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  • Is Adam Vinatieri a HOFer?

    Is he a HOFer? I can't recall a kicker ever being as clutch as this guy. And I can't recall a kicker ever having as much impact on a game as Vinatieri has over the course of his career. He's hit more big game FGs than anyone. He was a legitimate SB MVP nominee. The guy is simply clutch.

    Now I know that kickers are not in the HOF (outside one guy I believe who was a qb and kicker in the 30s), but I think this guy deserves to be the first kicker in the HOF. If kickers don't get in just because theyre kickers, then take the position out of the game. They are very important to the success of a team, and Vinatieri is the perfect example of it. The Pats don't win 2 of their 3 SBs without him. And he's won 2 games for Indy this year alone. Am I alone in this sentiment? And do you guys think he'll get in?

  • #2
    i mean i dont think so...as morten anderson is the #1 scorer ALL TIME

    i think that will hold vinateri out as he isnt the best kicker just the best clutch

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    • #3
      and 80ish% career kicker? meh. his great playoff moments aside (a lot of players have had amazing playoff performances and won't get in), he just wasn't all that good over his entire career. if any kicker gets in, it should be morten anderson.

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      • #4
        I would put both of the anderson boys and mark mosely(who won the MVP of the league) in before him. He is simply and average career kicker over his career

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        • #5
          I think when judging a kicker, you can't look at his "numbers". If that were the case, Mike Vanderjagt would be the best kicker in the game, but he is obviously not. What separates the boys from the men in terms of kicking (i know, easy joke here) is how well they perform in the clutch. Its not how many meaningless FGs you can make, its all about making the important ones.

          And Vinatieri does it time and time again. He may miss you a FG when youre up 21-3, but the man is golden when youre down 3 with 2 seconds left on the clock from 50 out. Thats ultimately what you want out of your kicker. You want a guy you know can hit it when it counts. And no one ever has done it like Vinatieri. Forget the numbers, numbers don't mean jack here.

          Morton Anderson has had a long career and racked up stats with it, but has he had as many big moments as Vinatieri? No. I think Vinatieri's impact on big games makes him a better candidate. The game in NE against Oakland, the 2 SBs, the countless clutch kicks in between, the man has come up big when you needed it the most.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bigbluedefense
            I think when judging a kicker, you can't look at his "numbers". If that were the case, Mike Vanderjagt would be the best kicker in the game, but he is obviously not. What separates the boys from the men in terms of kicking (i know, easy joke here) is how well they perform in the clutch. Its not how many meaningless FGs you can make, its all about making the important ones.

            And Vinatieri does it time and time again. He may miss you a FG when youre up 21-3, but the man is golden when youre down 3 with 2 seconds left on the clock from 50 out. Thats ultimately what you want out of your kicker. You want a guy you know can hit it when it counts. And no one ever has done it like Vinatieri. Forget the numbers, numbers don't mean jack here.

            Morton Anderson has had a long career and racked up stats with it, but has he had as many big moments as Vinatieri? No. I think Vinatieri's impact on big games makes him a better candidate. The game in NE against Oakland, the 2 SBs, the countless clutch kicks in between, the man has come up big when you needed it the most.

            The only impressive clutch kick of his was the kick in the snow against oakland.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by thegame26
              Originally posted by bigbluedefense
              I think when judging a kicker, you can't look at his "numbers". If that were the case, Mike Vanderjagt would be the best kicker in the game, but he is obviously not. What separates the boys from the men in terms of kicking (i know, easy joke here) is how well they perform in the clutch. Its not how many meaningless FGs you can make, its all about making the important ones.

              And Vinatieri does it time and time again. He may miss you a FG when youre up 21-3, but the man is golden when youre down 3 with 2 seconds left on the clock from 50 out. Thats ultimately what you want out of your kicker. You want a guy you know can hit it when it counts. And no one ever has done it like Vinatieri. Forget the numbers, numbers don't mean jack here.

              Morton Anderson has had a long career and racked up stats with it, but has he had as many big moments as Vinatieri? No. I think Vinatieri's impact on big games makes him a better candidate. The game in NE against Oakland, the 2 SBs, the countless clutch kicks in between, the man has come up big when you needed it the most.

              The only impressive clutch kick of his was the kick in the snow against oakland.
              Kicking game winners in the biggest game possible isn't impressive?? :shock:

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              • #8
                Adam Vinatieri is important to the history of the NFL, therefore SHOULD get in. Not saying he will, just think he should.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Zim3031
                  Originally posted by thegame26
                  Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                  I think when judging a kicker, you can't look at his "numbers". If that were the case, Mike Vanderjagt would be the best kicker in the game, but he is obviously not. What separates the boys from the men in terms of kicking (i know, easy joke here) is how well they perform in the clutch. Its not how many meaningless FGs you can make, its all about making the important ones.

                  And Vinatieri does it time and time again. He may miss you a FG when youre up 21-3, but the man is golden when youre down 3 with 2 seconds left on the clock from 50 out. Thats ultimately what you want out of your kicker. You want a guy you know can hit it when it counts. And no one ever has done it like Vinatieri. Forget the numbers, numbers don't mean jack here.

                  Morton Anderson has had a long career and racked up stats with it, but has he had as many big moments as Vinatieri? No. I think Vinatieri's impact on big games makes him a better candidate. The game in NE against Oakland, the 2 SBs, the countless clutch kicks in between, the man has come up big when you needed it the most.

