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  • #46
    Originally posted by Ravens1991 View Post
    I think the FO may actually like Troy Smith as the future.
    And rightfully so, he's the best QB in this draft. The kid is 6', SO WHAT?!? Drew Brees is 6' but wasn't as good in college and doesn't have as strong of an arm. And sitting for 2 years behind Steve McNair will only make him a better player.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by keylime_5 View Post
      And rightfully so, he's the best QB in this draft. The kid is 6', SO WHAT?!? Drew Brees is 6' but wasn't as good in college and doesn't have as strong of an arm. And sitting for 2 years behind Steve McNair will only make him a better player.
      True, but Drew Brees is amazingly accurate, Troy Smith isn't bad but he isn't on Brees level accuracy wise.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by cunningham06 View Post
        Here's the order in which I expect the AFC North teams to finish.

        1. Ravens- One of if not the most athletic defenses in the NFL, this is an extremely talented group. Plus the addition of McGahee will improve the running game. I expect McGahee to have a better season than last, maybe all he needed was a change of scenery. He's certainly an improvement over Jamal Lewis who seems to have lost all burst and quickness.
        2. Cincinatti- Great offense, but I just don't buy the defense. The defensive line and LB corps seem weak, so I expect Cinci to have a weak run defense this season. Having a weak run defense vs. Baltimore with McGahee could turn out in two losses for the Bengals.
        3. Steelers- They will probably rebound from last season, but won't improve by that much. The secondary as a whole seems pretty suspect. Polamalu is great but you need more than one great player in the secondary. I really like the front 7 and versatility that the Steelers will have by being able to switch from 4-3 to 3-4 at will. This team is a wildcard to win the division, we'll see how they do.
        4. Browns- I like the improvements the Browns have made, but just don't see them beating out any of the teams in this division. The offense for the Browns will probably be a lot better than expected, I like what they've got in the running game. While not having a marquee back, they have a very versatile one-two punch in Jamal Lewis and Kenny Irons. Jamal runs with power but lacks quickness. Kenny Irons is extremely quick. I'm sure the Browns will come up with many inventive ways to use both of them. This offense has the franchise LT and QB, a really good TE, and a so far undeachieving WR who could just need the right arm to throw to him. The defensive unit while unspectacular is solid.
        Kenny Irons is a Bengal.

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        • #49
          After reading all the posts on here its pretty obvious that no one attempted to read my post at all. While it is long, it may provide a better insight to the steelers than some of these posts that clearly don't demonstrate an understanding of the team at this point.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFpnxVrT8Js

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          • #50
            Originally posted by keylime_5 View Post
            Well Long and Baker and McFadden are all top 15 picks, and Cleveland's first pick next year will probably be somewhere around #40. But one of the Felix Jones, James Davis, Steve Slaton, and Jonathan Stewart group will definitely be available at that pick next draft. But let's not discuss 2008, let's think about 2007 instead.
            Big mistake on that part.. I forgot they gave up their next years pick.
            Guess thats what happens when you don't watch all of the draft.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by America View Post
              Kenny Irons is a Bengal.
              Whoops fixed it.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by cunningham06 View Post
                Whoops fixed it.
                Good deal. The Brown's really don't have a backup to Jamal Lewis. When he starts sucking, they'll realize they are screwed.

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                • #53
                  I was PO'd when the Ravens released him because I realized he was one of if not the weakest link they had. He sure went downhill in a hurry.

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                  • #54
                    Yea it was wierd how he got so bad so fast. Either too much weightlifting and got too swole to be quick, or to much "shower time" in prison affected his running style.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by steelernation77 View Post
                      After reading all the posts on here its pretty obvious that no one attempted to read my post at all. While it is long, it may provide a better insight to the steelers than some of these posts that clearly don't demonstrate an understanding of the team at this point.
                      its straight... teams/people are underestimating the steelers right now and thats fine, we'll "surprise" em all come spet / oct / nov... and we'll sit back and tell em...

                      i told ya so

                      again

                      steelers 10-6
                      bengals 10 - 6
                      ravens 9-7
                      browns 4 - 12

                      thanks to steel man for the fresh sig

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by mikehop05 View Post
                        its straight... teams/people are underestimating the steelers right now and thats fine, we'll "surprise" em all come spet / oct / nov... and we'll sit back and tell em...

