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  • #46
    Should Shaun Alexander get in?


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    • #47
      Alexander hasn't been that consistently impressive to me. He has a history of injuries that have limited him significantly. If he can bounce back and have a 1600 yard, 20 TD season, I'd put him on the list. Right now, he's kind of a flash in the pan type. Honestly, Clinton Portis is more likely to get in the HOF right now.



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      • #48
        Originally posted by Vikes99ej View Post
        Should Shaun Alexander get in?
        I gather you didn't read this thread from the beginning so allow me to show you the previous statement on Shaun Alexander:

        "Note: I am putting down players with significant NFL service time who already have a legitimate HOF resume. Players like Shawn Alexander and Randy Moss need to prove more to me in terms of production before they can be considered stronger candidates for Canton. Younger guys like Shawne Merriman, Reggie Bush, Larry Fitzgerald, etc. don't have the experience or the numbers to make it, so I didn't include them." posted by bsaza


        So the accepted answer is at this point in time No he should not.

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        Originally posted by Job
        On another note, Nicklas Backstrom is amazingly good.
        Meanwhile, in hockey the other night, the Washington Capitals' Eric Belanger gets hit with a stick, loses EIGHT teeth, has an instant root canal in the locker room, comes back out and PLAYS and never says boo.

        So new rule, NBA: Unless you have a root canal at halftime, SHUT UP AND PLAY!

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        • #49
          I didn't know that Alexander was unproductive. He was injured last year, but before that he was an endzone machine.


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          • #50
            I never said Alexander was unproductive. He has had several other injuries in his career besides the problems of 2006. His overall numbers are not incredibly consistent. If he goes and reels off 3 straight solid, pro bowl-type years, I will be convinced. He has had 2 dominant years, but he needs to show he is more than that before I will readily put him in as a likely HOF-er.



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            • #51
              Originally posted by Vikes99ej View Post
              I didn't know that Alexander was unproductive. He was injured last year, but before that he was an endzone machine.
              One MVP year does not make a Hall of Famer, years of consistency and productivity makes a Hall of Famer. Besides its the Seahawks, they got Steve Largent in isn't that enough? I mean 1 Super Bowl Appearance 1 Hall of Famer.... :D

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              Originally posted by Job
              On another note, Nicklas Backstrom is amazingly good.
              Meanwhile, in hockey the other night, the Washington Capitals' Eric Belanger gets hit with a stick, loses EIGHT teeth, has an instant root canal in the locker room, comes back out and PLAYS and never says boo.

              So new rule, NBA: Unless you have a root canal at halftime, SHUT UP AND PLAY!

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              • #52
                Alexander had consecutive years of 1,400, 1,600 and 1,800 yard years. He also had double-digit TDs in each of those year. I think if he can match those numbers in the next few years he should be considered.


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                • #53
                  That's basically what I'm saying. However, given the injuries this past year and the lack of productive games before the injuries even happened, I can't say he's a definite HOF candidate at this time. Why are you arguing this when we both agree?



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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by bsaza2358 View Post
                    That's basically what I'm saying. However, given the injuries this past year and the lack of productive games before the injuries even happened, I can't say he's a definite HOF candidate at this time. Why are you arguing this when we both agree?
                    Umm... I was talking to BigDawg819. Sorry for the miscommunication.


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                    • #55
                      No worries. I thought it was clear that Bigdawg and I were in agreement on this anyway...



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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by bsaza2358 View Post
                        Alexander hasn't been that consistently impressive to me. He has a history of injuries that have limited him significantly. If he can bounce back and have a 1600 yard, 20 TD season, I'd put him on the list. Right now, he's kind of a flash in the pan type. Honestly, Clinton Portis is more likely to get in the HOF right now.
                        This is inaccurate. I don't think SA gets in (or deserves to) but he certainly does not have a history of injuries.

                        GP GS C Yds Avg Lg TD
                        2000 Seattle Seahawks 16 1 64 313 4.9 50 2
                        2001 Seattle Seahawks 16 12 309 1318 4.3 88 14
                        2002 Seattle Seahawks 16 16 295 1175 4.0 58 16
                        2003 Seattle Seahawks 16 15 326 1435 4.4 55 14
                        2004 Seattle Seahawks 16 16 353 1696 4.8 44 16
                        2005 Seattle Seahawks 16 16 370 1880 5.1 88 27
                        2006 Seattle Seahawks 10 10 252 896 3.6 33 7

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by eacantdraft View Post
                          I love how people think every player who is retiring and has played for a while is going into the Hall of Fame.

                          Unless you are a true superstar during your playing days, a player is not going to get into the Hall of Fame any time soon.

                          Football has a huge backlog of potential Hall of Famers as it is. Look at Art Monk and he hasn't gotten in yet. Harry Carson took years to get in to the point where he wanted his name withdrawn from consideration.

                          The Football Hall of Fame selection method needs some serious reforms. Only 39 people pick the Hall of Famers. Only a maximum of of 6 players can be picked every year. Plus the old timers selections push the backlog of eligable players even more. And expansion has created a bigger pool of more eligable players.

                          Unless you are Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Brett Favre, Marvin Harrison, and maybe LaDanian Tomlinson (needs to play a few more season), there is no guarantee you will get in the first time, or even the second or third time.

                          This also means that players like Drew Bledsoe and Eddie George (despite what the homers and fangirls say) won't be getting in at all.

                          If youre a Giants fan like you claim to be, then you are a complete moron if you feel that Michael Strahan isn't a first ballot HOFer.

                          Ray Lewis is first ballot as well. Among other players.

                          Seriously...you honestly think only those said players in your post are the only ones who deserve first time status? No defensive players are worthy?

                          SMH...

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                          • #58
                            Uber pwnage!



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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by PapaBearHalas View Post
                              This is inaccurate. I don't think SA gets in (or deserves to) but he certainly does not have a history of injuries.

                              GP GS C Yds Avg Lg TD
                              2000 Seattle Seahawks 16 1 64 313 4.9 50 2
                              2001 Seattle Seahawks 16 12 309 1318 4.3 88 14
                              2002 Seattle Seahawks 16 16 295 1175 4.0 58 16
                              2003 Seattle Seahawks 16 15 326 1435 4.4 55 14
                              2004 Seattle Seahawks 16 16 353 1696 4.8 44 16
                              2005 Seattle Seahawks 16 16 370 1880 5.1 88 27
                              2006 Seattle Seahawks 10 10 252 896 3.6 33 7
                              Point taken. Even so, the overall production was decent, but not spectacular, before 2004. Two excellent seasons does not really make someone a HOFer in most cases.



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                              • #60
                                I guess we'll just have to see how he does in 2007 and 2008.


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