Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Official 2009 NFL Draft Thread

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • ATLDirtyBirds
    started a topic Official 2009 NFL Draft Thread

    Official 2009 NFL Draft Thread

    Make this one official to talk about the selections, and not the process leading up to it.


    24-DT Peria Jerry
    Last edited by ATLDirtyBirds; 04-25-2009, 07:05 PM.

  • scar988
    replied
    Prodigy, it's not that simple. the one thing I know extremely well is defensive schemes, and we just don't have the personnel to run a base 3-4.

    Leave a comment:


  • pr0d1gy
    replied
    Originally posted by scar988 View Post
    Moorehead is a 4-3 UT and he was cut. at 999 he would never be able to play in the 4-3 NT spot.

    Sidbury can't play in Zone either.

    Anderson is only 282. not really big enough for the 3-4.

    Abe would be horrible in the 3-4 as well since he can't cover. the guys you listed are all career 3-4 OLB's.
    Cut, wasn't he slated to be the opening day starter? WTF! lol

    Those guys I listed never cover anyone, well almost never. They're all just DE's with different labels. Anderson could put on a few pounds without any problem, if need be. Oh, and anyone can play a zone, you just drop into your zone and cover anyone that comes through it until they leave it....it's pretty simple.

    Leave a comment:


  • scar988
    replied
    Moorehead is a 4-3 UT and he was cut. at 999 he would never be able to play in the 4-3 NT spot.

    Sidbury can't play in Zone either.

    Anderson is only 282. not really big enough for the 3-4.

    Abe would be horrible in the 3-4 as well since he can't cover. the guys you listed are all career 3-4 OLB's.

    Leave a comment:


  • pr0d1gy
    replied
    Originally posted by scar988 View Post
    no we haven't been drafting 3-4 guys.

    Lofton = 4-3 MLB primarily with ability to play 3-4 TED
    James = 4-3 exclusive WLB
    Biermann = 4-3 DE/3-4 OLB
    Jerry = 4-3 exclusive NT/UT
    Sidbury = 4-3 exclusive DE (can't cover)
    Walker = 4-3 Exclusive NT/UT

    We won't run a 3-4. Mike Smith doesn't run the 3-4. We will never move to a full 3-4 as long as Smitty is here. he's a born and raised 4-3 guy and loves the idea of 2 DT's, not one.

    You were always fun to argue with....lol

    Anderson - Richard Seymour size & athleticism, ideal for a long term 3-4 RDE solution.

    Lofton - great size and lack of ideal speed make him a perfect fit at 3-4 MLB, especially as he matures physically.

    Sidbury - ideal speed and lack of size makes him a perfect 3-4 pass rushing OLB, and anyone can drop into a zone coverage....just don't risk putting him on an island.

    Babs - great fit as a 3-4 LDE or, obviously, 4-3 UT.

    Abe - would benefit from 3-4 OLB transition as he gets older....plus it would free him up to make more plays (see Harrison, Ware, Porter, et al).

    Lewis & Moorehead - could rotate at either 4-3 or 3-4 NT.

    I really think if either of those guys could step up at 3-4 NT then we could have a nasty front 7 to our D...but I guess we already do, sort of, so it might not change anytime soon.

    Leave a comment:


  • scar988
    replied
    Originally posted by pr0d1gy View Post
    Which kind of goes to my point, we've been drafting 3-4 guys the last couple/few years. I could see us running it a lot more than you would expect this year, but I doubt we change to it for another year or two. It will benefit Abe to get him into a pass rush OLB position as he gets older.

    Obviously, not having a NT will prevent us from going that way full time unless Lewis really shows out this year, but I'm not as sold on him as some others are.
    no we haven't been drafting 3-4 guys.

    Lofton = 4-3 MLB primarily with ability to play 3-4 TED
    James = 4-3 exclusive WLB
    Biermann = 4-3 DE/3-4 OLB
    Jerry = 4-3 exclusive NT/UT
    Sidbury = 4-3 exclusive DE (can't cover)
    Walker = 4-3 Exclusive NT/UT

    We won't run a 3-4. Mike Smith doesn't run the 3-4. We will never move to a full 3-4 as long as Smitty is here. he's a born and raised 4-3 guy and loves the idea of 2 DT's, not one.

    Leave a comment:


  • pr0d1gy
    replied
    Originally posted by scar988 View Post
    we're not heading towards a 3-4. we don't have the ability to make the switch. non of our guys really fit the 3-4 well outside of Lofton and Anderson
    Which kind of goes to my point, we've been drafting 3-4 guys the last couple/few years. I could see us running it a lot more than you would expect this year, but I doubt we change to it for another year or two. It will benefit Abe to get him into a pass rush OLB position as he gets older.

    Obviously, not having a NT will prevent us from going that way full time unless Lewis really shows out this year, but I'm not as sold on him as some others are.