                        i told ya so

                        again

                        steelers 10-6
                        bengals 10 - 6
                        ravens 9-7
                        browns 4 - 12
                        losing to the raiders will do that


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                        • #57
                          I think people are underselling the Steelers a bit.

                          I'm not saying we'll win the division, but I think that we're the underdog and the last time that happened we went as a #6 seed and won the superbowl.

                          I'll give you a run down per position so maybe you guys will get some better perspective.

                          Offense:

                          Ben had a poor season and I'm not making excuses, he sucked. However, we are using a more Indy-Style oriented offense, which is going to help excel our passing and running game. He streamlined the playbook and it's supposed to keep everyone on the same page.

                          QB:

                          We have arguably the best depth at QB in the AFC.. and possibly the NFL. I Can't think of 1 guy that is a better backup QB other than Charlie Batch. Ben has been putting tons of input in with Arians, has been studying non-stop and has been working with WR's in the offseason.. which is something he's never done. When he's in the zone, he's a top 3 QB in QB Rating. He was Top 5 his rookie season and top 3 his Soph season. Last year he was horrendous. However now, he's also calling his own protections.. What is going to motivate him more to save his own ass then calling his own protections?

                          RB:

                          Willie Parker was the #3 RB in the NFL last year.. the top 3 were in the AFC. I don't like the amount of Carries he had, and I don't like how early we abandoned the run early on the road. The new offense will spread the defense out a lot more and allow Willies elusiveness to really shine. As for depth? We have Najeh Davenport who is an Excellent ST return man, a solid 3rd down back and pass blocker. However he's injury prone. We have 2 UDFA's which I have high hopes for. In Russells short time at Minnesota he outplayed Laurence Maroney. If he returns to form, that'll be our second UDFA Steal at RB. As for Mosley, from Baylor. He's a 6'2 240lb Short Yardage Specialist and I thought he'd be our Short Yardage guy. However, on Wednesday we signed Kevan Barlow.

                          Now I know there's going to be crap about "Barlow Sucks" and He's never had a great season since his 1,000 yard season.. but he's coming to a perfect situation.. He's coming to a former Power running team, that still has the power running line. He may have had a 2.8 ypc average last year, but he was a short yardage specialist.. I'm excited, Barlow and Davenport give us 2 solid "bigger" guys that are solid blockers and receivers at RB.

                          FB:

                          Dan Kreider is one of the most underrated FB in the league. We also have John Kuhn and Aaron Robbins (We lost Gijon Robinson, who would've been a great weapon at FB).

                          WR:

                          With us using more 3-4 WR sets.. we're pretty set at WR. Hines Ward is either the #1 or #2 WR in the AFCN, Santonio Holmes was a beast last year and actually won us the game to knock the Bengals out of the playoffs last year. I think this year with a better grasp of the offense he'll be a better deep threat.

                          Cedrick Wilson, Nate Washington, Willie Reid, Dallas Baker, Eric Fowler, Eric Deslauriers will vye for the 3, 4 and 5 spots. Personally I think UDFA Fowler could really surprise some people.. He was the Dwayne Jarrett of D2. Unstoppable. Wilson likely will start at 3, Washington/Reid will fight for 4.

                          Now speaking of Reid, I can't wait to throw out the 1 thing this thread is completely lacking.. Talk of Special Teams.

                          TE:

                          I Think Heap is the best TE in the AFCN now, but I think Pittsburgh has the best duo. With Heath Miller and Matt Spaeth, we can let Miller split out and create more mismatches. Spaeth is a huge red-zone target and monster blocker. I think this is going to throw some teams off.

                          OT:

                          Marvel Smith is a lock at LT and I hope Capizzi can challenge him next year.

                          Max Starks, Jason Capizzi and Willie Colon will battle for RT. Don't forget, Rookie Willie Colon, kept Adalius Thomas AND Trevor Pryce out of the backfield against us the 2nd time.

                          OG:

                          I hope we re-sign Faneca which, is rumored to be close to done. At RG, I think they removed the weak-link. Kendall Simmons is competing for Center and They're going to throw Kemoeatu in there. Either Kemo or Colon will give us a more powerful, bigger bodied Guard that can compete with the bigger NT's that gave us issues.

