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  • #31
    Originally posted by ChargerCohen View Post
    It's probably a direct result of winning the superbowl and then falling flat on their face.
    An 8-8 season and missing the playoffs by 1 game is hardly falling flat on their face.

    Isn't it funny that the Steelers have an average season and everyone thinks is a horrible year but there are teams like the Browns and Bengals in our division that strive for a .500 record. I remember all the Bengal fans rejoicing when Marvin got them to .500.

    But anyway, thats not why everyone says all our players are overrated because they thought everyone was overrated even after going 15-1 and coming back the next year and winning it all. Just seems anyone that plays in Pittsburgh has to be considered overrated if they are given any attention at all.

    Take Porter for an example. While he was a Steeler everyone said he was overrated and made him out to be a bad OLB on the end of his career. Then he leaves and everyone says it will be a devastating loss to the Steelers and a great gain for the Dolphins.
    Last edited by Smooth Criminal; 05-25-2007, 03:01 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Smooth Criminal View Post
      An 8-8 season and missing the playoffs by 1 game is hardly falling flat on their face.

      Isn't it funny that the Steelers have an average season and everyone thinks is a horrible year but there are teams like the Browns and Bengals in our division that strive for a .500 record. I remember all the Bengal fans rejoicing when Marvin got them to .500.

      But anyway, thats not why everyone says all our players are overrated because they thought everyone was overrated even after going 15-1 and coming back the next year and winning it all. Just seems anyone that plays in Pittsburgh has to be considered overrated if they are given any attention at all.

      Take Porter for an example. While he was a Steeler everyone said he was overrated and made him out to be a bad OLB on the end of his career. Then he leaves and everyone says it will be a devastating loss to the Steelers and a great gain for the Dolphins.
      Exactly.

      Don't forget, Bens Rookie season weapons...

      Plaxico Burress, Hines Ward, Lee Mays

      Oh and these superstars:

      Duce Staley, Oliver Ross, Jerame Tuman, Keydrick Vincent...

      And we lost Casey Hampton for the season.

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      • #33
        Exactly. People said Ben succedd early because of the great offense around him. The right side of the line was horrible and we had no depth at reciever. Plus Even though the recievers were probabl;y the best weapon we had at that point everyone said Ward and Burress were overrated aswell.

        So if Ben is only playing good early because he has a good supporting cast, how can that supporting cast also be overrated?

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        • #34
          I can't understand why anybody would bash the steelers for signing Ben Roethlisberger to a huge contract.

          Take his passer rating last year, 75.4, that's only.3 less than michael vick's career average of 75.7.

          His career passer rating, at 87.9 is higher than these guys, oh, and he has a ring...
          Air McNair, 83.2 (no rings)
          Favre, 85.1 (one ring)
          Drew Brees, 87.5 (no rings)
          Mark Burnell 84.2 (no rings)
          Jeff Garcia 85.4 (no rings)
          Matt Hasselbeck 85.1 ( no rings)
          McNabb 85.2 (no rings)

          Who has better numbers than ben? Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Daunte Culpepper and Carson Palmer... Oh, and Phillip Rivers has a slightly higher rating, having only started for one season... so that doesn't really count.

          So how much should he be payed? As much as Tom Brady or Peyton Manning? of course not, but he should get a contract that reflects how he stands in relation to other nfl QB's.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Mr. Stiller
            Ben had 2 solid seasons, 1 really bad one. I don't like getting into hypotheticals, but I would be interested in seeing Eli or Philip have near death experiences, emergency appendectomy's, and see how their season unfolds.
            Ok, you said it yourself. He had two solid seasons and one bad one. Is giving a QB with three years experience, that has only had two "solid" seasons, a large contract extention a good idea?

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            • #36
              If your read the article it says they'll be doing it after this season is over so I'm sure how well he plays will play into how long this deal is and how much it is worth.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Patriots-Lions View Post
                Ok, you said it yourself. He had two solid seasons and one bad one. Is giving a QB with three years experience, that has only had two "solid" seasons, a large contract extention a good idea?
                Yes, Considering his two "Solid" seasons (I think you misinterpreted how I meant solid, I meant it as he played nearly mistake free), he went 15-1/1-1 and 11-5/4-0.

                His worst season, he only played bad enough to keep us at 8-8.

                So with a Career Stats:

                8519yds - 2840yds/season
                62.4%
                52-43 Td-INT..
                87.9 Career QB Rating.

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