and out of the NFL. People just don't seem to understand that great QB's don't always have great OL's but they produce wins anyways. Carr didn't, hence he's not a great QB by any definition and never will be.
            And proud of it!!!

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            • #96
              Originally posted by yourfavestoner View Post
              Something I just thought of that I've brought up in David Carr threads before...

              What exactly is the difference between Carr and his Tedford product counterpart Joey Harrington? Why is Carr given every excuse in the world, yet people rip on Harrington?
              Harrington had more tools than Carr and didn't do much better. Over the yrs. Harrington was sacked less than half the times DC was. Harrington had steady coaching, at least more steady than DC. Basically Carr was set up for failure, but did a comparable job to Harrington who had a better chance to succeed. Hence logic would follow that if they were both put in similar enviroments Carr would do better.

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              • #97
                If David Carr started could he be able to take the Panthers to the playoffs?


                Thanks to jackalope

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                • #98
                  Carr could ride DeAngelo Williams to the playoffs if nessecary
                  Coors cold hard facts: Adrian Peterson runs like a little girl. Brady Quinn can't throw on the run. Josh Wilson is going to be a star. CJ is perfect.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by datchapin View Post
                    Harrington had more tools than Carr and didn't do much better. Over the yrs. Harrington was sacked less than half the times DC was. Harrington had steady coaching, at least more steady than DC. Basically Carr was set up for failure, but did a comparable job to Harrington who had a better chance to succeed. Hence logic would follow that if they were both put in similar enviroments Carr would do better.
                    How did Harrington have more steady coaching? Marty Mornigweg was a horrible coach and Steve Marriucci tried to stick a sqaure peg (Harrington) into a round hole (the West Coast Offense). David Carr gets all the excuses in the world. Nothing is ever his fault. He isn't any different from Harrington and everyone will see that after he fails in his second stop.

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                    • Originally posted by portermvp84 View Post
                      If David Carr started could he be able to take the Panthers to the playoffs?
                      LOL. Good one. The dude will never have a winning season as a 16 game starter...EVER. For ANY TEAM. He's simply no good.

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                      • Originally posted by BlindSite View Post
                        David Carr has never been in a position to succeed until now. That's why.
                        Whatever team has had David Carr as their QB has never been in a position to succeed....until now (The Texans).

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                        • Originally posted by Patriots-Lions View Post
                          How did Harrington have more steady coaching? Marty Mornigweg was a horrible coach and Steve Marriucci tried to stick a sqaure peg (Harrington) into a round hole (the West Coast Offense). David Carr gets all the excuses in the world. Nothing is ever his fault. He isn't any different from Harrington and everyone will see that after he fails in his second stop.
                          Steve Mariucci was a what before he became the coach of the Lions? A QB coach, an offensive coordinator. An offensive minded indivual who knew how to run an offense. 3 yrs. he worked with Harrington. Three yrs. he provided Harrington with better protection and better receivers than Carr ever had. Harrington was sacked less than half the time that DC was, yet missed more games. You wanna talk about incompetent coaching, after the season Carr threw for 3500 yds. (A stat Harrington hasn't come anywhere close to yet.) you know what the coaching staff did?

                          They decided to implement new protection scheme, those schemes weren't that good. You know what they did then, they scrapped those schemes after the pre-season and decided to improve on the fly. They failed, then you know what they did, they fired the offensive coordinator and promoted a guy who had no experience whatsoever with QB's to be the offensive coordinator. After that season they bring in a new coaching staff, a rookie coaching staff. Once again Carr is put on the spot and you know what he was the bright spot for a part of the season, but then o-line guys started going down, 3 starters gone by the end of the season, both tackles and center. You put any QB in that situation, I don't care if it's Manning or Brady or Palmer or whoever. They wouldn't have much success either. Now they let Carr walk to be fair to him and bring in a new QB without a history with them to start fresh and people think that automatically means Carr sucks?

                          There's a reason that Carr is with the Panthers and not Harrington, throughout their careers Carr has shown he has more potential.

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                          • I think I'm going to let the panthers front office move history speak for itself.

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                            • could the pathers move up in the draft? they can send there 11 and Jake Delhomme to the Lions? or to the Vikings?

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                              • Originally posted by PACKmanN View Post
                                could the pathers move up in the draft? they can send there 11 and Jake Delhomme to the Lions? or to the Vikings?
                                Delhomme is their starting QB

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