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  • #16
    The Texan's have improved from last year at every position except for the loss of Eric Moulds so there is no need to bash them. They've made mistakes in the past but they came through with new management and coaching and are turning the team around. I see them beating the Jags and Titans at least once and finishing third ahead of Tennessee next year.

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    • #17
      Peyton Manning is not going to decline. He is 31 but he has never really been injured ever. he knows how to take care of himself by throwing the ball away, plus a lot of defenders are probably scared to lay a big blow on Peyton cause the refs and the league might come down on them. Great QBs do get biased calls or the benefit of the doubt whether you choose to believe so or not. So in my opinion a 31 year old Manning is like a 28 year old QB that takes a lot of hits. And about Marvin, it doesn't even matter if he declines a little. Reggie could step up and be a one in a second and Marvin would be the best #2 in the league.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Breaker View Post
        Do you just sit around and post **** about the Texans? Seriously, get a life.

        is all 600+ of your post about trashing the Texans?
        With your grand total of three posts I'm so glad you know what I do on these forums.

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        • #19
          For the other two teams:

          Texans:

          The Houston Texans have talented players, but the problem is that the talent gap between some of the players (and the questionable drafts of Mario and Travis Johnson) have hurt the team.

          As widely known, there were two sides to the "who's to blame" argument when it came to the Texans last year.

          1) - David Carr
          2) - The Offensive Line

          Carr is gone in favor of former Atlanta backup Matt Schaub AND the signing of Jordan Black (while not an elite prospect) at least provides some solid play. The unit has shown signs of improvement and I really think you will see a slightly improved OL in Houston this season under Gary Kubiak.

          To replace Carr, Matt Schaub was traded to Houston. What I like about Schaub is his intelligence and poise but to be honest, there isn't much game tape on him to dissect his play. Schaub does fit the prototypes you look for in a QB though but expect some inconsistent play out of him.

          Ahman Green was signed to be the team's starting RB but don't be shocked to see Ron Dayne and Wali Lundy get a good deal of carries. Andre' Johnson is a stud, TE Owen Daniels is a fine target and rookie WR Jacoby Jones has potential.

          But the main area of concern is the defense. The DL looks formidable as Mario Williams finally has some help with the drafting of Amobi Okoye. The LB'ers are headed by Defensive Rookie of the Year, DeMeco Ryans but Shantee Orr and rookies Zach Diles and UDFA Jon Abbate could make a significant impact this season. The secondary is a bit of a question mark as Dunta Robinson is nearly a stud and CC Brown has enjoyed some moderate success.

          PROJECTED RECORD: 6-10, 7-9

          Tennessee Titans

          I am not questioning Vince Young's ability anymore. But I do have to question the surronding talent. LenDale White has the talent to succeed, but can he stay in shape or succeed with a full amount of carries? Will Chris Henry prove he was worth a 2nd round pick? Also, at WR there are questions surronding David Givens health and how Brandon Jones will react to being a #1 WR.

          The defense on the other hand, did help the team upset the Jacksonville Jaguars and Indianapolis Colts so they do have the capability to be great. Kyle Vanden Bosch had an excellent 2005 season but needs to rebound after a 2006 season that saw Albert Haynesworth suspended for 4 games.

          Keep your eye out on the LB crew as David Thornton had a good season, Keith Bulluck remains a force and Stephen Tulloch is on the cusp of a breakout season.

          But the main question begins with Pacman. Assuming he doesn't return, the CB crew will have to rely on aging Nick Harper and former Texas S Michael Griffin (the team's first round pick). If the secondary can hold up, they can mount another charge.

          PREDICTION: 4-12, 5-11

          I expect to get a few angry posts from Titans fans saying "I'm crazy" or Texans fans saying "I'm crazy".
          Is that a rash?



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          • #20
            Originally posted by Philliez01 View Post
            For the other two teams:

            I expect to get a few angry posts from Titans fans saying "I'm crazy" or Texans fans saying "I'm crazy".
            I completely agree with you. I feel the Titans are nowhere near the playoffs this season, and that Vince will come back to earth with the loss of Travis Henry, and both his top 2 targets.

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            • #21
              Vince Young's presence on the field had a huge impact on Travis's running success. There's a reason why he ran very well towards the end of the season.

              I know anyone can run well in Denver, but Travis Henry will miss Vince Young and his play-action capabilities.

              I'll post why I think everyone else is wrong later. I'm eating brownies.

              Brownies > j00 !!!
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              • #22
                Originally posted by bearsfan_51
                You should just get a monkey and teach it to type this, that way you never actually have to come here since you say the same ******* three things over and over again.
                So Ewing stating that the Texans will have a Top 10 pick next year for not drafting Reggie Bush or Vince Young warrants this remark? I mean c'mon. He has the right to say what he wants, especially since its pertaining to the subject of the thread. He's a Titans fan who thinks the Texans will stink it up next year. Blasphemy!!! The nerve that one has! He's blunt, but who cares. Just because he gets his point across in a way that doesn't meet your standards doesn't mean you can trash his posts and opinions. Leave that stuff in the NFC North thread.

