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  • #16
    Originally posted by BmoreBlackByrdz View Post
    Where did you hear that Arrelious Benn has a poor work ethic and attitude?

    And I really doubt Boldin is worth a 2nd round pick. I think the Cards are looking for a 3rd and maybe a player for him. I know he's a great player, but the problem is he is never healthy.

    And how is Brandon LaFell similar to Berrian? Lafell is 6-3 205 and Berrian is 6-1 185. Both have totally different playing styles.
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    Are you kidding me? Do you honestly think the Cardinals would trade a 3X pro bowl selection for a 3rd Round pick? You ALWAYS have to wonder the accountability with PFT. Sure he's injury prone, but you can't match the production with a 3rd-4th Round pick. Their are very few sources I trust or even believe and PFT is not one of them.

    And I totally didn't mean to say Bernard Berrian...I don't know why I wrote that...I was watching higlhlights of Ryan Matthews and I coveted Berrian heavily when he came out of Fresno State as he was one of the best play makers ever to come out of that school.

    Anyway, the easy comparison is Dwayne Bowe as they both have the big frame and natural strength to beat the jam. Both went to LSU and Bowe has been one of the few bright spots coming out of the 2007 NFL Draft.

    As for Benn, I have watched a ton of film on his past junior season and some games he simply gave up on balls and routes. He was a good player when he wants to be, but even when the balls got their he has some of the worst hands you will EVER see. Does anybody want a kid like this? You can blame his poor QB's all you want the balls got to him and he simply dropped them. Not a fan at all.

    BTW: You guys ready for the WR drills tommoro or what!?!

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    • #17
      What do you guys think of my three round mock draft? Rounds 4-7 Coming Soon!

      25th overall, 1st Round- Kyle Wilson CB Boise State- Such great instincts and smart guy. Was by far the best CB during the senior bowl. He was doing so well closing in and reading the flat footed quarterbacks. Such good cover skills. And we all know how much we have missed CMAC.

      57th overall, 2nd Round- Mardy Gilyard WR Cincinatti- Love his explosive play making ability. He's raw coming out of that spread system that's beneficial towards speedy lean guys. But, Gilyard is an exception as he has the speed to get vertical and is a guy we will all love. I think he's a special player.

      89th overall, 3rd round- Tyson Alualu DE Cal- A steal at the end of round three. A natural 5 technique defensive end for the Bears as he played as a 3-4 end there.

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      • #18
        Looks like Benn is choking at the combine he ran a 4.48 and seemed to run poor routes and drop passes, why would we want him at #25??

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        • #19
          Originally posted by ChefMike View Post
          Looks like Benn is choking at the combine he ran a 4.48 and seemed to run poor routes and drop passes, why would we want him at #25??
          Because the combine isn't a great indicator of talent?

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          • #20



            That last highlight is just unfair.

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            • #21
              ^^^^^^
              Overrated.

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              • #22
                Let's not forget that he had awful QB play and 2 different offenses in college but he still produced. How is he overrated?

                and was anyone shocked when Golden Tate ran a 4.3 ?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BmoreBlackByrdz View Post
                  Let's not forget that he had awful QB play and 2 different offenses in college but he still produced. How is he overrated?

                  and was anyone shocked when Golden Tate ran a 4.3 ?
                  Actually, the official time was 4.42? But yet, I was shocked when he ran that fast. He didn't show that speed in college, but he has it. I'm most certainly going to go back and watch some more film of him.

                  As for Benn I simply don't like the guy. He dissapeared some games and in other games looked unstoppable. You can blame the poor QB play all you want, but I have watched a ton of film on the guy and he dropped so many passes that would have helped his QB rather then make them work worse then they really were.

                  My top 5 WR's.
                  1. Dez Bryant
                  2. Brandon Lafell
                  3. MardyGilyard
                  4. Damien Williams
                  5. Jordan Shipley

                  Tate could enter once I dwelve into some more film. Huge draft "guru" here.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by coordinator0 View Post
                    Because the combine isn't a great indicator of talent?
                    Granted the combine isn't the true indicator of how he is going to play in games but his play in games was no better than an average WR.

                    I would like to see though that he step up in these type of situations so it doesn't put doubt in your mind.

                    Workout warriors are good for the combine but not for games, but when he can't track down a fly pattern lob pass from an average college passer how can I expect him to beat a CB in Man coverage then catch a pass from Flacco who is arguably one of the best deep ball throwers?

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                    • #25
                      As for Golden Tate, I see him panning out like a Lav Coles at best...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ChefMike View Post
                        Granted the combine isn't the true indicator of how he is going to play in games but his play in games was no better than an average WR.

                        I would like to see though that he step up in these type of situations so it doesn't put doubt in your mind.

                        Workout warriors are good for the combine but not for games, but when he can't track down a fly pattern lob pass from an average college passer how can I expect him to beat a CB in Man coverage then catch a pass from Flacco who is arguably one of the best deep ball throwers?
                        The combine QBs are horrid. They either overthrew receivers or underthrew them. Benn would be a beast in your system.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by HinesWardJr View Post
                          The combine QBs are horrid. They either overthrew receivers or underthrew them. Benn would be a beast in your system.
                          I don't see a guy like him being a beast in our system, His routes aren't polished but his in game speed is above average which is a bonus. Would just rather see someone like a TO or a Marshall or Boldin come in to complement Mason and Stallworth while the rookie grooms under them for a season rather then a rookie be the goto guy. Do you think that Holmes would be as good as he is without Ward there?

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                          • #28
                            TO would be good as well. I don't see the Ravens giving up the pieces to land Marshall. I think Q is attainable as well.

                            Yes I do believe Holmes will be as good. He's already the number 1 reciever and get's the most attention of number 1 corners in the league. He really came on in the 2008 playoffs and last season.

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                            • #29
                              I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding the question or the answer, but I think ChefMike was asking do you think that Holmes would be as good as he is now without Ward being there to groom him in the past.

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                              • #30
                                I answered the question with my first sentence. Yes I do believe so.

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