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  • #46
    Originally posted by dabears10 View Post
    It is not sweeping it under the rug. You are speaking about the ehtical nature of prostitution and not its consequences.
    Making it legal would be sweeping it under the rug because it would be like the govt saying we can't stop prostitution, lets just make it legal so we don't have to worry about it.

    Originally posted by dabears10 View Post
    No street walkers would exist anymore because the market for them would totally drop of into nothing. Why would any man not go to a private clean place instead of a possible crime. Let alone the laws against streetwalking that would occur the market would drop and so money could not be made.

    I'm sure your argument is that Vegas still has street walkers and it is legal around it. But that is because the culture has not changed at all and so people do not understand, as shown by this thread, what is and is not safe and available.
    Yep, that is my argument.

    Originally posted by dabears10 View Post
    And with drugs, many deaths actually could be avoided if it was legalized. There would not be many fake chemicals in drugs that cause alot of people to get poisoned as well probably dropping prices for the drugs and possibly reducing the want for drugs since they are available. but that is another argument far from this one.
    I agree that drug legalization is a whole new discussion that I don't really want to get into, but my drug analogy was simply meant to tie in with the whole 'sweeping the issue under the rug' idea, nothing more.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by duckseason View Post
      I guess that's possible. But you didn't show it. I really don't agree with much of what you said at all. No hard feelings though. I think that if prostitution became legal today, you'd soon realize that you agree with every single thing I said. Your illogical conclusions regarding the impact of legalized prostitution is where I really butt heads with you.
      The part that I thought we agreed on was that places like the Bunny Ranch were ok because they can be regulated easily. I think you misunderstood me is when I was trying to point out the differences between brothels like that and prostitutes roaming the street.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by GiantRutgersFan View Post
        why do you guys have such long and drawn out arguments in favor of making it legal?

        cant get the ladies without paying?
        yes the reasonable reasons i have for making it legal is because of lack of success with women. I'm glad you jump to personal attacks because you have no base on which to counter with.

        GRF, you are the sorriest excuse for a human being. I don't think I have seen a rational thought shown on this entire board. You quickly make retorts that either go for personal attacks or an argument that makes no sense.

        I make long detailed arguments because it is what you do when making an argument. You can not simply say one line because then you look stupid, ala you.

        Thanks to BoneKrusher Credit and Rep to him for the sig.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by GiantRutgersFan View Post
          why do you guys have such long and drawn out arguments in favor of making it legal?

          cant get the ladies without paying?
          That is a childish thing to say. I never have and never will pay for sex. I've never been the type to waste my money. I am merely an advocate of our natural rights as human beings, and logic. It makes absolutely no sense to keep prostitution illegal. It creates many unnecessary problems for us as a society, and I don't believe that it's my place to say what a woman can and can't do with her own body.

          And I don't feel the need to boast about my ability to attract females, so that bait will remain on your line.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Stash View Post
            The part that I thought we agreed on was that places like the Bunny Ranch were ok because they can be regulated easily. I think you misunderstood me is when I was trying to point out the differences between brothels like that and prostitutes roaming the street.
            Right. Which is where the whole contradiction thing comes in. Which is why I absolutely disagree with you. I understand the differences between street prostitution and brothels. It's the exact same difference between illegal and legal. Which is the part that you seem to be confused about.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by duckseason View Post
              Right. Which is where the whole contradiction thing comes in. Which is why I absolutely disagree with you. I understand the differences between street prostitution and brothels. It's the exact same difference between illegal and legal. Which is the part that you seem to be confused about.
              In my arguments I was pretty much saying that bold part exactly.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by GiantRutgersFan View Post
                why do you guys have such long and drawn out arguments in favor of making it legal?

                cant get the ladies without paying?
                I'm Engaged.

                and 2... I'm a Computer Science and Pre-Law Double major. I enjoy ethical debates.

                3rdly, Your point was:

                1) It's unethical.
                A: No it's not, Just As I'm sure you watched Porn, thats a legalized version of Prostitution. No? A girl, got paid, to have sex. Prostitution.

                2) What about my sister.
                A: Yes I would be upset about my sister doing this. However, I would feel much safer (As nothing I could do or say would really stop her if she did indeed choose this lifestyle) in a controlled environment, than walking the streets. If she's going to have this kind of occupation, it's depressing, but I'd rather her be in the safest place working as possible.

                3) Consequences of Legalization?
                A: Much less than left illegal and un-regulated. STD's, Drugs, Violence(Pimps) all play risks. If in a safe regulated environment, less chances. Un-regulated Prostitution probably would result in a lot more unwanted pregnancies as well. Not to mention ailments due to conditions. How many shows have you seen that prostitutes wear next to nothing all night on the cold streets. In a set environment, that risk is next to none.

                4) No luck with the ladies?
                A: Again, I'm engaged. But that wasn't my point on it. You said it was unethical. I stated that it's really not, but I thought though legalized would clean it up and on top of that, it would bring in an astounding Tax market.

                Therefore meaning. With the abundance Prostitution would rake in for taxes, Federal and State taxes could possibly be lowered. Meaning, thats less I have to pay in april, for them to legalize and control something that they look the other way at anyways.

                5) Why the long drawn out conversation?
                A: Again, I like debating ethics. If this were any other conversation, say Marijuana legalization, Cocaine, or anything of any nature. I would put my opinion in.

                I'm not praying that it's legalized so I can go to Betty's Whorehouse, I'm just saying, It's a problem, that would be much better run if the State/Federal government had a hand in making it safer, and it could provide tax breaks (Hopefully for the middle class this time, along with small businesses), and could eventually lead to a surplus, meaning it could even be funneled into Social Security thats drying up faster than Iraqi Oil.




                Frankly what it boils down to is this.

                It's going to happen... Legal or not.

                Either you can catch a few fish in a big sea, and have them pay fines.

                OR, you can own the aquarium and have them ALL pay taxes.

                Who knows, a surplus could give us Federal funded health care for everyone as well (Like the money from Iraq could've. Every person 1.33 years or older could've had Health care provided from the federal government, until they die). It's going to happen, might as well regulate and profit from it.
                Last edited by Mr. Stiller; 05-18-2007, 12:52 AM.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Stash View Post
                  In my arguments I was pretty much saying that bold part exactly.
                  No, you weren't. Otherwise we would never have argued.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by duckseason View Post
                    No, you weren't. Otherwise we would never have argued.
                    Thats exactly why I was saying you misunderstood me.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Stash View Post
                      Thats exactly why I was saying you misunderstood me.
                      No, I really didn't. I'm eating pizza right now. I'll quote you later.

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                      • #56
                        Well its getting late, my LAN is starting to throw a sh*t fit, and I have to get up early for work. I'll check back on this thread tomorrow.

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