                          OC:

                          Some see Hartings retirement as a blow.. I don't, we knew it was coming. We probably have the most depth at G/C in the league. I have a feeling Mahan or Okobi run away with the C job, which IMO Okobi outplayed Hartings last year. Outside Chance for Marvin Phillip.. who shut down Haloti Ngata all through College.

                          DEFENSE:

                          LeBeau's loyalty in Pittsburgh has been rewarded with 2 Young and talented Linebackers, a High-motor DE, and a Solid Corner.. I have no idea what the hell he's going to do with them, but he is supposedly created 35 new plays, just for Timmons, Woodley, and Keisel.

                          DE:

                          I think we have one of the most underrated DE duo's in the league. Aaron Smith is a beast and holds the point as good as anyone. He's not much of a pass rusher, but we did add Ryan McBean behind him. Keisel was probably our best defensive player last year. He put up stats similar to Luis Castillo/Richard Seymour. He's going to be doing some key stuff this year as LeBeau is cooking up tons of new material. As much as Timmons and Woodley are being pumped up for LeBeaus Schemes, LeBeau is creating some interesting stuff for Keisel. I was worried about depth.. but we added 3 this offseason.. 2 rooks and Nick Eason.

                          NT:

                          Casey Hampton, IMO is top 2 in the league, the only guy I may rank higher is Jamal Williams and thats only because of Williams Sheer size/power. Hampton is a beast and his backup Chris Hoke isn't a slacker either. He was our Starting NT in our 15-1 Season.

                          OLB:

                          Losing Porter was a blow, but I don't know how this will work.. It's my question mark right now... I'll know more after I head to Latrobe for TC.

                          James Harrison is labeled the Starter as of right now. Grayback, is the guy that both body slammed the Browns Fan, and Chad Johnson last season.. There was a few games he started for Porter.. and in those games, he led the Steelers in almost every defensive category... Tackles and Sacks, he would make some forget Porter.

                          Timmons was to replace Porter... but he gives us flexibility. He's supposedly going to be used like Polamalu.. He'll just be walking around and you don't know if he's coming or not.

                          Woodley, even if he's horrible in coverage, which is supposedly his con about being a Linebacker.. he can't be worse than Clark Haggans.. he's faster, more powerful, and was more accomplished coming out of college. Plus he gives us the ability to seamlessly switch to a 4-3. Perhaps a poor mans Freeney, he can play standup or with his hand down.

                          ILB:

                          Farrior is a probowler at Buck and Though he's old, I think he'll be fine one more season, until we add Jasper Brinkley (I hope).. Foote was probably our most consistant Linebacker last year.. 90 Tackles, 4 sacks 1 INT and 1 Fumble is a pretty good season for Him.

                          Rumor has it that after this season or sometime this season.. Foote will be moving to Buck and Timmons at Mack. That would be interesting..

                          The fact remains Lebeau has an infusion of Young talent and no one has a clue how he's going to use them.

                          CB:

                          Ike had a bad season (who in Pitt didn't), but a lot of our secondary issues were from a lack of Pass rush. Which is why most steelers fans never understood the CB pick. Don't forget who the coach is.. Mike Tomlin, who is supposed to be one of the best defensive backs coach in the league. His tutelage to Ike, Bryant, Rico, An Smith, Troy, Willie *** and Anthony Madison could mean big things.

                          Ike shut down everyone our superbowl year. Of course his hands come pre-equipped with grease as he can't catch anything (Ironically he intercepted a pass in the superbowl). Bryant McFadden is a solid #2. Ricardo Colclough was looking as if he was coming around before his neck injury. DeShea is a solid vet and even though his physical stature and speed isn't anything to brag about, he's very intelligent. Apparently thats what they see in ***. They see him as a very strong and intelligent player who can contribute in Nickel/Dime Packages his rookie season.

                          S:

                          We have a solid Safety Duo. Anthony Smith had 2 INT's in 3 games Started. He also earned the #5 Top hit of the season per NFLN on the hit on TJ Howsmoozilly. He also was a punisher to Reuben Droughns, Kellen Winslow and Braylon Edwards. He's perfect in both the zone blitz scheme and Tampa2 scheme. He's a great midfielder that brings the pain everytime he's in on a play.

