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  • #16
    Originally posted by cardsalltheway
    Originally posted by Jughead10
    Originally posted by cardsalltheway
    Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.
    Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?
    Schaub never had a 4 TD game. :?
    It was 3 tds but that still is solid

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    • #17
      Originally posted by cardsalltheway
      Originally posted by Jughead10
      Originally posted by cardsalltheway
      Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.
      Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?
      Schaub never had a 4 TD game. :?
      Not against the Patriots? I thought it was 4. Either way it took him one game to throew 3 TDs and it took Vick a couple of seasons.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by draftguru151
        Originally posted by Jughead10
        Originally posted by cardsalltheway
        Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.
        Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?
        Addai ran for 4 TDs in one game in his first year, it took LT until this season to run for 4. Great argument.
        Come on now. Throwing for 3 TDs is something a QB should do a little more commonly than have a running back rush for 4.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Jughead10
          Originally posted by cardsalltheway
          Originally posted by Jughead10
          Originally posted by cardsalltheway
          Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.
          Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?
          Schaub never had a 4 TD game. :?
          Not against the Patriots? I thought it was 4. Either way it took him one game to throew 3 TDs and it took Vick a couple of seasons.
          The only other game he had over 20 attempts in he had a QB rating in the 70's. A player that has only thrown over 20 passes twice and did well in one of the games does not deserve to be traded for a player with the type of talent that Moss has.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by draftguru151
            Originally posted by Jughead10
            Originally posted by cardsalltheway
            Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.
            Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?
            Addai ran for 4 TDs in one game in his first year, it took LT until this season to run for 4. Great argument.
            Yeah, it actually is a pretty good argument, coz I think Addai is as good as LT.

