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  • Mel Kiper expects Atlanta to trade up;

    Trading up an option for Falcons

    By D. ORLANDO LEDBETTER
    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
    Published on: 04/20/07

    With the NFL draft eight days away, ESPN analyst Mel Kiper Jr. expects the Falcons to be movers and shakers in the early portion of the draft.

    The Falcons hold the eighth pick after moving up two spots in the Matt Schaub trade with Houston.

    "The Atlanta Falcons have an option," Kiper said. "They are eighth. Do they move up to No. 2 to try to get Calvin Johnson? If Atlanta could get him, it would be one of the coups of the draft."

    Kiper believes Johnson, a wide receiver he has rated as the top player in the draft, would help quarterback Michael Vick and the Falcons' offense.

    "Michael Vick on third down, he's errant with his throws or he has throws dropped," Kiper said. "Either way, it's a drive-killer. ... If they had Calvin Johnson, a big target with the hands and the skill level, all of sudden that would help out that offense dramatically for [coach] Bobby Petrino."

    The problem is that Johnson could go No. 1 to Oakland. If not, Tampa Bay, which has the fourth pick, might move up to No. 2 to get Johnson.

    "If the Falcons stay put at No. 8, LSU safety LaRon Landry may not be available," Kiper said. "You know for a fact that the Washington Redskins want out of [the No. 6 pick]. They want to trade out of there. ... They have no second-, third- or fourth-round picks. They want to try to recoup choices. If you're Atlanta, you can possibly go from eight to six and guarantee the acquisition of LaRon Landry."

    If the Falcons don't move up, they still have a viable option.

    "If you're stuck at eight and Landry is gone, then you maybe look at the left tackle from Penn State, Levi Brown," Kiper said.
    Interesting.


  • #2
    Yeah, we definitely could do it, and to be honest I don't know what I want anymore, I just want this franchise to turn around and get out of this never winning back to back seasons ya know? I'm tired of wishy washy, and even if it is another 7-9 season that's fine, as long as we see good progress as the season goes on...if we start out slow I can understand that, but I want to finish really strong and feel good going into next off season instead of like this one feeling like we have countless holes to fill.

    I know we all want the quick fix with multi picks and that could be great, but getting CJ could be great as well...It's not going to be an over night transition and if that means we take 2 years to get there that's fine, as long as we have the players to build around. If our coaching staff feels that CJ is going to help us, and we will still be able to address other issues that plague this team that's fine, but I don't want to be stuck in this forever.

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    • #3
      It doesn't actually say that Kiper expects them to move up, just that it is an option. Which it clearly is. Like most things in life, it will depend on the price. Frankly, I'd back McKay in a negotiation against Millen. On the other hand, another buyer (eg. TB) would change the trade dynamic altogether. Only a week to wait...
      TD 2011 catch-phrase: "explosive"

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      • #4
        Technically speaking; Atlanta has more ammunition than just about anybody. The only problem is the Buccaneers have more. I have a feeling this could come down to a intra-division bidding war, where neither side wants the other rival to get Calvin Johnson.

        Imagine if Atlanta ends up trading #8, #39, #44, and Houston's '08 2nd round pick, to get Calvin Johnson. That would be tantamount to trading Matt Schaub, and a 2nd round pick, to get up for Calvin Johnson. I don't think that's all that bad, once I thought about it. To get the composite top graded player in the past ten, or more, years. Then the team would still have a 3rd round pick, and three 4th round draft picks. Which could be used to add role players and depth.
        Last edited by Shiver; 04-20-2007, 03:38 PM.

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        • #5
          Yeah, I agree again Shiver, that's what I was trying to argue on AFMB. But I see both sides of the argument. Having to give out 2 2nd round picks (which in this draft I feel like has more value than most years) plus giving up one of our 2nds next year, I dunno, I REALLY want CJ, but this team is so far away from a championship I am not sure if he can fix us, although I am certain he would sustain more drives on offense thus making our defense better. I really just don't know, but I am VERY excited about this year's draft, last year I just kinda knew going into it we would come out with not a lot to show. We got Jimmy who didn't play, and Norwood who got the shaft on playtime.

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          • #6
            The key would be the nail the 4th round picks. If you add decent role players at DE, RB, DB, and a solid O-Tackle at #75, along with Calvin Johnson, then that would be great.

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            • #7
              Yeah, I really think that in the 4th / 5th rounds Brandon Frye is going to be an incredible LT in the NFL. He's my top choice behind Joe Thomas and Joe Staley...

              The things I would hate to miss out on are on the Safetys...Aaron Rouse...Reggie Nelson...Eric Weddle etc. So if we could get one of them @ 75 then I think with the 3 4ths we could land Brandon Frye...a DE...and a RB (Michael Bush hopefully)

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              • #8
                I think the Falcons are making a mistake if they trade up and get Calvin Johnson.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shiver View Post

                  Imagine if Atlanta ends up trading #8, #39, #44, and Houston's '08 2nd round pick, to get Calvin Johnson. That would be tantamount to trading Matt Schaub, and a 2nd round pick, to get up for Calvin Johnson.
                  I've heard this logic a few times, and I don't buy into it. Trading all of that would actually be like using a high first, 2 high seconds, and a second next year for a WR. I don't think any GM in their right mind would trade 4 potential impact starters for 1 WR. This trade would cost ATL wins.

                  Just because ATL fleeced Houston for Schaub doesn't mean they should let DET fleece them even worse.

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                  • #10
                    If we trade up, I want it to be for Laron Landry. Something similar to my deal in the forum mock, i.e the 3rd round pick to move up to Washington's 6th spot.
                    Last edited by Shiver; 04-20-2007, 11:50 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MP123 View Post
                      I think the Falcons are making a mistake if they trade up and get Calvin Johnson.
                      shh. quiet

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                      • #12
                        I really think Landry will be there at 8, it's all just BS trying to get us to waste picks. Landry will be there at eight, and if he's not, then we're fine anyway, because he's not the FS we need on this team for coverage. He would be a great enforcer to take over for Milloy though.

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                        • #13
                          "Kiper believes Johnson, a wide receiver he has rated as the top player in the draft, would help quarterback Michael Vick and the Falcons' offense."

                          Excellent work Melvin. Probably took a long time to get to that conclusion. Not a Falcons fan, and 2 2nd rounders is big, but it just depends if you think CJ can take you to the next level. If the Falcons think he is a slam dunk then you go for it.

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                          • #14
                            Hopefully we could keep one of the 2nd rounders, and come out of the draft with CJ, Ben Grubbs/Brandon Meriweather and Michael Bush. I would love that.

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                            • #15
                              Kiper believes Johnson, a wide receiver he has rated as the top player in the draft, would help quarterback Michael Vick and the Falcons' offense.
                              that's inside info right there

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