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  • Byron Leftwich

    He is making his first start this Sunday according to ESPN. I guess they have to try something to fix the offense.


  • #2
    If we are able to generate the same type of pressure on him that we placed on Seattle, I'd be thrilled.
    The whole world loves neophyte athletic tight end Jimmy Graham from Miami with the 95th pick. "Best pick in the draft,'' one AFC coach told me. "Give him time, and in that offense, he'll be better than [Jeremy] Shockey by the start of next year.''

    “We know that no matter the adversity, be it the lockout, be it the suspension or be it a hurricane, our men will pull together and defend the honor of this city. We’ve shown we’ve been able to do that.” - Jabari Greer

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    • #3
      this is gonna be a bad game. saints finally got rolling last wk and are carry momentum against division rival. this is gonna be a long season.

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      • #4
        Any chance you will be releasing him? because we really need a QB in AZ right now

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        • #5
          I know I'm not a Falcons fan and do not follow you guys that closely but I get the feeling that this is just a move in order to have "change for the sake of change" as I think other things are deeper problems in Atlanta. When watching Joey last Monday, it seemed to me like most of the blame for the game falls on his receivers practically not being able to catch the plague in The Black Death and a decimated line struggling to get him any worthwhile protection. Now add in Byron's slow release and slow well, everything, and it seems to be a recipe for disaster. Maybe its just me, what are the thoughts of you true Falcons fans and not that of a casual observer like me?

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          • #6
            I'm just waiting for Jaguars fans who were anti-Leftwich to jump on him like a pack of ravenous wolves. Oy.

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            • #7
              I've long gone on record as saying that I think Leftwich will never win a playoff game in his career, as a starter anyways. That was some time before Jack Del Rio won the power struggle against Shack Harris in Jacksonville, making the team a whole lot better by finally ridding the franchise of the shackles of Leftwich and giving the reins to talented quarterback David Garrard.

              Leftwich isn't the future in Atlanta, thankfully. But he's yet another concerted effort by Bobby Petrino to throw games so that the Falcons can get the franchise quarterback they want come April.
              Pugnacity, testosterone, truculence, and belligerence.

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              • #8
                I hate that you keep saying Petrino is "throwing games." It's a stupid and baseless claim. It isn't as if he needs to put any effort into making the current roster a loser. The talent just isn't there. You could put Vince Lombardi at HC, Bill Belicheck at DC, Bill Walsh at OC, and have them give it their all and you would probably only have a six win team.

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                • #9
                  That's bull, look at how he's using the players. Dunn is a great person, but he's just about washed up as a player if he's not already. Yet he's getting all of the carries instead of a (gasp) very talented youngster in Norwood. When the running game is a young/struggling offense's best method of success, even young pup Lane Kiffin oin Oakland knows that. Inexplicable.

                  The best defense against Alge Cumpler this season has been Bobby Petrino, I've never seen Crumpler so ineffective. I didn't know the Falcons even had another tight end on the roster who could catch the ball, nevermind bringing him in the game with the endzone 30 yards or so away. That's laughable.

                  Crumpler has it right when he's calling out the offensive coaching staff's decisions. Of all the possible kickers to sign, Morten Anderson? Come on, Shiver. Leftwich had no business coming into the Titans game, until Petrino realized they might actually win that game and he had to fix that. Boy did he ever.

                  And now, with an offensive line that is having difficulty protecting the quarterback, with two rookie offensive tackles, they start Leftwich who has, what, four weeks under his belt in Petrino's belt? Screw that, the Falcons are tanking the season. They aren't making it too obvious, but the damn writing is on the wall.
                  Pugnacity, testosterone, truculence, and belligerence.

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                  • #10
                    1. According to you he's intentionally using over the hill Warrick Dunn to "lose" games. However, he's already under accusations of phasing out veterans to get young players ready. Jerious Norwood is hardly ready. He sucks at pass protection, (see Giants game), and isn't built to handle a high workload. Do I think he needs to be used more? Sure, but I don't think if he was on the field more than Dunn it would have any impact on the W-L column.

                    2. Alge Crumpler is not that good of a TE. He calls out the coaching staff and proceeds to drop passes in the MNF game that killed drives. It's called leading by example Alge. Not to mention he's grossly overweight this season. He's being called Alge "Fatlanta" Crumpler right now. The only reason he put up good stats is Michael Vick was unable to throw to anyone else in the entire offense. He's always had a low catch percentage and drops way too many passes. Combine that with his weight issues that are tied in with his chronic knee injuries, Alge Crumpler has no right to blame anyone else.

                    3. Your point about the Titans game is absurd and once again shows no understanding of context. Petrino "needed to fix the game"? Are you joking? Harrington had just thrown a pick six and the Falcons were down by seven and the offense had not scored a touchdown all game. There was no indications that the offense was doing anything with Harrington, so they might as well put in Leftwich and get him some work. Only by the luck and the Titans' blunders did the team have a chance at the end. Then again working under the assumption that Joey ****** Harrington would have done anything better is absurd. I know you hate Leftwich, but come on! He is much better than Joey Harrington.

