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  • 2010 Falcons Draft Discussion

    There is a whole year left until this draft, but like we all know it's never too early to discuss this stuff. The 2010 draft will be 10x better than this one IMO.

    Let take a look at some potential needs:

    C
    TE
    OLB

    I might be missing some but as of right now that's all I got. Center ro replace McClure, TE to replace/backup Tony Gonzalez. OLB to replace Peterson.
    28
    CB
    53.57%
    15
    NT
    10.71%
    3
    OLB
    17.86%
    5
    O-line
    3.57%
    1
    Other
    14.29%
    4

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  • #2
    how about adding a right tackle so we can move clabo to right guard, a three down defensive end, a nose tackle and a starting cornerback.

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    • #3
      I think by the seasons end, DE might be a huge need. I am not doubting Sidbury, but Abraham is getting old as well.

      As the season goes on, we could be looking at S during the draft to replace Coleman.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by d34ng3l021 View Post
        I think by the seasons end, DE might be a huge need. I am not doubting Sidbury, but Abraham is getting old as well.

        As the season goes on, we could be looking at S during the draft to replace Coleman.
        i love coleman, i expect him to have a big year

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kiranadwaney View Post
          how about adding a right tackle so we can move clabo to right guard, a three down defensive end, a nose tackle and a starting cornerback.
          I like o-line now as it is. I doubt the front office will change anything there, they love dahl at RG and clabo at RT just because they are two guys with a mean streak that just play like animals out there. You ask for a 3 down defensive end but right now we have kroy biermann and lawrence sidbury at those two spots. I didn't put nose tackle and CB on there because we drafted two of each this year. They might not fit as well but we spent high picks on them (jerry and owens). We already have a lot of d-linemen batting for a spot right now. As of CB, there are at least 7 guys who are battling for a spot and only chris houston is secured. Im pretty sure we can find a nice #2 corner and a great nickle/dime. Von Hutchins, Chevis Jackson, Chris Owens are all good possibilities for these spots. We also have David Irons, Brent Grimes, and William Middleton.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by d34ng3l021 View Post
            I think by the seasons end, DE might be a huge need. I am not doubting Sidbury, but Abraham is getting old as well.

            As the season goes on, we could be looking at S during the draft to replace Coleman.
            You never know about DE, there are 4 decent DE's that we are undecided about right now. Jamaal Anderson, Sidbury, Davis, Biermann. They can all give you something, whether it's run stopping or pass rushing. They are pretty young and in the mist of all the competition someone will have to jump out. As of right now Im praying Jamaal improves a little more drastically then he did from his 1st to 2nd year.
            Im not too worried about John Abraham's age right now. He's 30 years old but he's producing better than ever and you can say there's about 4 maybe 5 more years left in him. If he starts slacking at any point of time, i expect one of the young DE's that is looking the best to take his spot.

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            • #7
              Defensive end is still a huge need. Jamaal Anderson is horrible, and Biermann and Sidbury are just pass rushers at this point. If we are lucky one will be good enough to replace Abraham when he gos down hill. That means there is still a huge hole at left defensive end.
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              • #8
                As of right now we defenetly know we need C, OLB, TE to replace the older starters at those positions. DE is not one of those positions that we know for sure, Jamaal Anderson has another shot to prove himself worthy of starting, and biermann/sidbury have something to compete for. They are young players. If JA98 actually starts to have a productive year, we might as well just skip DE and assume Sidbury or Biermann will be the situational guys and ultimatly replacement for ABE.
                If McClure, Tony G, or Peterson have productive years next year, we know we still will need C, TE, and OLB, because of their age. As of right now you can't tell me we'll go DE in the first round for sure. But for the other 3 positions you can say.

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                • #9
                  Maybe we take one of the 3 big safeties coming out next year? Mays, Wright, or Berry?? If not I'd like to see us either address our LB woes or possibly the O-Line. (I just have a feeling the O-Line can't repeat our '08 regular season success)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bosanac01 View Post
                    As of right now we defenetly know we need C, OLB, TE to replace the older starters at those positions. DE is not one of those positions that we know for sure, Jamaal Anderson has another shot to prove himself worthy of starting, and biermann/sidbury have something to compete for. They are young players. If JA98 actually starts to have a productive year, we might as well just skip DE and assume Sidbury or Biermann will be the situational guys and ultimatly replacement for ABE.
                    If McClure, Tony G, or Peterson have productive years next year, we know we still will need C, TE, and OLB, because of their age. As of right now you can't tell me we'll go DE in the first round for sure. But for the other 3 positions you can say.
                    No.