                          Troy Polamalu needs no introduction.

                          Ryan Clark was solid for us, not great, but he did his job breaking in Anthony Smith. He'll provide Nickel Coverage and Gives us great depth if an injury occurs.

                          Tyrone Carter is a solid backup.. Undersized, but when Troy was out last season, he single-handedly won us a game with a Forced fumble and recovery.. and he was playing exactly like Troy did, not as great, but solid.


                          Here's the part that everyone is overlooking

                          Special Teams.

                          We were absolutely HORRENDOUS last year. Tomlin has made it his personal agenda to fix ST. Timmons, Woodley, McBean and *** can contribute right away.. Don't forget We added Daniel Sepulveda.. the best Punter in the draft.

                          I don't think people realize how awful Gardocki was. He was hands down the worst punter in the league last year and if not, he was in the worst 2. Adding Sepulveda gives us the "Hidden Yardage" advantage.. no more 22 Yard Punts.

                          Sepulveda also allows us to have 11 coverage guys on the field, not 10 and a punter.. See:
                          http://www.baylortv.com/streaming/00...00kbps_ref.mov

                          Also, Willie Reid our 3rd round pick last year, who we drafted as a return specialist, is back. I can count on 2 hands how many games Special teams lost us.

                          Even as bad as we were playing last year, we were still in ALL the games (except Baltimore), until it came to ST's.. Our coverage sucked, our Punter Sucked, Our returners (Holmes/Coke) fumbled almost EVERY return.


                          So since we improved our ST.. I think a 10-13 win season is very much in the reach for the Steelers this year.

                          Yeah, I play WoW too.[/CENTER]

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Mr. Stiller View Post
                            I think people are underselling the Steelers a bit.

                            I'm not saying we'll win the division, but I think that we're the underdog and the last time that happened we went as a #6 seed and won the superbowl.

                            I'll give you a run down per position so maybe you guys will get some better perspective.

                            Offense:

                            Ben had a poor season and I'm not making excuses, he sucked. However, we are using a more Indy-Style oriented offense, which is going to help excel our passing and running game. He streamlined the playbook and it's supposed to keep everyone on the same page.

                            QB:

                            We have arguably the best depth at QB in the AFC.. and possibly the NFL. I Can't think of 1 guy that is a better backup QB other than Charlie Batch. Ben has been putting tons of input in with Arians, has been studying non-stop and has been working with WR's in the offseason.. which is something he's never done. When he's in the zone, he's a top 3 QB in QB Rating. He was Top 5 his rookie season and top 3 his Soph season. Last year he was horrendous. However now, he's also calling his own protections.. What is going to motivate him more to save his own ass then calling his own protections?

                            RB:

                            Willie Parker was the #3 RB in the NFL last year.. the top 3 were in the AFC. I don't like the amount of Carries he had, and I don't like how early we abandoned the run early on the road. The new offense will spread the defense out a lot more and allow Willies elusiveness to really shine. As for depth? We have Najeh Davenport who is an Excellent ST return man, a solid 3rd down back and pass blocker. However he's injury prone. We have 2 UDFA's which I have high hopes for. In Russells short time at Minnesota he outplayed Laurence Maroney. If he returns to form, that'll be our second UDFA Steal at RB. As for Mosley, from Baylor. He's a 6'2 240lb Short Yardage Specialist and I thought he'd be our Short Yardage guy. However, on Wednesday we signed Kevan Barlow.

                            Now I know there's going to be crap about "Barlow Sucks" and He's never had a great season since his 1,000 yard season.. but he's coming to a perfect situation.. He's coming to a former Power running team, that still has the power running line. He may have had a 2.8 ypc average last year, but he was a short yardage specialist.. I'm excited, Barlow and Davenport give us 2 solid "bigger" guys that are solid blockers and receivers at RB.

                            FB:

                            Dan Kreider is one of the most underrated FB in the league. We also have John Kuhn and Aaron Robbins (We lost Gijon Robinson, who would've been a great weapon at FB).

