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  • #31
    Originally posted by JoeMontainya View Post
    All the exsperts say the same, just because you dont agree, doesnt mean it is "ignorant". The dude is absolutly HORRID in coverage, dont try to defend that part of his game.
    He was asked to cover #1 receivers last season, I would like to see any safety not give up TD's in that situation. His coverage is not horrid, but better than you would expect for someone with his size. Try watching the game instead of listening to the so called "experts" on ESPN.

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    • #32
      You guys can say whatever you want about him. But where Im from actions speak louder than words. I gave an actual stat that shows his actions, and as of now Im right until someone shows me why his 8 TD's given up make him good in coverage? #1 WR's? Im pretty sure not a single safety last year was asked to match up man on man with a #1 WR, maybe help situations, but dont even give me that bull.

      And I love how most of you guys who more than likely are under 21, allways bash the exsperts because your opinion is different. Well I gave a stat that goes beyond opinion, Taylor was responsible for 8 pass TD's.

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      • #33
        1-Ed Reed
        2-Brian Dawkins
        3-Adrian Wilson
        4-Bob Sanders
        5-Troy Polamalu
        6-Chris Hope
        7-Sean Taylor
        8-Kerry Rhodes

        thanks Bengals1690

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        • #34
          Originally posted by JoeMontainya View Post
          You guys can say whatever you want about him. But where Im from actions speak louder than words. I gave an actual stat that shows his actions, and as of now Im right until someone shows me why his 8 TD's given up make him good in coverage? #1 WR's? Im pretty sure not a single safety last year was asked to match up man on man with a #1 WR, maybe help situations, but dont even give me that bull.

          And I love how most of you guys who more than likely are under 21, allways bash the exsperts because your opinion is different. Well I gave a stat that goes beyond opinion, Taylor was responsible for 8 pass TD's.
          Jon Kitna had more passing yards than Tom Brady. He is a better passer.

          Statistics are far from indisputable evidence.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Moses View Post
            Jon Kitna had more passing yards than Tom Brady. He is a better passer.

            Statistics are far from indisputable evidence.
            You just used Jon Kitna as a deffense to Taylor? I think this is where the arguement ends....

            When a S continually gets beat for TD's (2nd worste in all the NFL to be exact) I think that says enough.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by cunningham06 View Post
              What? Landry had great production last season. 69 tackles, 3 sacks, 5 interceptions. He came in and started as a rookie and was excellent, he was one of the best defensive rookies last season. He's proved he can play, so I put him in my top 5 SS. He's not a top 5 safety but top 10 is by no means a stretch.
              He had one pretty good year. Yes, production--as in proving he can do it more than once. If he had come out and played on the level of Ed Reed then it would be one thing, but he didn't. People are putting him up there because "that was his rookie year, imagine how much better he can be next year!"

              Yes, and Napoleon Harris was very good in his rookie year as well, leading the way for the #2 overall run defense and racking up some nice production in the process. But guess what, 4 years later no one in their right minds would consider him anywhere near top 10 in MLBs or OLBs.

              To take you back a couple years, people thought Michael Boulware was the next big thing after his rookie year. I guess they had something else coming, eh?

              People get all excited about this young player or that young player on the verge of a "breakout year" but so often that year keeps getting pushed back. Let's wait until he actually proves he can do it consistently. Until then he's just as likely to be the next flash in the pan.

              Oldie but a goodie.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by JoeMontainya View Post
                You just used Jon Kitna as a deffense to Taylor? I think this is where the arguement ends....

                When a S continually gets beat for TD's (2nd worste in all the NFL to be exact) I think that says enough.
                Owned? Honestly though he has made a good point.

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                • #38
                  Safety:
                  Ed Reed
                  Brain Dawkins
                  Troy Polamalu
                  Adrian Wilson
                  Sean Taylor
                  John Lynch(lol little homerism, BUT careerwise probs the second best safety still playing right behind Dawkins)

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by JoeMontainya View Post
                    You just used Jon Kitna as a deffense to Taylor? I think this is where the arguement ends....

                    When a S continually gets beat for TD's (2nd worste in all the NFL to be exact) I think that says enough.
                    This was some-what true. He got beat a ton of times last year for TDs. I don't wanna directly blame him for everything cause his whole supporting cast/defense sucked balls. This is my unbiased opinion btw. Everyone knows he has all the talent and physical tools..yada yada yada..

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                    • #40
                      Safeties of Tomorrow:
                      Jarrad page, Brandon Merriwether, Bernard Pollard, Nick Collins, Donte Whitner, Ko Simpson, Michael Huff, Danny Manning, Marvin White, Laron Landry, Dawan Landry, Reggie Nelson, Eric Weddle, Sabby Piscatelli


                      wow, alot of young depth at both SS and FS
                      my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
                      <TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
                      <+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
                      <+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
                      Originally posted by Hermstheman83
                      What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

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                      • #41
                        no answers to my question Sean Taylor haters?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by remix 6 View Post
                          no answers to my question Sean Taylor haters?
                          This Joe fella prefers to just bring up one statistic (because we all know that's the be all end all when it comes to football analysis) and leave it at that. When counter-arguments are made that actually have a solid basis (you know, actually WATCHING football) he says things like "this argument is over".

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by remix 6 View Post
                            QUESTION

                            if Taylor is so bad in coverage but plays like an LB..then why are the Redskins putting him at FS..LaRon at SS closer to the line

                            Landry will be more in box while Taylor plays back. Now..did this board not go out and say Landry will be the best safety in a few years? Hes great in coverage? He is but if Taylor was as bad in coverage as u kids say..i dont see why Gregg Williams would give him coverage responsbility over Landry

                            Do they really have a choice? Don't they have to put Taylor at FS since everyone really knows that Landry is really more of a SS. Look at his highlights, youtube or whatever. The majority of his plays are blitzing the Qb, or making plays near the line of scrimmage.

                            As for Taylor, he prefers to play closer to the line as well. This is why all the draft experts and a number of fans were upset with the pick of Landry. Its like having two starting strong safeties on your team. They didnt improve their D line as well. Taylor is the FS by default. Don't let Landry's 4.35s speed straight-line-forty convince you that he has the quickness of a ballhawk. If they wanted a true ballhawk centerfielder they would have traded down and gotten Reggie Nelson or Meriweather.

                            Two teams I know for sure, were targeting Meriweather at the draft. The Patriots (the team who got him) and the Eagles (the other team who wanted him).

                            Taylor isn't a horrible coverage guy, but he did get burned a NUMBER of times last year. Their whole D sucked ass.
                            Last edited by dc4life; 05-29-2007, 08:55 PM.

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                            • #44
                              FS:
                              1. Ed Reed
                              2. Brian Dawkins
                              3. Bob Sanders
                              4. Sean Taylor
                              5. Kerry Rhodes

                              SS:
                              1. Adrian Wilson
                              2. Troy Polamalu
                              3. Mike Brown
                              4. Dawan Landry
                              5. Chris Hope

                              Baltimore: 7-4

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                              • #45
                                I would go with

                                Reed
                                Dawk
                                Polamalu
                                Roy
                                Wilson
                                Sanders
                                Harrison-when not injured most fined saftey lol

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