                    The three positions you named are all extremely easy positions to find players at. I could see outside linebacker, we value the position. Tight end won't be our top pick next year, that would be an idiotic move, and center is always unlikely.

                    You are delusional if you think Anderson is going to all of the sudden become a player. He hasn't even shown flashes.

                    Biermann was manhandled in the run game last season, Sidbury right now is a pure pass rusher. Of the two only Sidbury has starting potential, Biermann is too small. And banking on a fourth round pick starting is not a smart thing to do.

                    Chauncey is a good rotational defensive end, not a starter.

                    If Abraham gos down the defense is still in a world of trouble.

                    Defensive end is still a huge need.

                    Also, I wouldn't doubt cornerback if the proper value is available. Owens and Jackson are good, but considering that the ATL was looking at Darius Butler they still may be in the market for a top corner.

                    And that last sentence made zero sense.
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                    • #11
                      The point I made was basically you must fill some positions in the near future, but for others you have young players in place that can prove themselves worthy of a starting spot for a long time.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bosanac01 View Post
                        The point I made was basically you must fill some positions in the near future, but for others you have young players in place that can prove themselves worthy of a starting spot for a long time.
                        And neither TE nor C will need players to step in immediately. Center maybe, but that's generally not a round one pick unless the top one is available. Tight end isn't a round one pick with Tony Gonzalez just being traded for.

                        Left end has no servicable starter. Anderson is a bust. Davis is a good rotational player. Sidbury and Biermann are not fit for the position, and even if we like an undersized line (and if one of them is good enough), Abraham will need a successor in time as well.

                        Left end has no true starter and no young players who can prove themselves worthy of starting there.
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                        • #13
                          The one thing you all need to grasp is that you cannot look at the line by individual positions, be it O or D. Both lines are a cohesive unit and each player along that line must execute in order for the other guys to make plays. Moving pieces around and bringing in new ones, after the pieces we have got us to the playoffs, is entirely self defeating.

                          Now I am bad with names but that guy we brought in to play RG last year for the injured Forney quickly became the strong arm of that O line. He did very well against all but the VERY BEST and most talented DT's in both the run and pass game. Removing that guy for someone "more talented" would be akin to shooting yourself in the foot, which is what most teams do. Consistency on your offensive line is key to retaining your offensive potency. In the last few years several teams have lost key O linemen to FA only to watch their O go into the tank for at least a year or two, comparitively speaking of course.

                          Case in point, the Seattle Seahawks after losing Hutchinson basically have gone to complete crap. Alexander never broke a thousand yards again. The Steelers win the Super Bowl, let Faneca go, and have a tough year before working their way back up. I know this is a bit long winded but the one thing you always want is consistency on your O line and effort from your D line.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pr0d1gy View Post
                            The one thing you all need to grasp is that you cannot look at the line by individual positions, be it O or D. Both lines are a cohesive unit and each player along that line must execute in order for the other guys to make plays. Moving pieces around and bringing in new ones, after the pieces we have got us to the playoffs, is entirely self defeating.

                            Now I am bad with names but that guy we brought in to play RG last year for the injured Forney quickly became the strong arm of that O line. He did very well against all but the VERY BEST and most talented DT's in both the run and pass game. Removing that guy for someone "more talented" would be akin to shooting yourself in the foot, which is what most teams do. Consistency on your offensive line is key to retaining your offensive potency. In the last few years several teams have lost key O linemen to FA only to watch their O go into the tank for at least a year or two, comparitively speaking of course.

                            Case in point, the Seattle Seahawks after losing Hutchinson basically have gone to complete crap. Alexander never broke a thousand yards again. The Steelers win the Super Bowl, let Faneca go, and have a tough year before working their way back up. I know this is a bit long winded but the one thing you always want is consistency on your O line and effort from your D line.
                            Harvey Dahl, the right guard you spoke of, was not the strong arm of the offensive line last season. His pass protection wasn't great and he fouled too often.
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                            • #15
                              Harvey Dahl played very good for us last year. The key to a good o-line is chemistry and you get that by keeping the same unit out there, they did very well in their first year together.

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