                            WR:

                            With us using more 3-4 WR sets.. we're pretty set at WR. Hines Ward is either the #1 or #2 WR in the AFCN, Santonio Holmes was a beast last year and actually won us the game to knock the Bengals out of the playoffs last year. I think this year with a better grasp of the offense he'll be a better deep threat.

                            Cedrick Wilson, Nate Washington, Willie Reid, Dallas Baker, Eric Fowler, Eric Deslauriers will vye for the 3, 4 and 5 spots. Personally I think UDFA Fowler could really surprise some people.. He was the Dwayne Jarrett of D2. Unstoppable. Wilson likely will start at 3, Washington/Reid will fight for 4.

                            Now speaking of Reid, I can't wait to throw out the 1 thing this thread is completely lacking.. Talk of Special Teams.

                            TE:

                            I Think Heap is the best TE in the AFCN now, but I think Pittsburgh has the best duo. With Heath Miller and Matt Spaeth, we can let Miller split out and create more mismatches. Spaeth is a huge red-zone target and monster blocker. I think this is going to throw some teams off.

                            OT:

                            Marvel Smith is a lock at LT and I hope Capizzi can challenge him next year.

                            Max Starks, Jason Capizzi and Willie Colon will battle for RT. Don't forget, Rookie Willie Colon, kept Adalius Thomas AND Trevor Pryce out of the backfield against us the 2nd time.

                            OG:

                            I hope we re-sign Faneca which, is rumored to be close to done. At RG, I think they removed the weak-link. Kendall Simmons is competing for Center and They're going to throw Kemoeatu in there. Either Kemo or Colon will give us a more powerful, bigger bodied Guard that can compete with the bigger NT's that gave us issues.

                            OC:

                            Some see Hartings retirement as a blow.. I don't, we knew it was coming. We probably have the most depth at G/C in the league. I have a feeling Mahan or Okobi run away with the C job, which IMO Okobi outplayed Hartings last year. Outside Chance for Marvin Phillip.. who shut down Haloti Ngata all through College.

                            DEFENSE:

                            LeBeau's loyalty in Pittsburgh has been rewarded with 2 Young and talented Linebackers, a High-motor DE, and a Solid Corner.. I have no idea what the hell he's going to do with them, but he is supposedly created 35 new plays, just for Timmons, Woodley, and Keisel.

                            DE:

                            I think we have one of the most underrated DE duo's in the league. Aaron Smith is a beast and holds the point as good as anyone. He's not much of a pass rusher, but we did add Ryan McBean behind him. Keisel was probably our best defensive player last year. He put up stats similar to Luis Castillo/Richard Seymour. He's going to be doing some key stuff this year as LeBeau is cooking up tons of new material. As much as Timmons and Woodley are being pumped up for LeBeaus Schemes, LeBeau is creating some interesting stuff for Keisel. I was worried about depth.. but we added 3 this offseason.. 2 rooks and Nick Eason.

                            NT:

                            Casey Hampton, IMO is top 2 in the league, the only guy I may rank higher is Jamal Williams and thats only because of Williams Sheer size/power. Hampton is a beast and his backup Chris Hoke isn't a slacker either. He was our Starting NT in our 15-1 Season.

                            OLB:

                            Losing Porter was a blow, but I don't know how this will work.. It's my question mark right now... I'll know more after I head to Latrobe for TC.

                            James Harrison is labeled the Starter as of right now. Grayback, is the guy that both body slammed the Browns Fan, and Chad Johnson last season.. There was a few games he started for Porter.. and in those games, he led the Steelers in almost every defensive category... Tackles and Sacks, he would make some forget Porter.

                            Timmons was to replace Porter... but he gives us flexibility. He's supposedly going to be used like Polamalu.. He'll just be walking around and you don't know if he's coming or not.

                            Woodley, even if he's horrible in coverage, which is supposedly his con about being a Linebacker.. he can't be worse than Clark Haggans.. he's faster, more powerful, and was more accomplished coming out of college. Plus he gives us the ability to seamlessly switch to a 4-3. Perhaps a poor mans Freeney, he can play standup or with his hand down.

                            ILB:

                            Farrior is a probowler at Buck and Though he's old, I think he'll be fine one more season, until we add Jasper Brinkley (I hope).. Foote was probably our most consistant Linebacker last year.. 90 Tackles, 4 sacks 1 INT and 1 Fumble is a pretty good season for Him.