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            • #21
              Derrick Blaylock had 4 tds in one half against the Falcons once, by your logic he is clearly a future star running back.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Jughead10
                Originally posted by draftguru151
                Originally posted by Jughead10
                Originally posted by cardsalltheway
                Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.
                Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?
                Addai ran for 4 TDs in one game in his first year, it took LT until this season to run for 4. Great argument.
                Come on now. Throwing for 3 TDs is something a QB should do a little more commonly than have a running back rush for 4.
                Tom Brady, the 2nd best QB in the league, has only done it 7 times the last 3 years. That's about twice a season. It's not like that is something that is expected every game.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by cardsalltheway
                  Originally posted by Jughead10
                  Originally posted by cardsalltheway
                  Originally posted by Jughead10
                  Originally posted by cardsalltheway
                  Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.
                  Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?
                  Schaub never had a 4 TD game. :?
                  Not against the Patriots? I thought it was 4. Either way it took him one game to throew 3 TDs and it took Vick a couple of seasons.
                  The only other game he had over 20 attempts in he had a QB rating in the 70's. A player that has only thrown over 20 passes twice and did well in one of the games does not deserve to be traded for a player with the type of talent that Moss has.
                  I know that the topic of the thread but thats not what I responded to. I responded to you saying that anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves. Well they might be closer than you would think. I agree he shouldn't be traded for a player the caliber of Moss.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Basileus777
                    Derrick Blaylock had 4 tds in one half against the Falcons once, by your logic he is clearly a future star running back.
                    Not quite. Again a QB throwing for 3 TDs is something that is a little more common thatn a RB rushing for 4. The bottom line is that Vick a former #1 overall pick took forever to even accomplish something that isn't even that great of an achievement. He isn't a good passer. Schaub is better at delivering the ball to a reciever. Thats all.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Jughead10
                      Originally posted by cardsalltheway
                      Originally posted by Jughead10
                      Originally posted by cardsalltheway
                      Originally posted by Jughead10
                      Originally posted by cardsalltheway
                      Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.
                      Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?
                      Schaub never had a 4 TD game. :?
                      Not against the Patriots? I thought it was 4. Either way it took him one game to throew 3 TDs and it took Vick a couple of seasons.
                      The only other game he had over 20 attempts in he had a QB rating in the 70's. A player that has only thrown over 20 passes twice and did well in one of the games does not deserve to be traded for a player with the type of talent that Moss has.
                      I know that the topic of the thread but thats not what I responded to. I responded to you saying that anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves. Well they might be closer than you would think. I agree he shouldn't be traded for a player the caliber of Moss.
                      Vick is considered a top 10 QB by a lot of people and is definitely in the top half of the league. Schaub had one good game two years ago and other than that has not played well in his limited opportunities. I just don't put a lot of faith inone game wonders.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by cardsalltheway
                        Originally posted by Jughead10
                        Originally posted by draftguru151
                        Originally posted by Jughead10
                        Originally posted by cardsalltheway
                        Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.
                        Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?
                        Addai ran for 4 TDs in one game in his first year, it took LT until this season to run for 4. Great argument.
                        Come on now. Throwing for 3 TDs is something a QB should do a little more commonly than have a running back rush for 4.
                        Tom Brady, the 2nd best QB in the league, has only done it 7 times the last 3 years. That's about twice a season. It's not like that is something that is expected every game.
                        Actually 8 and this season isn't over. Its not exepected every game, but I'm sure Falcons fans would have liked to have seen it a couple times a lot earlier than it did.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by cardsalltheway
                          Originally posted by Jughead10
                          Originally posted by cardsalltheway
                          Originally posted by Jughead10
                          Originally posted by cardsalltheway
                          Originally posted by Jughead10
                          Originally posted by cardsalltheway
                          Matt Schaub is so overrated. People think he can step into any team and be a good QB but he has never won a game in his career in ATL. Anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves.
                          Well it took Schaub about 1 game to throw 4 TD passes for the first time. It took Vick how many years before he even threw for 3 in one game?
                          Schaub never had a 4 TD game. :?
                          Not against the Patriots? I thought it was 4. Either way it took him one game to throew 3 TDs and it took Vick a couple of seasons.
                          The only other game he had over 20 attempts in he had a QB rating in the 70's. A player that has only thrown over 20 passes twice and did well in one of the games does not deserve to be traded for a player with the type of talent that Moss has.
                          I know that the topic of the thread but thats not what I responded to. I responded to you saying that anybody that thinks he is better than Vick is kidding themselves. Well they might be closer than you would think. I agree he shouldn't be traded for a player the caliber of Moss.
                          Vick is considered a top 10 QB by a lot of people and is definitely in the top half of the league. Schaub had one good game two years ago and other than that has not played well in his limited opportunities. I just don't put a lot of faith inone game wonders.
                          I don't put a lot of faith in a QB in his 6th season who still looks like a rookie a lot of the time. Cowboys put faith in a no game wonder in Romo. They aren't regretting that.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Jughead10
                            Originally posted by Basileus777
                            Derrick Blaylock had 4 tds in one half against the Falcons once, by your logic he is clearly a future star running back.
                            Not quite. Again a QB throwing for 3 TDs is something that is a little more common thatn a RB rushing for 4. The bottom line is that Vick a former #1 overall pick took forever to even accomplish something that isn't even that great of an achievement. He isn't a good passer. Schaub is better at delivering the ball to a reciever. Thats all.
                            I'm not disputing that Vick is a poor passer, but one good game against a terrible pass defense doesn't mean that Schaub is any better. Kelly Holcomb, Aaron Brooks, and Gus Frerrote tore up that same Patriots defense in the middle of 05 also. What Schaub did was nice, but hardly incredible.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Jughead10
                              I don't put a lot of faith in a QB in his 6th season who still looks like a rookie a lot of the time. Cowboys put faith in a no game wonder in Romo. They aren't regretting that.
                              He's not even a year older than Eli.

                              You're screwed as well.

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                              • #30
                                All I have to say is Moss likely Warrants a 2nd round pick right now. Walker was younger and shipped for a high 2nd rounder. Moss would likely bring a mid 2nd rounder...which is right were ATL is looking to be.

                                Lets not kid ourselves...noone is looking good on oaklands offense...noone. So the real question is would atl give upa 2nd for moss. I think if vick pushed for it, it could be done.

                                All I know is I don't wanna see Vick dropping back and throwing a bomb to Moss...Atl would finally have a big time reciever...that would scare me and I wouldn't want to play atl.

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