Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Best 4-3 Dline in the NFL revisited

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #61
    I agree that the Panthers front 4 is fairly over-rated...they have the big names and can be dominant...

    but in the games I saw they disappear for LARGE stretches at a time...yes even Peppers..

    maybe it's the offenses inability to keep the Defense off the field as long (one of worst 3rd down conversion rates in the NFL) but their D-line has only had 1 truly dominating game this year...and that was the 15-0 shutout of St.Louis...when they had Bynum and Morton at CB.

    Comment


    • #62
      Originally posted by draftguru151
      Doesn't Baltimore run a 3-4 as well? At least part time.
      We've started the last few games in a 3-4.


      DE- Trevor Pryce
      DT- Kelly Gregg
      DE- Haloti Ngata

      OLB Terrell Suggs
      ILB Ray Lewis
      ILB Bart Scott
      OLB Adalius Thomas

      Comment


      • #63
        Originally posted by Number 10
        Originally posted by ChargerCohen
        Originally posted by Shiver
        It's between Jacksonville and Baltimore, no one else even comes close.
        It's a 3-4 scheme so they don't mentioned very often, but I don't know if I'd want anyone besides Igor Olshansky, Jamal Williams, and Luis Castillo. They are all absolute beasts, and a big reason why our linebackers get to fly around all day.
        I was thinking the same thing. Williams is the best interior defensive lineman in the league. But when comparing 3-4 and 4-3 fronts, it's just comparing apples and oranges because the roles are so different. You'd have to make two seperate polls....best 4-3 line and best 3-4 line.
        I think the Patriots have an argument for best 3-4 DL. It is close though.

        That is correct comahan
        I ******* LOVE YOU DG
        <3 dg

        Comment


        • #64
          Originally posted by Star Wideout
          I agree that the Panthers front 4 is fairly over-rated...they have the big names and can be dominant...

          but in the games I saw they disappear for LARGE stretches at a time...yes even Peppers..

          maybe it's the offenses inability to keep the Defense off the field as long (one of worst 3rd down conversion rates in the NFL) but their D-line has only had 1 truly dominating game this year...and that was the 15-0 shutout of St.Louis...when they had Bynum and Morton at CB.
          You really need to do some watching of games chief, that front four is dominant until about half way through the third qtr when exhaustion sets in.

          Carolina leads the league in sending opponents to three and out... THAT is a direct result of the defensive line, the offense isn't holding up its end of the bargain. Jenkins and Kemoeatu are as good as any tandem in the league, Peppers alone puts them in jacksonville territory let alone rucker as well.

          As for Pep disappearing, that's ********, he's got two or three guys on him every play of every series. Even then he's almost always held, if the officials took their eyes off the QBs and watched the line like they should, they'd call it a lot more.

          That's something all teams are having problems with, a lot of other fouls are being missed because officials are watching QBs, not the rest of the play.

          Comment


          • #65
            Originally posted by BlindSite
            Originally posted by Star Wideout
            I agree that the Panthers front 4 is fairly over-rated...they have the big names and can be dominant...

            but in the games I saw they disappear for LARGE stretches at a time...yes even Peppers..

            maybe it's the offenses inability to keep the Defense off the field as long (one of worst 3rd down conversion rates in the NFL) but their D-line has only had 1 truly dominating game this year...and that was the 15-0 shutout of St.Louis...when they had Bynum and Morton at CB.
            You really need to do some watching of games chief, that front four is dominant until about half way through the third qtr when exhaustion sets in.

            Carolina leads the league in sending opponents to three and out... THAT is a direct result of the defensive line, the offense isn't holding up its end of the bargain. Jenkins and Kemoeatu are as good as any tandem in the league, Peppers alone puts them in jacksonville teritory let alone rucker as well.
            The problem I have with your line is the fact that they disappear for long periods of time. They can be unstoppable one game, then very average the next.

            Peppers is a perfect example of this. At the beginning of the year he was on fire and everyone was sucking him off. Since then he's been very quiet and so has the manwood. I think its an elite line, just not the best. I put Baltimore and Jacksonville ahead of them.

            I also don't know if Jenkins is the same Jenkins of 3 years ago. He just doesn't have the explosion that he used to, thus making him overrated by many. Rucker is getting older, and Kemeatu is great, but overall I think the line as a whole is fairly overrated.

            Comment


            • #66
              Originally posted by Charm City Byrdgang
              Originally posted by draftguru151
              Doesn't Baltimore run a 3-4 as well? At least part time.
              We've started the last few games in a 3-4.


              DE- Trevor Pryce
              DT- Kelly Gregg
              DE- Haloti Ngata

              OLB Terrell Suggs
              ILB Ray Lewis
              ILB Bart Scott
              OLB Adalius Thomas
              That's what makes the Ravens D so good. You can use that 3-4 look, and in the basic 4-3 look you can go

              DE- Pryce
              DT- Ngata
              DT- Gregg
              DE- Suggs

              OLB- Scott
              MLB- Lewis
              OLB- Thomas

              And if you want to get more of a pure pass rush, you can put Trevor Pryce inside at the 3-tech, pair him with Ngata, and then put Adalius at DE with Suggs. There's so much versatility in their front 7 that it's almost unreal.

              Comment


              • #67
                The Saints will be in the discussion if they can find them a good DT to pair with those ends. Will Smith is a monster.

                Comment


                • #68
                  The Jaguars probably have the best pure 4-3 line, but the Ravens d-line is right up there wether they line up in 3-4 or 4-3 or a 46.

                  Sig by BuckNaked
                  Ravens
                  Baltimore Orioles
                  Maryland Terrapins

                  Comment

                  Working...
                  X

                  Debug Information