                            Rumor has it that after this season or sometime this season.. Foote will be moving to Buck and Timmons at Mack. That would be interesting..

                            The fact remains Lebeau has an infusion of Young talent and no one has a clue how he's going to use them.

                            CB:

                            Ike had a bad season (who in Pitt didn't), but a lot of our secondary issues were from a lack of Pass rush. Which is why most steelers fans never understood the CB pick. Don't forget who the coach is.. Mike Tomlin, who is supposed to be one of the best defensive backs coach in the league. His tutelage to Ike, Bryant, Rico, An Smith, Troy, Willie *** and Anthony Madison could mean big things.

                            Ike shut down everyone our superbowl year. Of course his hands come pre-equipped with grease as he can't catch anything (Ironically he intercepted a pass in the superbowl). Bryant McFadden is a solid #2. Ricardo Colclough was looking as if he was coming around before his neck injury. DeShea is a solid vet and even though his physical stature and speed isn't anything to brag about, he's very intelligent. Apparently thats what they see in ***. They see him as a very strong and intelligent player who can contribute in Nickel/Dime Packages his rookie season.

                            S:

                            We have a solid Safety Duo. Anthony Smith had 2 INT's in 3 games Started. He also earned the #5 Top hit of the season per NFLN on the hit on TJ Howsmoozilly. He also was a punisher to Reuben Droughns, Kellen Winslow and Braylon Edwards. He's perfect in both the zone blitz scheme and Tampa2 scheme. He's a great midfielder that brings the pain everytime he's in on a play.

                            Troy Polamalu needs no introduction.

                            Ryan Clark was solid for us, not great, but he did his job breaking in Anthony Smith. He'll provide Nickel Coverage and Gives us great depth if an injury occurs.

                            Tyrone Carter is a solid backup.. Undersized, but when Troy was out last season, he single-handedly won us a game with a Forced fumble and recovery.. and he was playing exactly like Troy did, not as great, but solid.


                            Here's the part that everyone is overlooking

                            Special Teams.

                            We were absolutely HORRENDOUS last year. Tomlin has made it his personal agenda to fix ST. Timmons, Woodley, McBean and *** can contribute right away.. Don't forget We added Daniel Sepulveda.. the best Punter in the draft.

                            I don't think people realize how awful Gardocki was. He was hands down the worst punter in the league last year and if not, he was in the worst 2. Adding Sepulveda gives us the "Hidden Yardage" advantage.. no more 22 Yard Punts.

                            Sepulveda also allows us to have 11 coverage guys on the field, not 10 and a punter.. See:
                            http://www.baylortv.com/streaming/00...00kbps_ref.mov

                            Also, Willie Reid our 3rd round pick last year, who we drafted as a return specialist, is back. I can count on 2 hands how many games Special teams lost us.

                            Even as bad as we were playing last year, we were still in ALL the games (except Baltimore), until it came to ST's.. Our coverage sucked, our Punter Sucked, Our returners (Holmes/Coke) fumbled almost EVERY return.


                            So since we improved our ST.. I think a 10-13 win season is very much in the reach for the Steelers this year.
                            Quality post, I agree with you that improved special teams could make a HUGE difference for this team. There were a few games last year, I can think of the first Bengal game off the top of my head, that special teams cost us the game. Sepulveda should really help us with field position and if Reid can stay healthy, he's a dynamite returner.
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFpnxVrT8Js

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                            • #59
                              Can I just make it clear to you people that by losing Edwin Mulitalo the Ravens did not downgrade. Its obvious that you people did not watch many Ravens games last year because Mulitalo played I think all of 4 games. So I really dont see how losing him will effect us at all.

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                              • #60
                                The Ravens will win the divison. Last year the Raven's defense was unstopable and their offense was too. I think the Benagls will finish second if they can get their defense in order. The Browns are up in coming, they got a good young QB, decent rb, and a sturdy oline. I'm not sure about the defense but I could easily see them finishing 3rd. The Steelers are still rebuilding, I'm not sure about Mike Tomlin we could turn the team around and get them to the playoffs. You never know.


                                Thanks to jackalope

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