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  • #16
    Phil Simms said that there needs to be two calls similar to facemasks. They should make a 5 yard and 15 yard roughing the passer penalty. 5 yards and not an automatic first down on plays where the roughing is ticky tacky. 15 yards is a huge penalty to take and to have all roughing the passer calls being 15 yards is a bit much.

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    • #17
      The unnecessary roughness penalty against the Giants D on Vince Young Sunday was another example of QB's getting overly coddled. Young wasn't out of bounds and got hit shoulder to chest and absolutely decked just before he went out, and the Giants got flagged. It set up the tying TD on that drive. I'm an Eagles fan, and I hated that call.

      This is football. You protect the stars to an extent, but everyone should be eligible to get hit. Players should be allowed to hit QB's in a reasonable manner without being flagged for roughing. It is getting ridiculous. I agree that the rule should be there, but I also agree that the enforcement has been way too sensitive this season.



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      • #18
        to the 2 people who voted protect the qb go watch another sport

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        • #19
          My only complaint because of the lack of a call was the one against Ben Roethlisberger in atlanta. He Got Jacked and no flag... Then again, he wasn't cuddled like Gradkowski was from Smith. Brees was like WTF when the ref gave him a roughing the passer penalty against Aaron Smith.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by The Legend
            to the 2 people who voted protect the qb go watch another sport
            you make a convincing argument.

            no, wait, you didn't.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by njx9
              Originally posted by The Legend
              to the 2 people who voted protect the qb go watch another sport
              you make a convincing argument.

              no, wait, you didn't.
              ok i will let you make it for me if you want

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              • #22
                Originally posted by The Legend
                to the 2 people who voted protect the qb go watch another sport
                I don't get your sig and avy(which is too big), both of those teams are in the AFC..

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by stillaraiderfan
                  Originally posted by The Legend
                  to the 2 people who voted protect the qb go watch another sport
                  I don't get your sig and avy(which is too big), both of those teams are in the AFC..
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                  but i see your point im to lazy to switch it

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                  • #24
                    A good example of this rule being ridiculous, was sundays game between the Giants and Texans. The defensive player from the Giants thought Young threw the ball and let up on the play. He figured if he tackled him he would get called for roughing the passer. Either way the guy got screwed, but you can't blame him for it. If he buries the guy on 4th and 10 he gets penalized for it and it's automatic first down. If he let's him go, well we all know what happened after that.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by The Legend
                      Originally posted by njx9
                      Originally posted by The Legend
                      to the 2 people who voted protect the qb go watch another sport
                      you make a convincing argument.

                      no, wait, you didn't.
                      ok i will let you make it for me if you want
                      :roll:

                      let's start simple. what is wrong with the rule?

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                      • #26
                        I understand the rules for not hitting near the knees, no helmet to helmet and no late hits.

                        That's about the extent of what I feel should be roughing the passer.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by PalmerToCJ
                          I understand the rules for not hitting near the knees, no helmet to helmet and no late hits.

                          That's about the extent of what I feel should be roughing the passer.
                          i wonder why you understand that part of it?

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                          • #28
                            Re: Roughing the passer? Protecting QB's.

                            Originally posted by Big_Brother
                            Just saw a bogus roughing the passer call against Hasselbeck on a 3rd down so I decided to post this. I've been thinking about it for a while now so here goes.

                            Simply put, are we protecting the QB's too much and punishing defenders for just being physical?

                            After seeing the Kiwinuka-Young play, in which he said he didn't throw down Young for fear of a penalty (I believe that's how it went down anyways) it says to me that if defenders are now afraid to actually tackle a QB it's getting out of hand. I realize you have to protect your QB's, as they go down all the time and there just aren't that many elite QB's nowadays... but what do you guys think?
                            When I read that Kiwi quote I thought that he was just trying to cover up a monmental error. Then the Refs called Jenkins for roughing the passer and it was garbage, and I could see how Kiwi really didin't want to give up the 15 yard penalty.

                            Maybe QBs now need to wear a skirt or a tutu while they're out there. Or they could just put some flags on the QB and the defense could only tackle them by pulling off the flag, no real contact allowed. Someone should market that and call it flag football. It sounds better than the dangerous and violent game of real football.
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                            • #29
                              you know, i've been convinced. but none of you go far enough.

                              why does the nfl allow fair catches? make the guy catch the ball without a halo rule. same thing on receivers. what's the point in pass interference? bloody faeries need to toughen up. late hits? aren't they wearing pads anymore? let them hit each other all game, after the game, before the game. i mean, realistically, they should be able to punch each other on the field. these guys are tough, right? let them duke it out if they want. really, refs are only needed to spot the ball. but i dunno, maybe the ball isn't really needed anymore. i mean, this is football. they need to hit each other!

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                              • #30
                                How many defensive players whine when they get crack blocked? They like to talk about big hits and knocking out players, but they whine when they get hit themselves.

                                Can't have it both ways.

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