                Great posts by Unseen and Philliez01, who is crazy by the way. ;)

                As for the division, I see it panning out like last year:

                Colts
                Jaguars/Titans
                Titans/Jaguars
                Texans

                Colts lost four starters on defense(five if you count Gilbert Gardner, who was benched mid-season). Three of the defensive starters were from their secondary. I know they have the talent to replace them, but thats a lot of experience to replace. I still think they'll take the division, though. Their offense won't miss a beat, and Addai should only get better. The only ones who should overtake them are the Jags.

                Which bring me to Jacksonville. Their defense should be great. They lost Deion Grant, but drafted Reggie Nelson. Reggie Heyward should return, so their D-Line looks scary. Secondary with Mathis, Williams, and Darius should be solid. I think they had injuries at LB last year, but Mike Peterson is a beast. But! Its the offense to watch out for. MoJo will probably be ticked about losing the Rookie of the Year award, and should spear head their running game. But, there's one glary peice of straight up nasty that everyone can see: QB CONTROVERSY!!!1!!1 With inconsistency at the position, their offense won't improve. This has a big effect on the receivers, who despite having the talent, continue to under acheive. Not to mention they struggle greatly on the road. If Leftwich does good, then they should have a great season and should look to be in the playoffs. If Leftwich does bad, look to them being in 3rd in the AFC South.

                The Titans are the Wild Card in the division. They could do good, or suck out loud. They lost their two leading receivers, and lead rusher. These aren't as big of losses as people think, but are of concern mainly because of the uncertaintity at the positions. Travis Henry ran for 1,200 yrds, but Vince Young had a big hand in that. Before Vince started for us, Travis was averaging 2.7 YPC and 41 YPG. He missed two games during this span of time, and was basically a non-factor. After Vince started at Indy, Travis averaged 94 YPG and had a 4.7 YPC. See where I'm getting at? Drew Bennett had six games last season where he caught one or fewer passes. Only in five games did he catch more than three passes. He had over 50+ receiving yards in only six of his games. He also only caught three TD's, and has a lot of trouble staying healthy and consistent. Bobby Wade was our slot receiver, and we have two guys on our roster who can replace him. Bobby also had only six more receptions than Brandon Jones, and had only 77 more receiving yards, so its not like he was our #2 reciever by a long shot. The biggest loss is PacMan Jones, who was their best cover corner and was one of the best punt returners in the league. The Michael Griffin at CB experiment is another thing to raise your eye brow at, aswell. The Titans just have a lot of question marks, but if they can answer them, they can pick up where they left off last season.


                As for the Texans, I think they've improved, but they have to show me that they can win. Its not enough that they got better players. Matt Schaub may be an improvement over David Carr, but Schaub is not proven and has never won a game, if memory serves me right. Ahman Green brings a little stability to their running game, but Green has an injury history, and if he goes down, that may mean a bad running game for a new QB who has a below average O-line, which was addressed only once in the draft. They got a stud DT in the draft, and a return specialist who has the potential to be a good WR for them. If Williams and Johnson can prove all their doubters wrong, they could have a good D-line, which will improve every area of their defense. The Texans could have a winning record, but I'm not convinced yet.
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                • #23
                  Time and time again people mention losing Wade and Bennett like it is some huge deal. They are depth quality at best. Bennett was dropping as many as he was catching and was used very little in the 6 game winning streak (1TD). Wade was solid but replaceable. I can understand that the WR position is not great but it's not significantly weaker. The only real loss on offense was Travis Henry but it's funny how, as soon as VY came in, his running game perked up.

                  It hasn't been a great offseason but I think a lot of people are exaggerating the losses severely - I really wouldn't feel much if any better right now if all three of the above were resigned for 07. It still would have been about VY in 07. It's all fine and well to say that the offense hasn't improved this offseason but there weren't really any realistic options out there to do so - the FA market was mediocre at best.

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                  • #24
                    lol, thanks TitanHope!

                    I am never going to doubt Vince for a while, hell we thought that Billy Volek would be starting at this time last season. I also remember Drew Bennett dropping at least two TDs that were excellent passes. However, can Brandon Jones be successful against guys like Rashean Mathis and even Dunta Robinson? Will LenDale prove he was worth it?

                    It's not really about how bad they are but how shaky the team is.
                    Is that a rash?



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                    • #25
                      How did VY help Henry run the ball? The o-line was changed, and that obviously helped a lot.