    Leave a comment:


  • scar988
    replied
    we're not heading towards a 3-4. we don't have the ability to make the switch. non of our guys really fit the 3-4 well outside of Lofton and Anderson

    Leave a comment:


  • pr0d1gy
    replied
    Originally posted by scar988 View Post
    like I detailed earlier, we have some personnel for that scheme.
    Positions guys owuld play in the 3-4 IMO:

    3-4 DE:
    Babineaux
    Jerry
    Anderson

    3-4 NT:
    Lewis
    Walker (would have to bulk up a bit)

    3-4 OLB:
    Abraham
    Sidbury
    Biermann

    3-4 Mike:
    Nicholas
    Adkins

    3-4 Ted:
    Lofton
    Gilbert

    The Mike is the roving LB, the Ted is the Pounding LB.

    guys that don't fit the 3-4 on our roster BTW:
    Davis
    Jefferson
    Wire
    Peterson
    James

    Yeah I have been saying we're heading towards a 3-4 for awhile now, just not around here. Jammal Anderson would be a good 3-4 DE, too. Sidbury & Abe coming off the edge, could be really nice.

    Leave a comment:


  • scar988
    replied
    Originally posted by pr0d1gy View Post
    Well, we're all extremely worried about our run D since Grady is gone. If we did have a good 3-4 NT and another good 3-4 MLB, it is already basically setup for that scheme.
    like I detailed earlier, we have some personnel for that scheme.
    Positions guys owuld play in the 3-4 IMO:

    3-4 DE:
    Babineaux
    Jerry
    Anderson

    3-4 NT:
    Lewis
    Walker (would have to bulk up a bit)

    3-4 OLB:
    Abraham
    Sidbury
    Biermann

    3-4 Mike:
    Nicholas
    Adkins

    3-4 Ted:
    Lofton
    Gilbert

    The Mike is the roving LB, the Ted is the Pounding LB.

    guys that don't fit the 3-4 on our roster BTW:
    Davis
    Jefferson
    Wire
    Peterson
    James

    Leave a comment:


  • scar988
    replied
    um, what? we will not be a big 3-4. maybe 5-8 snaps a game out of the look, which will probably feature this allignment:
    LE - Jerry - 6'2" 299
    NT - Lewis - 6'3" 320
    RE - Anderson - 6'6" 282
    WOLB - Abraham - 6'4" 266
    WILB - Nicholas - 6'3" 232
    SILB - Lofton - 6'0" 248
    SOLB - Sidbury - 6'2" 266

    that actually looks kind of solid tbh. still, we would need to bring in a big fatty for the NT spot, and I just don't see us doing it, that said, 3rd down when we run our 3-3-5 I expect to see this look:

    LE - Sidbury
    NT - Babineaux or Jerry
    RE - Abraham
    WLB - Nicholas
    MLB - Lofton
    SLB - Peterson

    Leave a comment:


  • pr0d1gy
    replied
    Originally posted by D-Rod View Post
    Well, yes, but we're very limited in what we can do by the absence of a true 3-4 NT. Lewis can probably play the role on occasion, and you could even have Jerry in there on 3rd and 8, but we're pretty situtationally limited by our lack of a NT whenever there is any running threat.

    However, on occasion, it could be deadly. Abraham and Sidbury/Nicholas/Biermann off the edge, plus Anderson, Babs and Jerry, with a Lofton blitz, would be pretty scary on 3rd and long.
    Well, we're all extremely worried about our run D since Grady is gone. If we did have a good 3-4 NT and another good 3-4 MLB, it is already basically setup for that scheme.

    Leave a comment:


  • D-Rod
    replied
    Originally posted by pr0d1gy View Post
    Which is what I have been saying we will do for 2 years now on various message boards. It fits our players better. Abe is a 3-4 OLB and having to play a down end is hurting his production, see Harrison & Ware. Lofton was very good at 4-3 MLB but would be ideal as a 3-4 run stuffer. Jammal is a 3-4 DE considering his lack of ideal explosion around the corner, etc etc etc. I've seen this coming for awhile.
    Well, yes, but we're very limited in what we can do by the absence of a true 3-4 NT. Lewis can probably play the role on occasion, and you could even have Jerry in there on 3rd and 8, but we're pretty situtationally limited by our lack of a NT whenever there is any running threat.

    However, on occasion, it could be deadly. Abraham and Sidbury/Nicholas/Biermann off the edge, plus Anderson, Babs and Jerry, with a Lofton blitz, would be pretty scary on 3rd and long.

    Leave a comment:


  • pr0d1gy
    replied
    Originally posted by ATLDirtyBirds View Post
    We are going to play some more 3-4. Certainly not a full-time thing however.
    Which is what I have been saying we will do for 2 years now on various message boards. It fits our players better. Abe is a 3-4 OLB and having to play a down end is hurting his production, see Harrison & Ware. Lofton was very good at 4-3 MLB but would be ideal as a 3-4 run stuffer. Jammal is a 3-4 DE considering his lack of ideal explosion around the corner, etc etc etc. I've seen this coming for awhile.

    Leave a comment:


  • ATLDirtyBirds
    replied
    Originally posted by pr0d1gy View Post
    QUOTED FROM THE LINK GIVEN:

    Maurice Lucas, DE, Colorado

    HT: 6-4
    WT: 265

    Scott Eklund's Take: With his size and underrated speed (4.8), Lucas is a candidate to play as a standup pass-rusher in Atlanta's new 3-4 scheme. He totaled 107 tackles and only four sacks, but that had more to do with how he was used at Colorado and doesn't really speed to his athleticism. At times he disappeared from sight during games, but when he was in the flow he made plays. I had Lucas rated as a late-round selection just because of his athleticism, so the Falcons could have gotten themselves a real gem if they can find a place for

    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Wow, did I call that one or what?

    We are going to play some more 3-4. Certainly not a full-time thing however.

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X

Debug Information