                    4. The Falcons' team is in a rebuilding stage. To insinuate that the coach has some diabolical "tanking" strategy is ridiculous. No coach in the league could win with the roster as it is currently constructed. They have rookies starting all over the roster.
                    Last edited by Shiver; 10-17-2007, 09:57 PM.

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                    • #11
                      So Petrino somehow manages to phase out every productive veteran except the unproductive one who has a superior backup (Norwood). Yeah, that sounds right.

                      I love how Alge Crumpler somehow went from the most consistent and productive Atlanta Falcons offensive player to a complete bum who shouldn't see the field. Ho boy, what a difference four freaking months make.

                      Harrington isn't a leader of men, to be brutally honest. That's why he'll likely never be successful in the league, barring an ideal situation. But nevermind how flawed Leftwich is, he had no buisiness going into that Titans game unless Harrington was injured. When a few weeks before he was sitting on his couch, he wasn't going to do any good. The Falcons defense was keeping the offense in that game, the reason the Titans got a pick six wasn't as much Harrington's fault as it was a receiver's bobble.

                      Personally, I'm not a fan of the tactic of tanking the season for the top draft pick. I know some advocate it, and heck, it helped the Colts like crazy in 1998 to have the first overall pick and draft Manning. But it just rubs me the wrong way, very much so.

                      I disliked it when the Houston Texans did it in 2005 by having their kicker Kris Brown throw games, to win the "Reggie Bush sweepstakes."
                      Last edited by Geo; 10-17-2007, 10:15 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Geo View Post
                        I disliked it when the Houston Texans did it in 2005 by having their kicker Kris Brown throw games, to win the "Mario Williams sweepstakes."
                        fixed it for ya

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Geo View Post
                          So Petrino somehow manages to phase out every productive veteran except the unproductive one who has a superior backup (Norwood). Yeah, that sounds right.
                          Alge Crumpler's words, not mine.

                          I love how Alge Crumpler somehow went from the most consistent and productive Atlanta Falcons offensive player to a complete bum who shouldn't see the field. Ho boy, what a difference four freaking months make.
                          I have been saying Alge Crumpler is overrated for a while now. He was a productive of Michael Vick's inability to read defenses and throw to anybody else. He's also had injuries recently and therefore isn't in top football shape. He has been good, but I've always laughed when I see him make people's top-5 TE rankings.

                          Harrington isn't a leader of men, to be brutally honest. That's why he'll likely never be successful in the league, barring an ideal situation. But nevermind how flawed Leftwich is, he had no buisiness going into that Titans game unless Harrington was injured. When a few weeks before he was sitting on his couch, he wasn't going to do any good. The Falcons defense was keeping the offense in that game, the reason the Titans got a pick six wasn't as much Harrington's fault as it was a receiver's bobble.
                          That's your opinion. However, the team didn't sign Leftwich to sit behind Joey Harrington. At that point it was clear Harrington wasn't doing anything, so why not get Leftwich some work? There is a big difference between that and doing it to intentionally lose.

                          Personally, I'm not a fan of the tactic of tanking the season for the top draft pick. I know some advocate it, and heck, it helped the Colts like crazy in 1998 to have the first overall pick and draft Manning. But it just rubs me the wrong way, very much so.

                          I disliked it when the Houston Texans did it in 2005 by having their kicker Kris Brown throw games, to win the "Reggie Bush sweepstakes."
                          That's funny, considering Houston didn't even draft Reggie Bush.
                          Last edited by Shiver; 10-18-2007, 01:39 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Twiddler View Post
                            I know I'm not a Falcons fan and do not follow you guys that closely but I get the feeling that this is just a move in order to have "change for the sake of change" as I think other things are deeper problems in Atlanta. When watching Joey last Monday, it seemed to me like most of the blame for the game falls on his receivers practically not being able to catch the plague in The Black Death and a decimated line struggling to get him any worthwhile protection. Now add in Byron's slow release and slow well, everything, and it seems to be a recipe for disaster. Maybe its just me, what are the thoughts of you true Falcons fans and not that of a casual observer like me?

                            Our line isn't good, but our WR have been good most of the year. A few of Joey's sacks come from him curling up under presssure and just holding onto the ball to long.

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                            • #15
                              It is totally ridiculous to suggest that our coach is tanking the season to get the QB he wants. Shiver, I admire your attempt to reason with him, but sometimes you just have to let it go.

                              I'm not that hopeful about the change. What we need is someone to get rid of it quickly. That's never exactly been Byron's modus operandi. But Harrington wasn't getting it done, so why not give Byron a chance? We shall see what results. At least the first defense he'll face is not exactly the steel curtain...
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