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  • #16
    He could be something down the line, but I don't see anything now based on the stats from this year so far.


    Thanks to jackalope

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    • #17
      Originally posted by portermvp84
      He could be something down the line, but I don't see anything now based on the stats from this year so far.
      You of all people should now that stats can be misleading.

      18 point comebacks tell the story.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Patriots-Lions
        Originally posted by Geo
        Remember Jeff Garcia's stupid throw last year against the Bears in overtime, which was intercepted and returned for a GW TD?

        Frye's 4th quarter INT was at least twice as stupid.

        :?
        I didn't see Frye's INT, but was it THAT bad?.
        Yes.

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        • #19
          Yes.
          I just saw it half an hour ago. Wooowwwowowow.

          by BoneKrusher
          <DG> how metal unseen
          <TheUnseen> Drunken Canadian Bastard: There's an APS for that

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          • #20
            He'll be fine. Frye is young, and he's working with a young supporting cast. He'll come around.

            BoneKrusher

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Twiddler
              Like dcarey said I think he could be a solid starter in the league but just won't be the Pro Bowl type.
              If Jake Delhomme and Brad Johnson are pro bowlers then Frye can go to multiple stints in Honolulu. He is the second coming of Tarkenton. Give him an OL and he'll be dynamite with all those weapons.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by keylime_5
                Originally posted by Twiddler
                Like dcarey said I think he could be a solid starter in the league but just won't be the Pro Bowl type.
                If Jake Delhomme and Brad Johnson are pro bowlers then Frye can go to multiple stints in Honolulu. He is the second coming of Tarkenton. Give him an OL and he'll be dynamite with all those weapons.
                I think he's in the wrong offense right now.

                In my opinion, he's perfectly suited for a West Coast Offense. He has good pocket presence, is fairly mobile, scrambles to avoid pressure, ran the WCO in college, and it would help hide his greatest flaw, which is his lack of arm strength.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by portermvp84
                  He could be something down the line, but I don't see anything now based on the stats from this year so far.
                  If you haven't seen Charlie running around making those throws on rollouts and what not then you shouldn't be making calls on how good he is. (i'm talking to everybody) He looks better than his stats; has all the intangables and his arm is really underrated compared to the criticiscm it gets

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                  • #24
                    Considering he's never really played a full season, there's going to be many ups and downs. Winslow and Edwards have looked good thus far so the future for CLE is pretty bright. Basically the QB Chart, he's in the middle:

                    -Tom Brady
                    -Peyton Manning
                    -Carson Palmer


                    -Charlie Frye





                    -Ken Dorsey
                    -Koy Detmer
                    Is that a rash?



                    Give JKPIGSKIN credit for this masterpiece

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                    • #25
                      So far he's been as good as anyone could ask him to be with whats around him. He has an underrated receiving corps IMO, but the offensive line and running game arent doing him any big favors... then again neither is trying to chuck it cross body to the other end of the field while on the run.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by yourfavestoner
                        Originally posted by keylime_5
                        Originally posted by Twiddler
                        Like dcarey said I think he could be a solid starter in the league but just won't be the Pro Bowl type.
                        If Jake Delhomme and Brad Johnson are pro bowlers then Frye can go to multiple stints in Honolulu. He is the second coming of Tarkenton. Give him an OL and he'll be dynamite with all those weapons.
                        I think he's in the wrong offense right now.

                        In my opinion, he's perfectly suited for a West Coast Offense. He has good pocket presence, is fairly mobile, scrambles to avoid pressure, ran the WCO in college, and it would help hide his greatest flaw, which is his lack of arm strength.

                        Have you watched him this year? His "zip" has really improved, as has his deep ball. He proves everygame that he can make the throws, sure he doens't have Brett Favre arm, but it is good enough.

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                        • #27
                          like I said, the biggest knock people have on Charlie is his arm, which has not been a problem at all this season. Granted he isn't throwing lasers like Leftwich or Culpepper, but he has good velocity so far.

                          His only problem is he isn't a veteran yet so he doesn't read defenses quite like Brett Favre or anything, and he makes some decisions that only a young QB like Charlie would take. You gotta give him time, he's only started about 8 games or so in his career

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Philliez01
                            Considering he's never really played a full season, there's going to be many ups and downs. Winslow and Edwards have looked good thus far so the future for CLE is pretty bright. Basically the QB Chart, he's in the middle:

                            -Tom Brady
                            -Peyton Manning
                            -Carson Palmer



                            -JP Losman :)


                            -Charlie Frye





                            -Ken Dorsey
                            -Koy Detmer

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                            • #29
                              I think he may be the modern day Fran Tarkenton...

                              I only saw him play the against the Saints and he had zero time to throw. And on too many occasions his receivers dropped catchable balls..One INT was a perfectly thrown pass to Edwards that bounced off his stone hands into the DBs..

                              His arm strength is questionable but his abiltity to move should help him find open receivers...I like him

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                              • #30
                                I'm not amazed by him but I could see him becoming a top-15 QB when things get better in Cleveland.

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