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  • #16
    Insight that only Mel Kiper Jr. could provide....

    Alright, now that I've thought about it. I could see the team trading up, I really could. But they won't throw the kitchen sink at Detroit, for Calvin Johnson. I do think they could make a play for Laron Landry or Joe Thomas, though. At a much more reasonable price point. That's my take.

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    • #17
      If Arizona do really decide that they prefer Brown to Thomas, then I could see us swapping picks with them to grab Thomas. On the other hand, if they prefer Brown, perhaps we do too. Very much the eye of the beholder.

      As to CJ, I really don't want to give up that much for him. Getting impact players in the 3rd and 4th is far too speculative a gamble. This team needs numerous good young players, not just one more star. Would Calvin improve our team? Yes. But I don't think he would improve it more than a franchise LT, not to mention the numerous other first day picks.

      Look at the closest parallels to CJ in recent years, Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson. Both are great receivers, who will be perennial pro-bowlers. Both put up great numbers. But both are prevented from winning games for their team, due to poor O-lines (and shoddy defences).

      I don't think we should trade up with WAS either. If Landry is there at #8, great. If not, then Okoye, Brown or Peterson will be. It could actually be argued, for various reasons, that any of those could be a better pick than Landry. Regardless, there is no reason to waste a 1st day pick moving up, when we can sit at 8 and get just as good a player.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Shiver View Post
        Insight that only Mel Kiper Jr. could provide....

        Alright, now that I've thought about it. I could see the team trading up, I really could. But they won't throw the kitchen sink at Detroit, for Calvin Johnson. I do think they could make a play for Laron Landry or Joe Thomas, though. At a much more reasonable price point. That's my take.
        I could absolutely see the Falcons trading up with Washington to move ahead of Minnesota, ensuring themselves Laron Landry. If PFW's report that members of the Cardinals coaching staff (Russ Grimm included I believe) prefer Levi Brown over Joe Thomas is actually true, then that's going to make things interesting as they might be willing to trade down a few spots and allow a team like the Falcons or the Dolphins the chance to draft Joe Thomas.
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        • #19
          I agree with staying at 8, because there are going to be great players available at 8, and possbly we could fill another need there, like DT, LT, or RB, and pick a safety in the second, since safeties nearly always end up dropping in the draft for one reason or another.

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          • #20
            I've been talking about this quite a lot recently - mainly because I'm excited about the prospect of finally having a franchise LT - but it would actually make sense for Grimm and Whiz to prefer Levi over Thomas. He's much more of a Steeler-type roadgrader, and his technical imperfections would be overcome by one of the best O-line coaches in the business.

            But here's a thought: if Whiz/Grimm's power offense prefers Brown over Thomas, could Petrino also prefer Brown? This could get interesting...
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            • #21
              Yeah, that's true D-Rod we want a road grader system implemented. But I think Thomas is the supreme LT in this draft and would be a HUGE HUGE HUGE pickup for us.

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              • #22
                Levi Brown is interesting. Some people have him as a top-10 grade, and love him. While others have him in the twenties. With our scheme transition, I wouldn't discount he is the player the team is targeting, while sending out smoke screens about how enamored they are with trading up for Calvin Johnson, or taking Laron Landry.

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                • #23
                  I agree with you again Shiv, but I think Willis is in consideration as well, but then again, they said Brooking looked good in the Middle, and I think he can have a great impact there.

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                  • #24
                    I'd be amazed if Willis chat was any more than a smokescreen. I've explained why before...

                    As for Brown, I think it is interesting that there has been absolutely no mention of him whatsoever. In fact, the only time McKay was asked about Brown on Sirius, he totally dodged the question. There's also been little chat about Thomas. Yet it is clear that we need an LT...However, if we think we can spot a smokescreen, then so can NFL GMs, so perhaps it is a double bluff.

                    There's little way to tell, but generally I agree Shiver, I think that we would rate Brown more highly than a lot of other teams, simply as an emphatic shift to a new power system. We shall see. Just five days to go now...
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