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  • #46
    Originally posted by Geo View Post
    No FGs is insipid imo. You're removing kickers, paid members of football rosters like Robbie Gould and Adam Vinatieri, from the game.
    Yet, people want to go to College's system; where Punters, and Return Specialists are excluded. Either you keep it as is, or something is going to have to change.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Geo View Post
      No FGs is insipid imo. You're removing kickers, paid members of football rosters like Robbie Gould and Adam Vinatieri, from the game.
      I would rather have the offense and defense decide a sudden death game than the kickers. Like what Chris said a few posts up, with one big play a team can be in position to win the game. I don't personally like that, but I do see where you're coming from as far as taking out that part game being unfair to the teams whose kickers are very good.

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      • #48
        To be fair, I never mentioned any support for the college system, Shiver. I feel the same way in that regard, why exclude potential playmakers from the pro game like Devin Hester.

        I believe it was a few years ago when Eddie Drummond had a monster game on returns, including a big one in overtime, which helped Mariucci's Lions win a road game. He's a part of the roster like a quarterback or cornerback.

        As I said in an earlier post, keep it as is. If it must be changed, play a 7-1/2-minute overtime period to completion to keep the same pressure to win on coaching staffs. In the latter scenario, a pick six actually wouldn't end the game, as we saw in the Seattle @ Green Bay playoff game from a few years back.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Geo View Post
          To be fair, I never mentioned any support for the college system, Shiver. I feel the same way in that regard, why exclude potential playmakers from the pro game like Devin Hester.

          I believe it was a few years ago when Eddie Drummond had a monster game on returns, including a big one in overtime, which helped Mariucci's Lions win a road game. He's a part of the roster like a quarterback or cornerback.

          As I said in an earlier post, keep it as is. If it must be changed, play a 7-1/2-minute overtime period to completion to keep the same pressure to win on coaching staffs. In the latter scenario, a pick six actually wouldn't end the game, as we saw in the Seattle @ Green Bay playoff game from a few years back.

          That's how I feel, at least.
          If you thought I was including you in the 'College system!1!' crowd, you misunderstood. If they were to drastically change the OT system, I prefer my plan, rather than the college system. Of which, I called "nonsensical" in my original post. Ideally, I think they shouldn't change things this severely. The NFL is ridiculously popular. Dramatically changing rules would be a mistake, which is why it will never happen.

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          • #50
            I like Shiver's idea, but I think field goals should still be allowed in OT, just not allowed to win the game. If all a team can muster is a FG, then their defense should have to completely stop the opposing offense to win the game.


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            • #51
              Yeah, maybe to evolve Shiver's idea, it could be the first to 6 points wins. That way, you get a TD, you win. You get a FG, you don't, and you'll have to kick another one.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by frisby213 View Post
                Yeah, maybe to evolve Shiver's idea, it could be the first to 6 points wins. That way, you get a TD, you win. You get a FG, you don't, and you'll have to kick another one.

                Or if the first team gets a FG, the other team gets it, and if all they can get is a FG, it's a tie. Or they have an XFL-style 1-on-1 race from the goal line to midfield between 2 players, and then whoever gets the ball at midfield has to try to score. And if you get tackled by the other guy, you lose the ball. Yeah.


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                • #53
                  This is is seriously ridiculous. If a defence cant step up and force the O to punt, they shouldn't win the game. If we gave each team a possesion, we would be dragging out the game. Honestly, people are whining that there O never got to see the field, maybe the team should have won it in regulation. There is nothing with the system, your team is just sucks when it really counts.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by CutlerChris View Post
                    Or if the first team gets a FG, the other team gets it, and if all they can get is a FG, it's a tie. Or they have an XFL-style 1-on-1 race from the goal line to midfield between 2 players, and then whoever gets the ball at midfield has to try to score. And if you get tackled by the other guy, you lose the ball. Yeah.
                    Umm, are you 12?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by El$anDollah View Post
                      This is is seriously ridiculous. If a defence cant step up and force the O to punt, they shouldn't win the game. If we gave each team a possesion, we would be dragging out the game. Honestly, people are whining that there O never got to see the field, maybe the team should have won it in regulation. There is nothing with the system, your team is just sucks when it really counts.
                      Exactly...that's what I've said from the beginning. All these alternate ideas are stupid, I can't come up with one that's better than how it is and pretty much no one else can, either, from what I can see...

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by njx9
                        *shakes head*

                        so the team that won the coin flip won a little over 60% of the time? by god, something must be horribly wrong! it HAS to be a 50/50 split, right? otherwise, the system is clearly broken! what if, when they go to the college system, they find that the team that gets the ball second wins 74% of the time? do they start giving both teams the ball second? maybe they should just start flipping a coin to determine the output, as that's the only way to give each team a "fair" 50% chance of winning.

                        this is the stupidest argument i've ever heard repeated over and over. if you can't play both sides of the ball, you have no business winning, period.
                        I like how a lot of people are conveniently ignoring this point. Any change you make has the potential to give one team a benefit over the other. The system that the NFL has employed has gotten as close to 50% as you're ever going to get. It's been closer to 60% as of late, but that's because of where they've been spotting the ball on kickoffs, and they're planning on rectifying that this offseason.

                        Basically, what I'm trying to say is if it's not broken, then why try to fix it?

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                        • #57
                          They should make them play the whole entire over time period but make it a shorter period, like 10 minutes instead of 15... It would be great for fantasy owners...=0)

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