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  • #46
    Originally posted by ricky bobby View Post
    Minor Changes.
    how could i forget Eli. the fastest..strongest..toughest player of them all

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    • #47
      Will Smith could be a base end in a 4-3, a rush end in a 4-3, or an OLB in a 3-4. He is quite a complete defensive end and he'll probably make at least 5 pro bowls in his career.

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      • #48
        I would take Will Smith, but that's just me.

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        • #49
          Now this is the story all about how,
          My life got flipped, turned upside down,
          And I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there,
          I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air.

          In West Philadelphia I was born and raised
          On the playground is where I spent most of my days.
          Chillin' out, maxin', relaxin all cool,
          And all shootin' some b-ball outside of the school.

          When a couple of guys who were up to no good,
          Started makin' trouble in my neighborhood.
          I got in one little fight and my mom got scared,
          And said "You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in bel Air."

          I whistled for a cab, and when it came near,
          The license plate said "fresh" and it had dice in the mirror.
          If anything I could say that this cat was rare,
          But I thought "Nah forget it, Yo home to Bel Air."

          I pulled up to the house about seven or eight,
          and I yelled to the cabby "Yo homes, smell ya later."
          Looked at my kingdom, I was finally there,
          To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel Air.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
            I'd like to see another year out of Kampman like that. Not to say that I think it was a fluke year, but he was a full starter for a few years prior and he never had anything close to last year.
            Wasn't Kampman the best DE against the run and pass last year. I remember looking at something that he had the most sacks, most pressures/most knockdowns in the league as well as the most tackles for a DE.
            Last edited by sodar21; 05-15-2007, 12:33 AM.

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            • #51
              What people don't realize about Osi is how good he is against the run. Yes, he is a speed rusher that can beat anyone off the edge...but he has developed strength in the upper and lower half to toss linemen around and make a stop.

              If Osi avoids the injuries to the lower half this season, he'll have a huge year. And for those that need to pick on someone...Yes I do still believe he is better than Peppers.
              Originally posted by Paul
              Eli's opportunity to become a legend.
              Originally posted by Vikes99ej
              These last 50 seconds will define Eli Manning.
              MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

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              • #52
                Originally posted by GiantRutgersFan View Post
                Osi is a better and more productive DE than Will Smith.
                Well, we all know you're a flaming homer.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Acreboy View Post
                  Well, we all know you're a flaming homer.
                  You're one to talk Mr. "Dwayne Bowe is a better all-around player than Calvin Johnson"

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                  • #54
                    Mark Anderson

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by sodar21 View Post
                      Wasn't Kampman the best DE against the run and pass last year. I remember looking at something that he had the most sacks, most pressures/most knockdowns in the league as well as the most tackles for a DE.
                      It's very likely. He had a tremendous year last year. I just want to see him do something even close to that again. His first two years as a starter were pretty average and then he exploded last year.


                      Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by keylime_5 View Post
                        Will Smith could be a base end in a 4-3, a rush end in a 4-3, or an OLB in a 3-4.
                        And Osi can't?

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                        • #57
                          Ooooooooo, Number 10 is stirring the pot....



                          I don't know if Will Smith would be as good of a rushbacker as Osi would. Osi has better lateral movement and better speed. Smith plays a little stiffer than Osi. Ive been saying for awhile now, I think Osi would be an even better rushbacker than he is a DE, which is scary. You saw it with Jason Taylor this year. He's way too athletic and instinctual to be just a DE. I think Osi has Jason Taylor potential.

                          As far as Kapman goes, I need to see another season. He was amazing this year, but another season is needed for me to put him up there. He did play great though. I don't think he's the best run stuffing end however. Guys like Strahan, Seymour, and Jason Taylor come to mind ahead of him.

                          You know who doesn't get enough love? Schloebel and Burgess. Both these guys have been very solid the past 2 years and barely ever get mentioned.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                            You know who doesn't get enough love? Schloebel and Burgess. Both these guys have been very solid the past 2 years and barely ever get mentioned.
                            that's what happens when you have good players playing for teams that don't do well... Too bad for them.... Didn't Burgess demand a new contract earlier this year?

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                            • #59
                              Did Burgess play the run better in '06? Cause I know he couldn't at all in '05.

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                              • #60
                                Burgess isn't the best against the run, but he's better than Freeney, yet he gets way less pub than Freeney does. I think he'll slowly improve in the area of run stuffing, and he'll make more strides this year. In my limited view of him this year, he didn't seem that bad against the run, so I dunno.

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