                  The only impressive clutch kick of his was the kick in the snow against oakland.
                  Kicking game winners in the biggest game possible isn't impressive?? :shock:
                  They were all very makeable but thats just me

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by thegame26
                    Originally posted by Zim3031
                    Originally posted by thegame26
                    Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                    I think when judging a kicker, you can't look at his "numbers". If that were the case, Mike Vanderjagt would be the best kicker in the game, but he is obviously not. What separates the boys from the men in terms of kicking (i know, easy joke here) is how well they perform in the clutch. Its not how many meaningless FGs you can make, its all about making the important ones.

                    And Vinatieri does it time and time again. He may miss you a FG when youre up 21-3, but the man is golden when youre down 3 with 2 seconds left on the clock from 50 out. Thats ultimately what you want out of your kicker. You want a guy you know can hit it when it counts. And no one ever has done it like Vinatieri. Forget the numbers, numbers don't mean jack here.

                    Morton Anderson has had a long career and racked up stats with it, but has he had as many big moments as Vinatieri? No. I think Vinatieri's impact on big games makes him a better candidate. The game in NE against Oakland, the 2 SBs, the countless clutch kicks in between, the man has come up big when you needed it the most.

                    The only impressive clutch kick of his was the kick in the snow against oakland.
                    Kicking game winners in the biggest game possible isn't impressive?? :shock:
                    They were all very makeable but thats just me
                    So 48 yard and 41 yard field goals to WIN the superbowl are very makeable???

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Zim3031
                      Originally posted by thegame26
                      Originally posted by Zim3031
                      Originally posted by thegame26
                      Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                      I think when judging a kicker, you can't look at his "numbers". If that were the case, Mike Vanderjagt would be the best kicker in the game, but he is obviously not. What separates the boys from the men in terms of kicking (i know, easy joke here) is how well they perform in the clutch. Its not how many meaningless FGs you can make, its all about making the important ones.

                      And Vinatieri does it time and time again. He may miss you a FG when youre up 21-3, but the man is golden when youre down 3 with 2 seconds left on the clock from 50 out. Thats ultimately what you want out of your kicker. You want a guy you know can hit it when it counts. And no one ever has done it like Vinatieri. Forget the numbers, numbers don't mean jack here.

                      Morton Anderson has had a long career and racked up stats with it, but has he had as many big moments as Vinatieri? No. I think Vinatieri's impact on big games makes him a better candidate. The game in NE against Oakland, the 2 SBs, the countless clutch kicks in between, the man has come up big when you needed it the most.

                      The only impressive clutch kick of his was the kick in the snow against oakland.
                      Kicking game winners in the biggest game possible isn't impressive?? :shock:
                      They were all very makeable but thats just me
                      So 48 yard and 41 yard field goals to WIN the superbowl are very makeable???

                      Yeah

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                        I think when judging a kicker, you can't look at his "numbers". If that were the case, Mike Vanderjagt would be the best kicker in the game, but he is obviously not. What separates the boys from the men in terms of kicking (i know, easy joke here) is how well they perform in the clutch. Its not how many meaningless FGs you can make, its all about making the important ones.

                        And Vinatieri does it time and time again. He may miss you a FG when youre up 21-3, but the man is golden when youre down 3 with 2 seconds left on the clock from 50 out. Thats ultimately what you want out of your kicker. You want a guy you know can hit it when it counts. And no one ever has done it like Vinatieri. Forget the numbers, numbers don't mean jack here.

                        Morton Anderson has had a long career and racked up stats with it, but has he had as many big moments as Vinatieri? No. I think Vinatieri's impact on big games makes him a better candidate. The game in NE against Oakland, the 2 SBs, the countless clutch kicks in between, the man has come up big when you needed it the most.
                        IIRC Anderson has kicked more game winning fgs than any other kicker in NFL. He also had that game winning kick that got Atlanta into the Superbowl.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Basileus777
                          Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                          I think when judging a kicker, you can't look at his "numbers". If that were the case, Mike Vanderjagt would be the best kicker in the game, but he is obviously not. What separates the boys from the men in terms of kicking (i know, easy joke here) is how well they perform in the clutch. Its not how many meaningless FGs you can make, its all about making the important ones.

                          And Vinatieri does it time and time again. He may miss you a FG when youre up 21-3, but the man is golden when youre down 3 with 2 seconds left on the clock from 50 out. Thats ultimately what you want out of your kicker. You want a guy you know can hit it when it counts. And no one ever has done it like Vinatieri. Forget the numbers, numbers don't mean jack here.

                          Morton Anderson has had a long career and racked up stats with it, but has he had as many big moments as Vinatieri? No. I think Vinatieri's impact on big games makes him a better candidate. The game in NE against Oakland, the 2 SBs, the countless clutch kicks in between, the man has come up big when you needed it the most.
                          IIRC Anderson has kicked more game winning fgs than any other kicker in NFL. He also had that game winning kick that got Atlanta into the Superbowl.
                          When you play as long as he has, thats gonna happen. And his most memorable kick was the one you just mentioned. As long as he's played, thats pretty much THE kick of his career. Vinatieri in a far shorter career has at least 4 kicks that were similar to that one. Think about that.

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                          • #14
                            Vinatieri's is a case in which the "signature play", or in this case, plays, that certain moronic HOF voters look for would be the thing to put him over the top if he got in.


                            The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.

                            If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.

                            <Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
                            <Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge

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                            • #15
                              JAN STENERUD = First and only "pure" placekicker to enter HOF he played for the Chiefs.

                              http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/me...?player_id=203

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