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                      • #26
                        Passing Offense
                        • Colts
                        • Jaguars
                        • Texans
                        • Titans
                        The Colts are the obvious leaders. I wouldn’t put too much emphasis on the last three rankings, because I think they are all middling, although the Jaguars I think have nice potential.

                        Rushing Offense
                        • Jaguars
                        • Colts
                        • Titans
                        • Texans
                        Fred Taylor and Maurice Drew can still be a lethal duo. Joseph Addai and LenDale White are also second-year backs who will have (or maintain) critical roles.

                        Passing Defense
                        • Jaguars
                        • Colts
                        • Texans
                        • Titans
                        I view this like passing offense: a clear-cut leader, and “wanna-be’s.”

                        Rushing Defense
                        • Jaguars
                        • Texans
                        • Titans
                        • Colts
                        This may be like the passing segments, but I do like the young Texans defenders and think that they’ll have a good year.

                        Special Teams
                        • Colts
                        • Jaguars
                        • Texans
                        • Titans
                        The Colts’ kicking duo is hard to beat. I think the Jaguars can be #1 on this list due to having a good kicker and a nice returner duo, but Adam Podlesh is unproven (although I think he’ll be very good) and because of said Colts’ duo.

                        Records

                        Colts: 11-5
                        Jaguars: 10-6
                        Texans: 7-9
                        Titans: 6-10

                        The Colts remain kings of the division…again. I see the Jaguars as a wildcard, and the homer in me says that they’ll make noise in the playoffs, as they have the potential (keyword) to be elite. The Texans will do better and give some teams a run, but not enough for the postseason. The Titans will regress but still may pull a few upsets.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by The Unseen View Post
                          Passing Offense
                          • Colts
                          • Jaguars
                          • Texans
                          • Titans
                          The Colts are the obvious leaders. I wouldn’t put too much emphasis on the last three rankings, because I think they are all middling, although the Jaguars I think have nice potential.

                          Rushing Offense
                          • Jaguars
                          • Colts
                          • Titans
                          • Texans
                          Fred Taylor and Maurice Drew can still be a lethal duo. Joseph Addai and LenDale White are also second-year backs who will have (or maintain) critical roles.

                          Passing Defense
                          • Jaguars
                          • Colts
                          • Texans
                          • Titans
                          I view this like passing offense: a clear-cut leader, and “wanna-be’s.”

                          Rushing Defense
                          • Jaguars
                          • Texans
                          • Titans
                          • Colts
                          This may be like the passing segments, but I do like the young Texans defenders and think that they’ll have a good year.

                          Special Teams
                          • Colts
                          • Jaguars
                          • Texans
                          • Titans
                          The Colts’ kicking duo is hard to beat. I think the Jaguars can be #1 on this list due to having a good kicker and a nice returner duo, but Adam Podlesh is unproven (although I think he’ll be very good) and because of said Colts’ duo.

                          Records

                          Colts: 11-5
                          Jaguars: 10-6
                          Texans: 7-9
                          Titans: 6-10

                          The Colts remain kings of the division…again. I see the Jaguars as a wildcard, and the homer in me says that they’ll make noise in the playoffs, as they have the potential (keyword) to be elite. The Texans will do better and give some teams a run, but not enough for the postseason. The Titans will regress but still may pull a few upsets.
                          I agree with most of it, good job.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Bobo View Post
                            How did VY help Henry run the ball? The o-line was changed, and that obviously helped a lot.
                            Yup I disagree about VY helping Henry a ton. The major change that happened that helped Henry out so much was the re-shuffling of the OL. Jacob Bell went from RT to LG where he should have been all along, Zach Piller was finally out of the starting lineup, and David Stewart went to RT and played great.

                            That was the reason our running game took off. That and Vince's scrambling.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Pit Bull #53 View Post
                              Yup I disagree about VY helping Henry a ton. The major change that happened that helped Henry out so much was the re-shuffling of the OL. Jacob Bell went from RT to LG where he should have been all along, Zach Piller was finally out of the starting lineup, and David Stewart went to RT and played great.

                              That was the reason our running game took off. That and Vince's scrambling.
                              Hooray for smart fans.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Pit Bull #53 View Post
                                Yup I disagree about VY helping Henry a ton. The major change that happened that helped Henry out so much was the re-shuffling of the OL. Jacob Bell went from RT to LG where he should have been all along, Zach Piller was finally out of the starting lineup, and David Stewart went to RT and played great.

                                That was the reason our running game took off. That and Vince's scrambling.
                                That's pretty much it. We did face some weak run d's, which also helped. But Henry did make a lot of it on his own, and because of that, I'm not sure how much of a hit our run game takes with two relative unknowns being handed the ball this year (as far as we know now at least).

                                I still wonder if Amano can be an upgrade over Olsen who looks painfully slow of foot nowadays. Leroy Harris, Roos, Bell, Amano, Stewart....that could be a very good line long term if we can keep them all around.

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