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  • #76
    Originally posted by Ewing View Post
    Irony for 200.
    I said speak, not type.

    What do the vikings and marijuana have in common? Every time you put them in a bowl
    they get smoked.

    2010-2011 Super Bowl Champions
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    • #77
      i do not condone pac man or chris's actions, but goodell rubs me the wrong way

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      • #78
        Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
        He had major character concerns before he even got drafted. It was well documented.

        Tennessee rolled the dice, and got snake eyes. It happens.
        I really didn't start following the draft like a maniac until last year. Could you give me some of this character concerns? I'm interested in what they might be.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Ewing View Post
          I really didn't start following the draft like a maniac until last year. Could you give me some of this character concerns? I'm interested in what they might be.
          I cant find any links. I just remember that there was documentation of agression like battery/weapons possession etc. I could be wrong though.

          That was around teh time when I started getting into the draft myself, so my knowledge was a little limited at the time.

          Im sure someone here can provide the info.

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          • #80
            I have been looking, but I am also unable to find anything. I remember him being suspended at least 1 game at WVU for insubordination. There was some worry that his group of friends from his hometown would be a bad influence on him. I think he had an entourage at West Virginia at age 18...



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            • #81
              Dick Vermeil said that when the Chiefs interviewed Adam Jones at the combine, as soon as he left, he knew he was a time bomb waiting to go off.

              This is exactly what I have been calling for. This guy doesn't belong to be in the NFL. Now if he can make it a year without screwing up, then fine, let him back. Until that happens, he has no business representing the NFL. In no other business would this kind of thuggery be permitted. Roger Goodell is doing a great job of cleaning up the NFL, and not allowing it to become like the NBA.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by yourfavestoner View Post
                I agree with you on issues of self control. I have excellent self control. I do what I want to do and what I need to do, and don't do anything that I do want to do.

                I just try to look at things from different perspectives. I've always been a very, very laid back person in just about every aspect of my life. As a result, I was never able to just flip a switch to make me play with a chip on my shoulder during football. I have to assume that there is a flipside - people who have that aggressive mentality and can't just turn it on and off.
                What happens on the field stays on the field.

                I was/am a great player and it has nothing to do with anything in terms of me having a "dark side". I just like to go out there and play. To me at least, its more about being better then the other guy. if I can rip and dip past the OL and have my nose in the play, its one for me. And all day long I would take advantage of it. Same thing with offense. If I could knock a defender on his ass all game long, I am gonna do it, and enjoy it. One time I popped a small HB and he had to be taken off the field in an ambulance. Yea I was happy but cause he was a good player and it gave our team an advantage.

                Doesn't mean anything at all. being good at football doesn't indicate any kind of problem or make you a bad guy. that is ridiculous.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by GiantRutgersFan View Post
                  What happens on the field stays on the field.

                  I was/am a great player and it has nothing to do with anything in terms of me having a "dark side". I just like to go out there and play. To me at least, its more about being better then the other guy. if I can rip and dip past the OL and have my nose in the play, its one for me. And all day long I would take advantage of it. Same thing with offense. If I could knock a defender on his ass all game long, I am gonna do it, and enjoy it. One time I popped a small HB and he had to be taken off the field in an ambulance. Yea I was happy but cause he was a good player and it gave our team an advantage.

                  Doesn't mean anything at all. being good at football doesn't indicate any kind of problem or make you a bad guy. that is ridiculous.
                  Im gonna go out on a limb and say nobody believes what you just wrote...

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by GiantRutgersFan View Post
                    What happens on the field stays on the field.

                    I was/am a great player and it has nothing to do with anything in terms of me having a "dark side". I just like to go out there and play. To me at least, its more about being better then the other guy. if I can rip and dip past the OL and have my nose in the play, its one for me. And all day long I would take advantage of it. Same thing with offense. If I could knock a defender on his ass all game long, I am gonna do it, and enjoy it. One time I popped a small HB and he had to be taken off the field in an ambulance. Yea I was happy but cause he was a good player and it gave our team an advantage.

                    Doesn't mean anything at all. being good at football doesn't indicate any kind of problem or make you a bad guy. that is ridiculous.



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                    • #85
                      For those that said Pacman has never been convicted are dead wrong, to a degree. He has never been convicted by a jury, but he has pled guilty to a number of charges. That is why he is already on probation. He also violated NFL policy by not reporting two arrests. Also, under the "old" policy, the Commissioner still had the right to determine suspensions under the player conduct policy. The only difference is that Tagliabue did not enforce the rules strictly. Also, I have not heard that the NFL has actually changed any rules. This is not a new policy, just a new commissioner who is committed to enforcing the rules.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                        Im gonna go out on a limb and say nobody believes what you just wrote...
                        I've just learned to skip over the posts he makes and move on to the next one...

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                        • #87
                          Well, I feel they went overboard with the suspensions for a variety of reasons:
                          1) Pac-Man hasn't been convicted of anything
                          2) They are suspending them after-the-fact, there was no policy in place where they would have known they would face 1 year suspensions for getting in trouble off the field. A lot of other players have gotten into lots of trouble and not faced suspensions, these 2 were just the guys who got made examples of.
                          3) I just feel the suspensions are a little bit long considering the above. If it woulda been 4 games each or something I woulda said thumbs up, but this seems a little extreme, its the first time he gets suspended and its 4 games. And I dont know that this will be good for Pac-Man, it could be a lot harder to stay out of trouble without football. As this was his first suspension, Id be in favor of 4 games so he could get the feeling for what its like to get that suspension and see if he makes changes and then give him the yearlong if he gets in more trouble....

                          But on the plus side, I can see how the player conduct is a huge problem right now in the NFL and Goodell has shown he is going to take a hard line with it and hopefully players will take it seriously and stay out of trouble.

                          However, this could really backfire if players dont change their lifestyles. Goodell will be forced into a corner to stay true to his word and continue to take a hard line, doling out suspension after suspension until it gets really ugly.

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                          • #88
                            good move to send a message to the rest of the nfl. the suspensions might be a little excessive but it really gives the commissioner some teeth. players will (hopefully) think twice now


                            also yah no Henry for the ravens week 1 game!


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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by mrpotamus View Post
                              For those that said Pacman has never been convicted are dead wrong, to a degree. He has never been convicted by a jury, but he has pled guilty to a number of charges. That is why he is already on probation. He also violated NFL policy by not reporting two arrests. Also, under the "old" policy, the Commissioner still had the right to determine suspensions under the player conduct policy. The only difference is that Tagliabue did not enforce the rules strictly. Also, I have not heard that the NFL has actually changed any rules. This is not a new policy, just a new commissioner who is committed to enforcing the rules.
                              You can plead guilty to a charge and not actually be charged with it, this is actually quite common in the legal system.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by TheChampIsHere View Post
                                You can plead guilty to a charge and not actually be charged with it, this is actually quite common in the legal system.
                                Huh??? You obviously no nothing of the legal system. You would not plead guilty if you are not charged with a crime. Pleading guilty and being convicted by a jury are the same thing.

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